<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:00:27
!startmeeting RELENG (2025-02-03)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:33
Meeting started at 2025-02-03 17:00:27 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:33
The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2025-02-03)'
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:00:41
hello hello!
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:00:42
!info Agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:00:42
!meetingname releng
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:00:42
!chair nirik jnsamyak patrikp amedvede
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:00:42
!info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stops.
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
17:00:43
The Meeting Name is now releng
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:00:55
Hi. 👋
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:04:10
Let's start/
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:04:17
!topic Init process.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:04:17
Do we have anything for the init? Any blockers/tasks/issues/requests/features that need releng intervention?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:04:21
Let's start?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:05:00
morning.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:05:17
Okay I have one thing for this floor
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:05:55
So this request came in today: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/509
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:06:30
Need to analyse tomorrow about the effect of this on the mass branching
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:06:40
and all the moving changes that will come along with this
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:07:04
But wanted to discuss if this is a quick fix/branching blocking etc;
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:08:02
should just be a small change in fedora-release right?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:08:20
yes that's what I am thinking
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:09:32
I have one quick thing. Kevin could you please add me to `fedora-pm` group in Bugzilla?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:09:32
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/release_guide/sop_mass_branching/#_create_bugzilla_component
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:10:08
I can yeah... will have to go find the process...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:10:31
as a side note I have a task to clean up that group. There's a lot of people who aren't around anymore still in it.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:10:56
Do we have a criteria for adding people to the fedora-pm group btw?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:11:11
What does pm mean in this context again?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:11:28
Once we are done discussing this, I have one more thing for the init
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:11:33
product manager I think?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:11:59
no, I don't know if there's a critera. Should there be one? I'm happy to have one...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:12:26
it gives you basically full power over the fedora bugzilla components... so it's pretty powerfull.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:12:50
It's completely fine if you do that step instead and I don't need to be in it, it should only take a couple of minutes.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:13:15
sure, can do that too. or jnsamyak can... ?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:13:21
and yeah, it's just a few clicks
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:13:36
Yeah I can last time you added me I guess
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:13:42
but I can verify it
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:13:54
and do it, and show you as well patrikp if you like
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:13:56
Alright, go ahead with the other item.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:14:19
Okay so in the afternoon I checked, there was 157 packages that were still unsigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:14:30
from the f43 key;
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:15:20
yeah, we need to circle back and sign those...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:15:24
So re ran the signing queue for those packages, and closed it off; Just now on checking I found they were reporting errors (memory out of order) - it because dumb be forgot to strip .rpm from those
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:15:38
so I did strip them, and have re-reun it
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:15:52
so rest of the packages are in the queue
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:16:26
This is what I wanted to bring up
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:16:33
rest saving for another section
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:16:45
Alright, if that's all, moving on...
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:16:50
!link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-42/f-42-releng-tasks.html
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:16:50
!info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are due to be done in the next week.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:16:50
!link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-releng-tasks.html
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:16:50
!topic Scheduled actions coming up in the next week.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:16:56
Mass branching week!
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:17:31
cool. If there's some we missed pungi will tell us. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:19:25
yeah so we have the PRs ready
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:19:54
!releng 12550
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:19:56
**releng #12550** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12550):**Fedora 42 Mass Branching Tracker**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:19:56
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:19:56
● **Opened:** 6 days ago by jnsamyak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:19:56
● **Last Updated:** 7 hours ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:19:56
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:20:10
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12550#comment-953643
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:20:19
I have linked all the PRs here!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:21:43
In ansible, there were templates introduced by adam in nightly crons, so there were less changes involved in that section otherwise all similar - but it would be good to have one more eyes on those templating just to make sure I dont miss anything
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:21:58
anything that we are aware or need to wait for?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:22:13
look out before we kick branching off tomorrow?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:22:21
nothing I know of.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:22:45
I'll ping os build folks that it will happen tomorrow
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:23:52
it will unstick after 1 hour...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:24:13
but if impatient, you can manually restart the vault.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:24:31
hahaha it's alright
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:24:39
1 hour will be in... 2 minutes. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:24:46
nirik: it's alright for this release, but from the next one I'm planning to ask fesco to change the 14 UTC set time to atleast 10 UTC or something; So we can start in my afternoon and not in my evening
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:24:59
what do you think?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:25:14
yeah, sounds fine to me...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:26:00
I'll of course be asleep then, but can help when I get up if anything still needs doing.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:26:02
I'm happy to do it this at the same time, since I want to try out the koji external build disabling using IPTABLES like last time together
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:26:39
yep less burden for you, and hopefully when you get in we have some things already done
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:27:41
Adjusting time for you sounds like a fine idea to me.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:28:09
okay that's all!
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:28:21
I'll raise this after this release is done :3
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:28:41
and hopefully we get out of tomorrow in one peice, all the best to everyone
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:29:02
Tickets section?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:29:24
Last time it went pretty well. Hopefully with the checklist we can get even better this time.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:30:07
!link https://pagure.io/releng/issues
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:30:07
!info This is the time where you can bring up releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers, etc.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:30:07
!topic Tickets that need attention.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:30:42
our ticket pile is growing. ;(
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:30:46
There's a new one.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:30:57
!releng 12561
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:31:01
**releng #12561** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12561):**Fedora Atomic Desktops Bootable Containers are not updated on the registry**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:31:01
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:31:01
● **Last Updated:** Never
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:31:01
● **Opened:** 52 seconds ago by siosm
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:31:01
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:32:02
needs investigation.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:32:06
I'l sort some out once the branching is over; some are opened and can be closed after reviews, some need dev work so it's a combo
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:32:10
all the logs should be in reports on the releng-cron list
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:32:53
yeah, I can try and go close some to... I think there's probibly some we can close.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:33:10
we could also start going from the oldest tickets each meeting
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:33:47
ie, https://pagure.io/releng/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:34:04
yep
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:34:14
but I have one to discuss quickly
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:34:23
!releng 12527
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:34:24
● **Last Updated:** a week ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:34:24
**releng #12527** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12527):**Fedora 42 Mass Rebuild Tracker**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:34:24
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:34:24
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:34:24
● **Opened:** 3 weeks ago by jnsamyak
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:34:49
Wanted to bring up last two comments
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:34:51
^^
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:35:57
this is/was being discussed on the devel list
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:36:20
Should we add another ticket, from this reference? Because this looks like a enhancement request :3
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:36:32
I think the consensus was to add a check for sidetags before mass rebuild. Either check them all, or ping owners or something.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:36:55
well, we need to come up with the actual thing we want to do.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:37:49
yeah, but i think we can close this ticket?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:37:50
I guess lets review the devel thread and try and propose any actions based on it?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:38:05
yeah, mass rebuild is done. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:40:43
+1
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:40:55
This can be closed?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:41:03
!releng 12501
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:41:10
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:41:10
● **Last Updated:** a month ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:41:10
● **Opened:** a month ago by dcavalca
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:41:10
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:41:10
**releng #12501** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12501):**Update ejected from the push because of missing tags**
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:42:05
I guess so. we don't know the actual cause of the problem, but not sure how we can really find out at this point.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:42:09
so, +1 close
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:42:38
+1
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:43:36
!releng 10073
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:43:37
● **Last Updated:** 7 months ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:43:37
● **Opened:** 3 years ago by mboswell
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:43:37
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:43:37
**releng #10073** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10073):**Fedora-34-Beta .composeinfo file**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:43:37
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:44:00
this can be closed? it's a duplicate of another existing ticket and... really old
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:44:55
+1 close
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:45:27
!releng 10376
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:45:28
● **Last Updated:** 3 years ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:45:28
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:45:28
● **Opened:** 3 years ago by mattdm
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:45:28
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:45:28
**releng #10376** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10376):**Add procedure for updating comps to branch process**
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:45:51
we have CI now that tells us when things are missing or not sorted and checks arches.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:45:55
so I think this can be closed.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:46:21
yeah okay to close
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:46:58
The branch was deleted, then the requestor pushed it again by accident... sysadmin-main is required so I can't delete it again.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:46:58
!releng 12470
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:01
● **Assignee:** zlopez
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:01
**releng #12470** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12470):**Delete "firefox-fix" branch in xdg-desktop-portal**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:01
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:01
● **Opened:** 3 months ago by jgrulich
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:01
● **Last Updated:** 2 months ago
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:47:08
!releng 10837
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:09
● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:09
**releng #10837** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10837):**Unretire pam_krb5**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:09
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:09
● **Closed: Fixed** 2 years ago by humaton
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:09
● **Opened:** 2 years ago by jcpunk
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:09
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:47:14
oops... wrong one
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:47:22
!releng 10838
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:23
● **Opened:** 2 years ago by adamwill
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:23
**releng #10838** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10838):**Ensure greenwave bodhiupdate_bodhipush_openqa_upgrade policy is updated when a release goes EOL**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:23
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:23
● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:47:23
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:47:29
assign it to me, i can delete it
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:47:37
this one can be closed too I think. greenwave now uses a template.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:48:01
yes it uses a templat
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:50:30
!releng 11527
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:50:31
● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:50:31
**releng #11527** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11527):**Fix tokens for ftbfs_weekly_reminder. script**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:50:31
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:50:31
● **Last Updated:** 4 months ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:50:31
● **Opened:** a year ago by kevin
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:50:39
I think this was fixed. let me confim
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:51:13
oh yeah, it's working, but still printing the date.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:51:25
which it would be nice if it did not
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:52:50
!releng 7428
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:52:52
● **Last Updated:** 9 months ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:52:52
**releng #7428** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7428):**Anaconda & bodhi update improvements**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:52:52
● **Opened:** 6 years ago by m4rtink
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:52:52
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:52:52
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:52:59
Samyak did a ping 9 months ago and no response. Close?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:53:18
+1 to close
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:53:30
+1
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:53:41
I can look again :3
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:54:59
!releng 7520
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:55:03
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:55:03
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:55:03
● **Last Updated:** 4 years ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:55:03
**releng #7520** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7520):**Provide stable names for images**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:55:03
● **Opened:** 6 years ago by till
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:55:11
No reply after 4 years... Close as "Won't fix"?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:56:25
hum, yeah...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:56:41
I mean it would be nice to implement somehow, but... clearly it's not been a priority
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:57:15
If someone wants it in the future they are free to open a ticket. But many people mentioned are not around anymore.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:58:07
I think let's keep it opened
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:58:14
and put a grooming tag to it
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
17:58:32
I need to go through the ticket to calculate the work and feasibilty
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:59:37
!releng 10278
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
17:59:42
Badges fall under releng?
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:59:43
● **Last Updated:** 3 years ago
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:59:43
**releng #10278** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10278):**Fedora release EOL badges tasks lost in migration to new docs**
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:59:43
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:59:43
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:59:43
● **Opened:** 3 years ago by troycurtisjr
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:00:09
And that'll be the last one as we are at time.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
18:01:15
well, this is a releng related badge
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
18:01:21
Yeah
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
18:01:25
but it can't really ever be claimed anymore.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
18:01:26
Lets keep it open
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
18:01:38
it's for committing to a EOL branch
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
18:01:47
but we disallow that now, so... how could anyone get it?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
18:01:51
and why would we want them to?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:02:02
So let me close with explanation?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
18:02:11
Hmmmm
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:02:33
!info Next chair Feb 10: ???
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:02:33
!topic Choose next chair.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
18:02:57
yeah, I dont see how the badge could work... but perhaps I am missing something?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:03:06
!info Next chair Feb 10: Patrik
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
18:03:14
I can chair next week
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:03:21
Alright, great.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:03:30
!info Next chair Feb 10: Samyak
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:03:38
I won't touch that ticket then and that's all for today folks!
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:03:43
!endmeeting
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
18:03:43
!info Thank you all for coming!