#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org log

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:00:24

!startmeeting Infrastructure (2025-08-14)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:26

Meeting started at 2025-08-14 17:00:24 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:27

The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2025-08-14)'

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:00:33

!topic Hola y bienvenido

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:00:33

!meetingname infrastructure

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:00:33

!info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cle/

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:00:33

!info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:00:33

!info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:00:33

!chair @nirik:matrix.scrye.com @zlopez:matrix.org @nb:fedora.im bodanel @dtometzki:fedora.im @jnsamyak:matrix.org @lenkaseg:fedora.im @patrikp:matrix.org @james:fedora.im

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:34

The Meeting Name is now infrastructure

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:00:47

Hi everyone

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:00:53

Welcome to today infra meeting

<@james:fedora.im>

17:04:31

Hey

<@james:fedora.im>

17:04:37

Nirik out today

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:05:11

You are right he is off today

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:05:36

Let's see how many folks will show up

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:05:48

!info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:05:48

!info Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:05:48

!topic New folks introductions

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:05:55

Anybody new around?

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:06:09

Hi, me 👋

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:07:03

Welcome to infra :-)

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:07:22

I'm interested to start learning Infra stuff to mainly help myself. I will have very limited capacity, but I hope that over time I will be able to start helping other with what I learn in the process.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:08:03

That is a good approach

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:08:14

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:08:16

Vít Smolík (smoliicek) - he / him / his

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:08:16

Are you in fi-apprentice group already?

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:08:20

I have my own backlog I bring, on which I want to learn. So I expect to seek mentors or at least reviewers for every ticket I'll create.

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:08:39

No, I'm not in the `fi-apprentice` group yet.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:10:10

Look around, try to find anything you would like to work on. Don't be afraid to ask in #admin:fedoraproject.org channel

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:11:21

I started by fixing the Infra Wiki meeting times and Infra Docs for newcomers 🙂

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:11:48

That is a really good start

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:12:05

There is always some doc that is not up to date

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:13:30

Apart from that I'm a packager of 9 years, MariaDB & MySQL, so I know my ways around.

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:13:30

Landed number of Fedora Changes through the years. Just not in Infra - that will be a new adventure for me.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:14:25

That explains why your name was familiar to me :-)

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:14:30

while we are talking about the wiki, shouldn't we move the wiki page to docs.fp.o?

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:15:11

we also have 2 "getting started with infra" pages, one on fp.o/wiki/ and one on docs.fp.o

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:15:31

The docs should be priority one

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:16:40

so maybe get the pages to the same state, then just rederict to the docs.fp.o one?

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:17:09

That would be best and I think we have that in our TODO, it's just a low priority

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:20:01

If there aren't any other questions from newcomers, let's move on

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:20:25

@[Michal Schorm] im also new, but we could get to the updating together, if you want.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:20:45

That is a good idea

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:21:29

!info chair 2025-08-14 - Zlopez

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:21:29

!info chair 2025-08-21 - ???

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:21:29

!info chair 2025-08-28 - ???

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:21:29

!topic Next chair

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:21:29

!info magic eight ball says:

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:21:53

Any volunteers for the upcoming weeks?

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:22:49

i could probably take it on the 28/8, if you let me do it

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:23:12

It isn't difficult, you will just copy out from agenda

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:23:33

alright, so i can do it on the 28/8

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:24:01

!info chair 2025-08-28 - Vit Smolik

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:24:11

So we need somebody for the next week

<@james:fedora.im>

17:24:34

I can do it

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:24:53

It's yours

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:25:22

!info chair 2025-08-21 - James

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:25:32

Thursdays in general are very unfortunate for me, colliding heavily with personal life. I will likely attend very rarely. 😕

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:26:12

No problem, you can always reach to us in #admin:fedoraproject.org channel when we are around

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:27:11

also standups every working day (except friday) at 19:00 UTC

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:27:27

Which brings me to next topic

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:27:29

!info DC move is over, still a bit more cleanup and bringing up shipped machines left

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:27:29

!topic announcements and information

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:27:29

!info CLE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0815 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:27:29

!info CLE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1900 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:27:29

!info mass branching finished

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:30:52

Anything else I forgot?

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:31:15

i don't think so

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:31:43

@James about the docs things we were talking about, we already have an issue in fedora-infrastructure (12691), should we follow up there or just create a new issue?

<@james:fedora.im>

17:32:14

!ticket 12691

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:32:14

● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by smilner

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:32:14

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:32:14

**fedora-infrastructure #12691** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/12691):**Update/Remove Old Wiki Information**

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:32:14

● **Assignee:** james

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:32:14

● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:32:36

That one is great if you would like to work on it

<@james:fedora.im>

17:32:46

That's for a specific page ... probably better to open new issues for other pages.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:32:47

I said we have it somewhere in backlog

<@james:fedora.im>

17:33:11

But if you want to help fix that page (needs a redirect) ... then using that issue is fine, obviously ;)

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:34:00

alright, ill create a new issue after

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:34:15

Let's continue with oncall

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:34:37

!info on call from 2025-08-07 to 2025-08-14 - nirik

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:34:37

!info on call from 2025-08-15 to 2025-08-21 - ???

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:34:37

!info on call from 2025-08-22 to 2025-08-28 - ???

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:34:37

!info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/day_to_day_fedora/#_the_oncall_role_in_our_team

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:34:37

!topic Oncall

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:35:12

So who wants the following weeks, I will not be around for those two

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:36:37

i don't have many perms yet, but i guess i could take the 22 - 28/8 week?

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:37:33

It's more about pointing people to correct places or if it's something urgent pinging people that can do something about it

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:38:18

The main function is to protect others from distractions

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:38:28

sure, ill do it

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:38:28

So anybody can do that

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:38:43

What is your FAS username?

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:39:25

!info on call from 2025-08-22 to 2025-08-28 - Vit Smolik

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:39:36

smoliicek

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:40:10

Oh, you want the week after, in that case I don't need it to setup the oncall now

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:40:21

So anybody for next week

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:42:41

So anybody for next week?

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:43:03

I think we can leave it empty if nobody wants to take it

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:46:16

Huh, I was still oncall, it seems we never moved it to nirik :-D

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:46:34

well im not home, else i would take it

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:46:59

Same here

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:47:02

!info on call from 2025-08-15 to 2025-08-21 - None

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:47:07

how do you even set the oncall? is it a command?

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:47:47

It needs to be done in bots control room, but only few people have access

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:48:10

And it's done by command

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:48:14

Let's continue

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:48:16

!info Summary of last week: (from current oncall)

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:48:51

I didn't saw any oncall ping, but got few pings regarding signing queue

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:50:09

Next topic as we have only 10 minutes left

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:50:10

!topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:50:10

!info Go over existing items and fix them

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:50:10

!info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:50:20

Let's see

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:50:45

We still have the issue with kernel02

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:51:20

And logdetective02, but we didn't found how to remove that one as we don't want to watch it anymore

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:52:09

Other than that usual things that remained after DC move

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:53:11

As we have only few minutes left, let's go to open floor

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:53:16

!topic Open Floor

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:53:26

Anybody has something for open floor?

<@james:fedora.im>

17:53:33

Not me

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:53:48

I looked it up in FAS. Lists 8 sponsors, says to contact them. So I just ping one of them in the Infra channel? Or should I rather create an Infra ticket?

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:53:48

How do I get into the `fi-apprentice` group?

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:55:11

Michal Schorm: I should be able to add you

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:55:58

What is your FAS username?

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:56:19

mschorm

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:56:48

And you are there now

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:57:02

!groups mschorm

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:57:03

Confirmed, thanks 👍️

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:57:23

I don't remember the command now :-D

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:57:42

maybe

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:57:44

!group mschorm

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:44

**Usage:** !group <subcommand> [...]

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:44

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:44

● members <groupname> - Return a list of members of the specified group

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:44

● sponsors <groupname> - Return a list of owners of the specified group

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:44

● info <groupname> - Return a list of owners of the specified group

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:57:56

!user

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:57

● localtime <username> - Returns the current time of the user.

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:57

**Usage:** !user <subcommand> [...]

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:57

● info [username] - Return brief information about a Fedora user.

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:57

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:57:57

● hello [username] - Return brief information about a Fedora user.

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:58:08

!user info mschrom

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:58:09

Sorry, but Fedora Accounts user 'mschrom' does not exist

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:58:21

!user info mschorm

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:58:25

Timezone: None,

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:58:25

GPG Key IDs: None

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:58:25

Locale: None,

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:58:25

Creation: 2016-08-22T10:48:10,

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:58:25

Pronouns: unset,

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:58:25

Name: None,

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:58:25

User: mschorm,

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:58:39

if i could write, the commands would run better maybe

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

17:59:18

We are still missing !fasinfo command that was in the previous zodbot, that showed groups as well

<@mschorm:fedora.im>

17:59:26

Anyway, I have the FAS open and I see it in the list of my groups now, so should be alright 🙂

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

18:00:03

We are at the end of our time, thanks everybody for coming today :-)

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

18:00:08

!endmeeting