2025-08-14 17:00:24 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !startmeeting Infrastructure (2025-08-14)
2025-08-14 17:00:26 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-08-14 17:00:24 UTC
2025-08-14 17:00:27 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2025-08-14)'
2025-08-14 17:00:33 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !topic Hola y bienvenido
2025-08-14 17:00:33 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !meetingname infrastructure
2025-08-14 17:00:33 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cle/
2025-08-14 17:00:33 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
2025-08-14 17:00:33 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
2025-08-14 17:00:33 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !chair @nirik:matrix.scrye.com @zlopez:matrix.org @nb:fedora.im bodanel @dtometzki:fedora.im @jnsamyak:matrix.org @lenkaseg:fedora.im @patrikp:matrix.org @james:fedora.im
2025-08-14 17:00:34 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now infrastructure
2025-08-14 17:00:47 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Hi everyone
2025-08-14 17:00:53 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Welcome to today infra meeting
2025-08-14 17:04:31 <@james:fedora.im> Hey
2025-08-14 17:04:37 <@james:fedora.im> Nirik out today
2025-08-14 17:05:11 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> You are right he is off today
2025-08-14 17:05:36 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Let's see how many folks will show up
2025-08-14 17:05:48 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
2025-08-14 17:05:48 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/
2025-08-14 17:05:48 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !topic New folks introductions
2025-08-14 17:05:55 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Anybody new around?
2025-08-14 17:06:09 <@mschorm:fedora.im> Hi, me 👋
2025-08-14 17:07:03 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Welcome to infra :-)
2025-08-14 17:07:22 <@mschorm:fedora.im> I'm interested to start learning Infra stuff to mainly help myself. I will have very limited capacity, but I hope that over time I will be able to start helping other with what I learn in the process.
2025-08-14 17:08:03 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> That is a good approach
2025-08-14 17:08:14 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !hi
2025-08-14 17:08:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Vít Smolík (smoliicek) - he / him / his
2025-08-14 17:08:16 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Are you in fi-apprentice group already?
2025-08-14 17:08:20 <@mschorm:fedora.im> I have my own backlog I bring, on which I want to learn. So I expect to seek mentors or at least reviewers for every ticket I'll create.
2025-08-14 17:08:39 <@mschorm:fedora.im> No, I'm not in the `fi-apprentice` group yet.
2025-08-14 17:10:10 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Look around, try to find anything you would like to work on. Don't be afraid to ask in #admin:fedoraproject.org channel
2025-08-14 17:11:21 <@mschorm:fedora.im> I started by fixing the Infra Wiki meeting times and Infra Docs for newcomers 🙂
2025-08-14 17:11:48 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> That is a really good start
2025-08-14 17:12:05 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> There is always some doc that is not up to date
2025-08-14 17:13:30 <@mschorm:fedora.im> Apart from that I'm a packager of 9 years, MariaDB & MySQL, so I know my ways around.
2025-08-14 17:13:30 <@mschorm:fedora.im> Landed number of Fedora Changes through the years. Just not in Infra - that will be a new adventure for me.
2025-08-14 17:14:25 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> That explains why your name was familiar to me :-)
2025-08-14 17:14:30 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> while we are talking about the wiki, shouldn't we move the wiki page to docs.fp.o?
2025-08-14 17:15:11 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> we also have 2 "getting started with infra" pages, one on fp.o/wiki/ and one on docs.fp.o
2025-08-14 17:15:31 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> The docs should be priority one
2025-08-14 17:16:40 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> so maybe get the pages to the same state, then just rederict to the docs.fp.o one?
2025-08-14 17:17:09 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> That would be best and I think we have that in our TODO, it's just a low priority
2025-08-14 17:20:01 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> If there aren't any other questions from newcomers, let's move on
2025-08-14 17:20:25 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> @[Michal Schorm] im also new, but we could get to the updating together, if you want.
2025-08-14 17:20:45 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> That is a good idea
2025-08-14 17:21:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info chair 2025-08-14 - Zlopez
2025-08-14 17:21:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info chair 2025-08-21 - ???
2025-08-14 17:21:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info chair 2025-08-28 - ???
2025-08-14 17:21:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !topic Next chair
2025-08-14 17:21:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info magic eight ball says:
2025-08-14 17:21:53 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Any volunteers for the upcoming weeks?
2025-08-14 17:22:49 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> i could probably take it on the 28/8, if you let me do it
2025-08-14 17:23:12 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> It isn't difficult, you will just copy out from agenda
2025-08-14 17:23:33 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> alright, so i can do it on the 28/8
2025-08-14 17:24:01 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info chair 2025-08-28 - Vit Smolik
2025-08-14 17:24:11 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> So we need somebody for the next week
2025-08-14 17:24:34 <@james:fedora.im> I can do it
2025-08-14 17:24:53 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> It's yours
2025-08-14 17:25:22 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info chair 2025-08-21 - James
2025-08-14 17:25:32 <@mschorm:fedora.im> Thursdays in general are very unfortunate for me, colliding heavily with personal life. I will likely attend very rarely. 😕
2025-08-14 17:26:12 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> No problem, you can always reach to us in #admin:fedoraproject.org channel when we are around
2025-08-14 17:27:11 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> also standups every working day (except friday) at 19:00 UTC
2025-08-14 17:27:27 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Which brings me to next topic
2025-08-14 17:27:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info DC move is over, still a bit more cleanup and bringing up shipped machines left
2025-08-14 17:27:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !topic announcements and information
2025-08-14 17:27:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info CLE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0815 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
2025-08-14 17:27:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info CLE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1900 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
2025-08-14 17:27:29 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info mass branching finished
2025-08-14 17:30:52 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Anything else I forgot?
2025-08-14 17:31:15 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> i don't think so
2025-08-14 17:31:43 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> @James about the docs things we were talking about, we already have an issue in fedora-infrastructure (12691), should we follow up there or just create a new issue?
2025-08-14 17:32:14 <@james:fedora.im> !ticket 12691
2025-08-14 17:32:14 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 2 weeks ago by smilner
2025-08-14 17:32:14 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-08-14 17:32:14 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #12691** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/12691):**Update/Remove Old Wiki Information**
2025-08-14 17:32:14 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** james
2025-08-14 17:32:14 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 2 weeks ago
2025-08-14 17:32:36 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> That one is great if you would like to work on it
2025-08-14 17:32:46 <@james:fedora.im> That's for a specific page ... probably better to open new issues for other pages.
2025-08-14 17:32:47 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I said we have it somewhere in backlog
2025-08-14 17:33:11 <@james:fedora.im> But if you want to help fix that page (needs a redirect) ... then using that issue is fine, obviously ;)
2025-08-14 17:34:00 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> alright, ill create a new issue after
2025-08-14 17:34:15 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Let's continue with oncall
2025-08-14 17:34:37 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info on call from 2025-08-07 to 2025-08-14 - nirik
2025-08-14 17:34:37 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info on call from 2025-08-15 to 2025-08-21 - ???
2025-08-14 17:34:37 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info on call from 2025-08-22 to 2025-08-28 - ???
2025-08-14 17:34:37 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/day_to_day_fedora/#_the_oncall_role_in_our_team
2025-08-14 17:34:37 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !topic Oncall
2025-08-14 17:35:12 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> So who wants the following weeks, I will not be around for those two
2025-08-14 17:36:37 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> i don't have many perms yet, but i guess i could take the 22 - 28/8  week?
2025-08-14 17:37:33 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> It's more about pointing people to correct places or if it's something urgent pinging people that can do something about it
2025-08-14 17:38:18 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> The main function is to protect others from distractions
2025-08-14 17:38:28 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> sure, ill do it
2025-08-14 17:38:28 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> So anybody can do that
2025-08-14 17:38:43 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> What is your FAS username?
2025-08-14 17:39:25 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info on call from 2025-08-22 to 2025-08-28 - Vit Smolik
2025-08-14 17:39:36 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> smoliicek
2025-08-14 17:40:10 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Oh, you want the week after, in that case I don't need it to setup the oncall now
2025-08-14 17:40:21 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> So anybody for next week
2025-08-14 17:42:41 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> So anybody for next week?
2025-08-14 17:43:03 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I think we can leave it empty if nobody wants to take it
2025-08-14 17:46:16 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Huh, I was still oncall, it seems we never moved it to nirik :-D
2025-08-14 17:46:34 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> well im not home, else i would take it
2025-08-14 17:46:59 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Same here
2025-08-14 17:47:02 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info on call from 2025-08-15 to 2025-08-21 - None
2025-08-14 17:47:07 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> how do you even set the oncall? is it a command?
2025-08-14 17:47:47 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> It needs to be done in bots control room, but only few people have access
2025-08-14 17:48:10 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> And it's done by command
2025-08-14 17:48:14 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Let's continue
2025-08-14 17:48:16 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info Summary of last week: (from current oncall)
2025-08-14 17:48:51 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I didn't saw any oncall ping, but got few pings regarding signing queue
2025-08-14 17:50:09 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Next topic as we have only 10 minutes left
2025-08-14 17:50:10 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
2025-08-14 17:50:10 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info Go over existing items and fix them
2025-08-14 17:50:10 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 
2025-08-14 17:50:20 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Let's see
2025-08-14 17:50:45 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> We still have the issue with kernel02
2025-08-14 17:51:20 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> And logdetective02, but we didn't found how to remove that one as we don't want to watch it anymore
2025-08-14 17:52:09 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Other than that usual things that remained after DC move
2025-08-14 17:53:11 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> As we have only few minutes left, let's go to open floor
2025-08-14 17:53:16 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !topic Open Floor
2025-08-14 17:53:26 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Anybody has something for open floor?
2025-08-14 17:53:33 <@james:fedora.im> Not me
2025-08-14 17:53:48 <@mschorm:fedora.im> I looked it up in FAS. Lists 8 sponsors, says to contact them. So I just ping one of them in the Infra channel? Or should I rather create an Infra ticket?
2025-08-14 17:53:48 <@mschorm:fedora.im> How do I get into the `fi-apprentice` group?
2025-08-14 17:55:11 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Michal Schorm: I should be able to add you
2025-08-14 17:55:58 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> What is your FAS username?
2025-08-14 17:56:19 <@mschorm:fedora.im> mschorm
2025-08-14 17:56:48 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> And you are there now
2025-08-14 17:57:02 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !groups mschorm
2025-08-14 17:57:03 <@mschorm:fedora.im> Confirmed, thanks 👍️
2025-08-14 17:57:23 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I don't remember the command now :-D
2025-08-14 17:57:42 <@mschorm:fedora.im> maybe
2025-08-14 17:57:44 <@mschorm:fedora.im> !group mschorm
2025-08-14 17:57:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **Usage:** !group <subcommand> [...]
2025-08-14 17:57:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-08-14 17:57:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● members <groupname> - Return a list of members of the specified group
2025-08-14 17:57:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● sponsors <groupname> - Return a list of owners of the specified group
2025-08-14 17:57:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● info <groupname> - Return a list of owners of the specified group
2025-08-14 17:57:56 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !user
2025-08-14 17:57:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● localtime <username> - Returns the current time of the user.
2025-08-14 17:57:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **Usage:** !user <subcommand> [...]
2025-08-14 17:57:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● info [username] - Return brief information about a Fedora user.
2025-08-14 17:57:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-08-14 17:57:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● hello [username] - Return brief information about a Fedora user.
2025-08-14 17:58:08 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !user info mschrom
2025-08-14 17:58:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Sorry, but Fedora Accounts user 'mschrom' does not exist
2025-08-14 17:58:21 <@mschorm:fedora.im> !user info mschorm
2025-08-14 17:58:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im>  Timezone: None,
2025-08-14 17:58:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im>  GPG Key IDs: None
2025-08-14 17:58:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im>  Locale: None,
2025-08-14 17:58:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im>  Creation: 2016-08-22T10:48:10,
2025-08-14 17:58:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im>  Pronouns: unset,
2025-08-14 17:58:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im>  Name: None,
2025-08-14 17:58:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> User: mschorm,
2025-08-14 17:58:39 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> if i could write, the commands would run better maybe
2025-08-14 17:59:18 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> We are still missing !fasinfo command that was in the previous zodbot, that showed groups as well
2025-08-14 17:59:26 <@mschorm:fedora.im> Anyway, I have the FAS open and I see it in the list of my groups now, so should be alright 🙂
2025-08-14 18:00:03 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> We are at the end of our time, thanks everybody for coming today :-)
2025-08-14 18:00:08 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !endmeeting