2025-08-28 17:00:06 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !startmeeting Infrastructure (2025-08-28)
2025-08-28 17:00:07 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-08-28 17:00:06 UTC
2025-08-28 17:00:07 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2025-08-28)'
2025-08-28 17:00:12 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !meetingname infrastructure
2025-08-28 17:00:12 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !chair @nirik:matrix.scrye.com @zlopez:matrix.org @nb:fedora.im bodanel @dtometzki:fedora.im @jnsamyak:matrix.org @lenkaseg:fedora.im @patrikp:matrix.org @james:fedora.im
2025-08-28 17:00:12 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
2025-08-28 17:00:12 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cle/
2025-08-28 17:00:12 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
2025-08-28 17:00:12 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !topic Hola y bienvenido
2025-08-28 17:00:13 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now infrastructure
2025-08-28 17:00:29 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !hi
2025-08-28 17:00:30 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Vít Smolík (smoliicek) - he / him / his
2025-08-28 17:00:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2025-08-28 17:01:02 <@humaton:fedora.im> o/
2025-08-28 17:01:14 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> we will wait a few before everyone joins :)
2025-08-28 17:01:21 <@nyagah:matrix.org> 👋
2025-08-28 17:02:27 <@james:fedora.im> Hey
2025-08-28 17:02:49 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
2025-08-28 17:02:49 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !topic New folks introductions
2025-08-28 17:02:49 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/
2025-08-28 17:02:59 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> any new folks here?
2025-08-28 17:04:31 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> i guess not
2025-08-28 17:04:53 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !topic Next chair
2025-08-28 17:04:53 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info magic eight ball says:
2025-08-28 17:04:53 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info chair 2025-08-28 - Vit Smolik
2025-08-28 17:04:53 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info chair 2025-09-04 - nirik
2025-08-28 17:05:23 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> we have a chair for next week, so if nobody wants to take the next one after, we can continue
2025-08-28 17:09:49 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> well, next meeting
2025-08-28 17:10:04 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info on call from 2025-08-22 to 2025-08-28 - Vit Smolik
2025-08-28 17:10:04 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info on call from 2025-08-15 to 2025-08-21 - None
2025-08-28 17:10:04 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info on call from 2025-08-29 to 2025-09-04 - nirik
2025-08-28 17:10:04 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !topic Oncall
2025-08-28 17:10:04 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/day_to_day_fedora/#_the_oncall_role_in_our_team
2025-08-28 17:10:23 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> we again have the next weeks on call, so im sending this just for consistency
2025-08-28 17:11:12 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> if somebody would switch the oncall in the bot, it would be great
2025-08-28 17:11:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I just did
2025-08-28 17:11:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !oncall
2025-08-28 17:11:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-08-28 17:11:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> If they do not respond, please file a ticket (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues)
2025-08-28 17:11:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● @nirik:matrix.scrye.com (kevin) Current Time for them: 10:11 (US/Pacific)
2025-08-28 17:11:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> The following people are oncall:
2025-08-28 17:13:17 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> thanks 
2025-08-28 17:13:24 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info Summary of last week: (from current oncall)
2025-08-28 17:13:43 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> i was oncall, no oncall pings 
2025-08-28 17:15:07 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info DC move is over, still a bit more cleanup and bringing up shipped machines left
2025-08-28 17:15:07 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info mass branching finished
2025-08-28 17:15:07 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info CLE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1900 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
2025-08-28 17:15:07 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info CLE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0815 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
2025-08-28 17:15:07 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !topic announcements and information
2025-08-28 17:15:07 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info infra. freeze started
2025-08-28 17:15:37 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> any other announcements?
2025-08-28 17:16:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> my client seems to be lagging. Oh well...
2025-08-28 17:17:27 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info Go over existing items and fix them
2025-08-28 17:17:27 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
2025-08-28 17:17:27 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 
2025-08-28 17:17:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> all known stuff.
2025-08-28 17:18:17 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> @nirik do we do backlog refinement? or just go right to open floor now?
2025-08-28 17:18:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nothing thats major... all minor stuff...
2025-08-28 17:18:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Gwmngilfen has been doing a lot of work on zabbix recently tho, so perhaps we switch to it soonish. ;)
2025-08-28 17:18:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Vit Smolik: well, we usually try and decide... but not many people here today.
2025-08-28 17:19:02 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> that would be good (i actually know how to use zabbix too)
2025-08-28 17:19:24 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's already all up at https://zabbix.fedoraproject.org (and zabbix.stg.)
2025-08-28 17:19:31 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> so open floor now?
2025-08-28 17:19:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> So, probibly today we can just go to open floor?
2025-08-28 17:19:37 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> ill check it out
2025-08-28 17:19:44 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2025-08-28 17:20:15 <@humaton:fedora.im> I have one thing, surprise surprise its about forge migration
2025-08-28 17:20:55 <@humaton:fedora.im> My idea is to start migrating our openshift app sources first. Updating ansible in pagure and redeploy. WDYT?
2025-08-28 17:20:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> whats that? never heard of it.
2025-08-28 17:21:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 😀
2025-08-28 17:21:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> If we have a org structure we like, sure... but please not during freeze.
2025-08-28 17:22:08 <@humaton:fedora.im> In between freezes?
2025-08-28 17:22:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> also... we need to look at moving the infra ansible one. We need to hook it up to sync to batcave, etc.
2025-08-28 17:22:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure.
2025-08-28 17:22:32 <@humaton:fedora.im> Because there is clear rollback path. Just revert commits in ansible and redeploy.
2025-08-28 17:23:00 <@humaton:fedora.im> Yeah, I want to do that as the last one.
2025-08-28 17:23:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure, and for some things I guess it would be ok to do even during freeze. But I'd really avoid things like resultsdb/etc that are in the critical path
2025-08-28 17:23:29 <@humaton:fedora.im> Since there is all the infra definition there. We can move it first or last. I prefer last because its the whole infra definition...
2025-08-28 17:23:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure, but it also only affects us... and we have a copy of the git repo...
2025-08-28 17:24:14 <@humaton:fedora.im> Sure I will put together list of the apps in order of the least impact to critical
2025-08-28 17:24:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> a list sounds great to me.
2025-08-28 17:24:40 <@humaton:fedora.im> hmm, should we do it first then?
2025-08-28 17:24:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> somehow I was thinking it should be first, but I guess it doesn't matter
2025-08-28 17:25:03 <@humaton:fedora.im> It will give us nice feel of the PR workflow there because there will be a bunch of updates to the repo.
2025-08-28 17:25:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, pretty active
2025-08-28 17:27:00 <@humaton:fedora.im> SO just that I am not forgetting something, we will need to update the docs, README's in pagure.io, Make a post to discussions. And the actual changes in code-base's
2025-08-28 17:27:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> is forge.fp.o emitting fedora-messaging messages yet?
2025-08-28 17:27:49 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, sounds about right. and the actual migrating
2025-08-28 17:27:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> hum there was some testing on stg
2025-08-28 17:28:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we need that for ansible repo... oh and...
2025-08-28 17:28:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> did we decide anything about CI? ansible we use zuul currently... and some of the other apps do too... would be good to have some story there.
2025-08-28 17:29:56 <@humaton:fedora.im> so we can specify webhook2fedmsg per repo, not sure if we made it default configuration for new repositories
2025-08-28 17:30:06 <@humaton:fedora.im> about CI
2025-08-28 17:31:10 <@humaton:fedora.im> I dont want us to run anything resembling CI. 
2025-08-28 17:31:27 <@humaton:fedora.im> There are some voices asking for it but I think we should not do that.
2025-08-28 17:32:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, we need some story for ci... lots of projects use things on pagure.
2025-08-28 17:32:39 <@humaton:fedora.im> Always ready rhel might have some future plans because they are the people running 3 CI systems currently
2025-08-28 17:32:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, I think zuul is going away
2025-08-28 17:32:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but other than that I am not sure.
2025-08-28 17:33:05 <@humaton:fedora.im> Well they can keep using Zuul through Forgejo actions 
2025-08-28 17:33:16 <@humaton:fedora.im> but yeah zull is going away
2025-08-28 17:33:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ah, that will work? we should come up with some migration doc then if it will for now
2025-08-28 17:33:55 <@humaton:fedora.im> ok I will pick non critical app that uses zull and do the example migration
2025-08-28 17:34:14 <@humaton:fedora.im> try to do some docs of it. But yeah it is technically possible.
2025-08-28 17:34:34 <@humaton:fedora.im> Thanks for input, I have my action items.
2025-08-28 17:35:44 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> good to discuss. Getting excited for the migration!
2025-08-28 17:38:56 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> anyone anything else?
2025-08-28 17:40:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nothing much here.
2025-08-28 17:41:37 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> okay, thanks everyone for comming, see you at the standup and next week :)
2025-08-28 17:41:41 <@smoliicek:fedora.im> !endmeeting