#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org log

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:03:32

!startmeeting RELENG (2025-09-29)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:03:34

Meeting started at 2025-09-29 15:03:32 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:03:34

The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2025-09-29)'

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:03:54

!meetingname releng

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:03:56

The Meeting Name is now releng

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:04:05

!chair nirik jnsamyak patrikp amedvede

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:04:10

morning

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:04:18

!info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it STOPS.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:04:42

!info Agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:04:54

!topic Init process.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:05:06

Do we have anything for the init? Any blockers/tasks/issues/requests/features that need releng intervention?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:05:11

Hello folks!

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:05:56

How’s everyone doing?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:06:13

it's early monday... too soon to tell. ;)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:06:22

Hahaha happy Monday

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:06:37

Nothing from me either for now it’s been quite day me like u

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:06:43

Nothing from me either for now it’s been quite day me likey

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:07:03

So let’s go on for the next topic ?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:07:13

sure

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:07:22

!topic Scheduled actions coming up in the next week.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:07:43

!info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are due to be done in the next week.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:07:59

!link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-releng-tasks.html

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:08:11

next tuesday is start of final freeze

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:08:13

Fedora 43 final freeze is starting next Tuesday

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:08:24

Beat you to it

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:08:30

I see no blockers

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:08:36

For now

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:09:16

Anything else from the release as well?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:10:18

!me hey everyone

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:10:34

hey Anton

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:10:44

Hello!

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:11:35

Let’s move on then

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:11:45

!topic Tickets that need attention.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:12:01

!info This is the time where you can bring up releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers, etc.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:12:15

!link https://pagure.io/releng/issues

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:12:20

perhaps we should look at some of the oldest tickets and see if we can close them/do something with them?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:13:00

good idea, we can start directly from the bottom

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:13:03

(unless folks have newer ones to discuss of course)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:13:24

Yes, we should idea. I had one thing that restructuring thing is going on track. I believe and suggested deadline is on Wednesday Anton and Patrick both working on it. PR work progress. So let’s see how far we can go with that one start done. We will be unblocked from the Migration, and we will move forward with the forgejo thing as required.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:14:27

yeah, I was meaning to look some more at the reorg stuff, but it's... a lot and I haven't had too much time.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:14:52

I trust you all to do the right things. ;) But if you have any specific questions for me, happy to try and answer.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:15:00

I have nothing new to discuss. We can look at the backlogs, and perhaps we can groom some of the tickets also so that we can do at upcoming sprint as part of planned work for release engineering scrum wise, I have initiated and launched a new sprint called sprint-1 there is a board for it

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:15:04

is the idea to land that this week before freeze?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:15:38

Yeah doubling checking mostly everything and sending questions your way if required it’s all covered, trying to do the best ;)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:16:34

Yes the prs innn, migration is scheduled to happen before freeze, but ideally, if there is a delay in the work, I want to do Migration after, but the PR should get in before the freeze happens

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:17:09

@nirik if you would like to see how reorg is going I think the best place is the sheet with whole scripts https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tf4Pf8Xxaq2KZiQnMuQnWCnseKqffAAo4ifV22AFJZw/edit?gid=0#gid=0

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:17:11

do note that we MUST fix any paths in ansible when we change this... there's specific scripts called from there that will need adjusting to the new setup

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:17:25

cool. thanks

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:17:35

Yes that is already being worked on

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:17:52

also note that some scripts refer to other scripts. :)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:18:03

I’ll check in once again before merging it

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:18:32

Yes we have a list of common repository that releng touches and will try to update them parallel. We update the paths.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:19:04

and also docs. ;)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:19:13

so many parts, but things will be much nicer when it's done

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:19:29

Yes already in the list to change tooo

<@humaton:fedora.im>

15:19:49

well nicer but too many parts as well

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:20:12

Hello jednorozec !

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:20:38

👋

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:20:41

anything else for this or let’s get to backlog and groom some work?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:21:00

✌️

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:21:05

I had one minor thing, but it can also be open floor.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:21:24

Shoot! Then we will go for backlogs

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:21:28

https://pagure.io/infra-docs-fpo/pull-request/419

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:21:47

we need to add a flag to the openh264 repo generation... to make a seperate debug/ tree

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:22:09

Good stuff

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:23:40

thats it.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:24:02

Merged

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:25:03

!info https://pagure.io/releng/issues?status=Open&order_key=date_created&order=asc

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:25:24

This is from last opened

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:25:25

lets step into the wayback machine! :)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:25:53

!releng 12032

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:25:54

● **Last Updated:** a year ago

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:25:54

● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:25:54

● **Opened:** a year ago by pbrobinson

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:25:54

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:25:54

**releng #12032** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12032):**The aarch64 minimal synced to the wrong location for releases**

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:26:07

maybe its better to start from last modified?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:26:35

could be.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:26:48

I think we finished 12032? can be closed? but we should check

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:27:25

I don’t see any new issues for lat two releases let’s close?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:27:42

+1 from me

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:28:04

I’ll review once and close it

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:28:36

Anton Medvedev: do you want to take the last modified issue and pick the last issue nd put it here?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:29:52

I mean, it's good point to start from the issue the didn't had our attention for longest time

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:30:07

!releng 10102

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:30:08

**releng #10102** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10102):**Need help determining size of server install DVD when pungi generates rpm repos with recommends**

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:30:08

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:30:08

● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:30:08

● **Last Updated:** 4 years ago

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:30:08

● **Opened:** 4 years ago by ngompa

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:31:28

Still required?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:31:55

I guess I'd say... no responses for a while, something someone else could do, close

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:32:12

agree

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:32:58

i think if issue is without response for more than 1 year it can be closed and if requester still need it, he can open a new one

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:33:10

Okay I’ll make it as it’s all good for now

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:33:20

Next?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:33:44

!releng 10278

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:33:45

**releng #10278** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10278):**Fedora release EOL badges tasks lost in migration to new docs**

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:33:45

● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:33:45

● **Last Updated:** 4 years ago

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:33:45

● **Opened:** 4 years ago by troycurtisjr

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:33:45

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:34:50

the badge makes no sense anymore. ;)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:35:02

I guess we could file a badges ticket to retire it and close this one?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:35:32

Badges :) yeah need to open there instead here, I’ll do that and close if someone else wants to ask!

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:36:02

last time I looked on this issue i couldn't find a badge he is talking about, so close from my perspective xd

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:36:18

it it no longer possible to get this.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:36:20

Yeah

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:36:28

That’s true

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:36:29

it was from the old CVS days... if you commit to a EOL branch

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:36:46

Good old days :)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:36:54

anyhow, it shouldn't be a thing. Badges should be for things we want to encourage people to do.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:37:16

committing to a eol branch isn't something we should want people to do (and now our hooks completely prevent it)

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:37:42

Yeah makes sense

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:37:50

true

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:37:52

I closed it as can’t fix

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:38:07

Next?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:38:33

I would say 3 old issues through releng weekly its a good pace, we can stop here or continue, up on you

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:39:06

I’m looking for some tickets to groom we just closed the not required tickets

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:41:45

!releng 10724

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:41:46

● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:41:46

**releng #10724** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10724):**Package rubygem-ruby_parser is retired in dist git, but PDC still see it as active**

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:41:46

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:41:46

● **Opened:** 3 years ago by zlopez

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:41:46

● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:42:07

With pdc retire let’s close this as well?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:42:45

yeah, issue title should not be a problem anymore😅

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:43:44

I think i see a ticket to groom

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:43:52

!releng 11233

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:43:53

● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:43:53

● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:43:53

● **Opened:** 2 years ago by yselkowitz

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:43:53

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:43:53

**releng #11233** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11233):**Automation of request-repos in flatpaks namespace**

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:43:59

Thoughts?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:45:23

!me looking on it

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:49:36

This is a though one...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:50:04

I guess for rust we could use those rules... but for flatpak... I guess just group membership...

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:50:40

so the person wants us to adjust request-repo method so it won't need vallidation from us on processing? if so we need to define exact rules, and with such it won't be a problem to implement

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:50:56

There is a membership that is already set up?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:51:12

right, we need to be careful tho... and not make it something that someone could misuse.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:51:52

I’ll look into it and groom the tickets perhaps?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:52:23

We are in final bits let’s move to next topic

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:52:36

sounds good

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

15:52:47

we should probibly get approval from fesco for new rules... but I guess it's borderline

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:53:04

Sure I’ll do the due diligence

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:53:08

!topic Choose next chair.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:53:21

Any volunteers?

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:53:26

I can chair next week

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:53:47

!info Next chair October 6th Anton Medvedev

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:54:04

!topic Discussion / Any other business / Open floor.

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:54:18

Anything for open floor?

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:56:04

Okay I’ll close in next two minutes if we don’t have anything else

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:56:06

nothing from me, I'm starting to feel bad again so I would like to go to bed now

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:56:14

Take care

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:56:20

!info Thank you all for coming!

<@amedvede:fedora.im>

15:56:22

thanks for chairing today

<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>

15:56:30

!endmeeting