<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:02:40
!startmeeting neurofedora - 2024-05-20
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
13:02:42
Meeting started at 2024-05-20 13:02:40 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
13:02:42
The Meeting name is 'neurofedora - 2024-05-20'
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:02:44
!meetingname NeuroFedora
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:02:57
!link https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2024/05/20/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-20-may-1300-utc.html
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:03:18
!topic Introductions and roll call
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:03:29
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
13:03:32
Sandro . (gui1ty)
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:03:37
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
13:03:39
Ankur Sinha (ankursinha) - he / him / his
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:07:51
!topic Tasks from last meeting
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:07:56
!link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-04-22/neurofedora-2024-04-22.2024-04-22-13.04.html
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:07
oo, no action items from last week
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:08
nice
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:15
!info no action items from last meeting
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:21
!topic Open pagure tickets
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:30
!link https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:09:37
No new tickets here either
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:09:58
!info No new tickets
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:10:08
!topic Packages health check
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:10:08
Can `bokeh` and `plotly` move forward now wrt nodejs/npm? WE have open PRs for those.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:10:10
!link https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:10:35
not sure, let me check the fesco etc. tix again
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:10:58
!info FESCo ticket for clarification: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3177
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:11:02
There are updates in [#567](https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/567). Did you see those?
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:11:13
!info accompanying FPC ticket: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1343
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:11:23
yep, just did the latest 3 too
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:11:45
> Packages containing JavaScript should make the best effort to regenerate any precompiled/pre-minimized JS wherever possible, as this leads to more maintainable packages. Where this would result in a significant hardship, the bundled pregenerated JS may be shipped. This does not eliminate the requirement to validate licenses of bundled code.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:12:12
So we just check licenses to make sure the bundled stuff has correct licenses, and that's pretty much it
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:12:45
Okay. I can look into updating plotly, then.
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:13:31
Bokeh I'd rather leave to the scientists. 😉
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:14:47
cool
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:14:56
!action Penguinpee update plotly
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:15:08
I can't at myself :(
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:15:29
!action Ankur update bokeh
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:15:32
!action Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD@fedora) (he/him/his) update bokeh
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:15:46
thanks :)
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:15:54
on to package health check then
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:17:55
Luis Bazan: you here?
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:19:57
hrm, even though neuro-sig has admin rights on rangehttpserver, I can't add epel folks..
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:20:33
Some actions are restricted to the main admin.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:21:03
weirdly enough, i was able to add myself as an admin, and then add epel folks
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:21:18
so, groups that are admins can add users, but not other groups..
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:21:40
Oh? Interesting. Sounds more like a bug than a feature, though.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:22:02
yeh..
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:22:52
Any urgent package issues we need to look at?
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:23:14
I wish issues regarding F38 could be filtered out from packager dashboard...
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:24:07
You can uncheck F38 in the settings bit
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:24:34
Not really. You may have seen the discussion regarding `pydocstyle` being retired in rawhide. Hopefully upstream will sort that one out.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:25:11
yeh, saw your e-mail---any response from upstream yet?
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:25:19
Excellent. The dashboard never seizes to amaze me...
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:26:54
that fell off my radar, unfortunately
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:28:17
Now I need a filter for excluded arches... All the Spyder issues are for arches that the package excludes
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:28:59
I'll try to update neuron + brian2 this week
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:29:05
they're well used tools
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:29:24
how's the pandas dropping i686 bit going?
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:30:05
I've submitted a PR. I'll nudge folks again. But it's ready to be merged into rawhide.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:30:31
oo, nice
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:31:03
Well, koji excluding 32-bit for `noarch` helped a lot.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:36:03
Cool
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:36:24
I just reviewed a few PRs, will keep working on the pending ones too
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:36:50
!info Neuro-sig packages are in good shape. A few FTBFS issues, and a few long standing ones (vxl/bokeh etc.)
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:37:01
!topic Open package reviews
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:37:35
!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:38:18
!info https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2254733 -> WIP
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:38:50
It seems `python-sciris` review is stalled. Time and experience permitting I can have a look at the open requests.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:39:34
Yeh, I think Josh is in and out at the moment
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:39:48
!info https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274394 -> ready for review
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:40:07
!info https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274557 -> ready for review ( but depends on 2274394 )
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:40:19
I'll see if I can do openctm something this week if no one else gets to it first
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:40:43
!topic Comp Neuro lab image task check
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:40:44
!link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:40:59
!info All green ✅
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:10
!topic Neuroscience query of the week
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:31
(now that it's updating again)
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:43:32
there are a few interesting ones
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:43:37
!link https://www.sciencenews.org/article/heart-brain-mental-health
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:43:45
!link https://www.sciencenews.org/article/t-rex-smart-neurons-dinosaur
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:43:55
one AI related one
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:43:57
!link https://www.sciencenews.org/article/artificial-intelligence-digital-ghost-ai
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:44:36
one related to AlphaFold3:
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:44:40
!link https://retractionwatch.com/2024/05/14/nature-earns-ire-over-lack-of-code-availability-for-google-deepmind-protein-folding-paper/
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:45:03
!link https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-gel-stops-mice-getting-too-drunk
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:46:52
This is a review on speech prostheses:
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:46:56
!link https://www.nature.com/articles/s41583-024-00819-9
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:47:12
I think it's open access, but please let me know if it isn't and I can send you the paper)
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:47:31
One last one:
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:47:43
!info https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.04540 -> "Is artificial consciousness achievable? Lessons from the human brain"
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:48:29
It seems only the abstract is available for free. But that's probably enough for my level of expertise.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:49:17
*sigh*
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:49:28
why a review needs to be paywalled is beyond me
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:49:47
but please don't use sci-hub to get around that
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:49:50
(wink)
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:50:12
!topic next meeting
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:50:20
same time, 2 weeks?
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:50:50
sounds good
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:52:26
!agreed Next meeting in 2 weeks on 3 June 2024 at 1300 UTC
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:52:37
!action Ankur publish blog post announcement etc
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:52:43
!topic Open floor
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:52:50
We have 8 minutes for anything else :)
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:53:17
my mind is blank
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:53:55
:D
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:54:01
I'm trying to get back to blogging
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:54:08
writing a weekly update
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:54:12
oh, that reminds me
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:54:27
!info Please remember to add your feeds to FAS for the new planet to have them
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:54:45
I'll need to add the neurofedora blog there too, but I've got to check if one can have multiple feeds
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:55:03
Oh, and of course
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:55:08
!info Election voting is on: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:55:52
!info New Fedora planet and necessary steps: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ZR6W63JX6VN5QK6U4POFQH2I5NCM2PP7/
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:56:10
cook, if we have nothing else, I'll close the meeting and we can go stretch for the remaining 5 minutes etc.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:56:27
!endmeeting