<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:01:11
!startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2024-06-17
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
13:01:12
Meeting started at 2024-06-17 13:01:11 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
13:01:13
The Meeting name is 'NeuroFedora - 2024-06-17'
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:01:16
!meetingname neurofedora
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
13:01:17
The Meeting Name is now neurofedora
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:01:55
!info Agenda: https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2024/06/17/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-17-june-1300-utc.html
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:02:03
!topic Introductions and roll call
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:02:41
!hi
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:02:56
!hello
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:03:04
zodbot: help
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:03:33
hrm, no zodbot?
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:03:34
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ meetbot not feeling well?
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:04:51
It says _offline_ when view Meetbot's status.
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:04:59
It says _offline_ when I view Meetbot's status.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:06:11
odd, but meetbot is here
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:06:14
or appears to be..
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:06:32
or was..
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:06:38
let's proceed and we'll see what happens
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:06:39
exciting
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:06:46
!topic Tasks from last meeting
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:06:53
!link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-05-20/neurofedora.2024-05-20-13.02.html
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:07:03
Penguinpee update plotly
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:07:38
This looks done
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:07:51
!info Penguinpee update plotly: DONE: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-plotly
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:05
!info Ankur update bokeh -> WIP
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:09
!action Ankur update bokeh
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:22
!info Ankur publish blog post announcement etc -> DONE
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:38
!topic Open pagure tickets
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:41
!link https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:08:59
!info Nothing new here
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:09:13
!topic Package health check
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:09:15
!link https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:11:52
Lots of new F41 FTI bugs. A lot of them are because these packages are actually FTBFS---their dependencies haven't been build for py3.13 successfully, so they cannot be built either.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:12:21
Penguinpee: thanks for triaging these bugs. Anything you want to note about the packages? Any critical ones holding back lots of deps and all that?
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:12:59
Not really. It's pretty diverse. Most dependencies are outside neuro-sig.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:16:39
OK, cool. So I guess we'll keep monitoring them and whenever all the deps of a package are ready, we can then attempt to rebuild it?
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:17:31
Oh, and the moment, FTI bugs may also imply FTBFS, right?
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:17:41
I saw some discussion on the #python:fedoraproject.org channel I think?
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:18:05
Actually, that will happen automatically as soon as all bugs another bug depends on are resolved. Not exactly sure how Miro does it, but he keeps kicking off builds.
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:18:49
Yes. It's pretty confusing. I'd prefer the destinction between FTI and FTBFS would be kept clear.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:19:19
ah cool, that's good
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:19:43
Yes. It's pretty confusing. I'd prefer the distinction between FTI and FTBFS would be kept clear.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:20:00
Yeh, me too. I understand that stuff can be FTI because it's FTBFS, but then I'd probably prefer it marked as FTBFS first
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:20:30
!info Lots of F41FTI/FTBFS bugs. Please do keep checking periodically to see if any of them can be fixed.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:21:10
I also noticed that numpy v2.x has just been released, and that's causing lots of stuff to break too
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:21:15
not in Fedora yet, though
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:21:36
but our upstream CI has begun barfing errors, so we've had to temporarily pin stuff to `numpy<2.0.0`
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:21:53
!info numpy v2.x was released yesterday: expect stuff to break when it gets to Fedora!
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:24:59
The other packages look fine. The usual updates, and long standing issues
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:25:00
I'm afraid a lot of upstreams will do that. I've seen lots of deprecation warnings regarding NumPy. Some of those will now break stuff for sure.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:25:30
Yeh, definitely, but it can't be helped. There's always a delay when these critical packages change API/ABI
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:25:43
I think the one holding us back for now is pytables
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:26:07
!info pytables doesn't work with numpy v2.x: https://github.com/PyTables/PyTables/issues/1083
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:26:19
Well, I wish those deprecation warnings would be getting the upstream attention they deserve in time. They are there for a reason.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:26:34
+1
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:26:54
i wonder if numpy2.x in Fedora will be done as a change?
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:26:58
let's see
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:27:25
It looks our hand will be forced.
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:27:39
It looks like our hand will be forced.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:28:43
Looks like a lot of upstream packages have fixed their bits: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/26191
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:29:46
pytables is just not one of them ..
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:30:06
!link https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/26191
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:30:15
Nice overview. Let's see how things pan out downstream.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:30:33
Your fingers can't keep up with your thoughts! Time for a BCI implant? :P
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:31:21
Exactly. But what's a BCI?
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:31:42
"brain computer interface"
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
13:32:00
nah just gotta train the fingers to go faster
<@nhanlon:beeper.com>
13:32:04
learn dvorak or something? /s
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:32:05
XD
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:32:11
yeh, gtypist helps
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:32:24
I'd rather not become a living AI...
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:32:26
(or did back in the day)
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:32:59
I also seem to type phonetically, misspelling words.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:34:01
yeh, happens to me sometimes too
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:34:15
!topic Package reviews check
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:35:00
!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:35:33
Ah, we do have 9 reviews waiting for reviewers
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:35:49
!info 9 reviews are waiting for reviewers
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:36:00
!action neuro-sig: please review these if you have the time
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:36:19
!action submitters: please consider requesting review-swaps on the -devel lists/channels too
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:37:27
`pybbi` is a new dependency for `bioframe`.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:38:03
I'll put that through fedora-review now
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:38:38
Thanks!
<@blackwell:fedora.im>
13:39:14
!hi
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:39:35
hi Jason Blackwell ! zodbot isn't replying at the mo :(
<@blackwell:fedora.im>
13:40:00
Understandable 😌
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:40:02
!topic Comp Neuro ISO generation check
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:40:07
!link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:40:19
!info Currently broken, probably because of all our FTI/FTBFS bugs
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:40:47
Yeh: https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/6159/119136159/mock_output.log
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(pillow) >= 9.1 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(notebook-shim) < 0.3~~ with python3.12dist(notebook-shim) >= 0.2) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyter-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyter-server) >= 2.4) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) >= 2.27.1) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tornado) >= 6.2 needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(notebook-shim) < 0.3~~ with python3.12dist(notebook-shim) >= 0.2) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: Problem 3: conflicting requests
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(async-lru) >= 1 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(httpx) >= 0.25 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(ipykernel) >= 6.5 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
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<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(jupyter-lsp) >= 2 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(notebook-shim) >= 0.2 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tornado) >= 6.2 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(packaging) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(jupyter-core) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(traitlets) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyter-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyter-server) >= 2.4) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) >= 2.27.1) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(async-lru) >= 1 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(httpx) >= 0.25 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(ipykernel) >= 6.5 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(jinja2) >= 3.0.3 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(jupyter-lsp) >= 2 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(notebook-shim) >= 0.2 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tornado) >= 6.2 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python3.12dist(packaging) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python3.12dist(jupyter-core) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python3.12dist(traitlets) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyter-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyter-server) >= 2.4) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) >= 2.27.1) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
```
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
```
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: Problem 1: conflicting requests
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(packaging) >= 21 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(numpy) >= 1.23 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
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<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
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<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(networkx) >= 2.8 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(pillow) >= 9.1 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(scipy) >= 1.9 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tifffile) >= 2022.8.12 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0
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13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(packaging) >= 21 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0
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13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(numpy) >= 1.23 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0
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13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(imageio) >= 2.33 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0
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13:41:05
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13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(networkx) >= 2.8 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(scipy) >= 1.9 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tifffile) >= 2022.8.12 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: Problem 2: conflicting requests
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
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13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyter-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyter-server) >= 2.4) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
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13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) >= 2.27.1) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:05
2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tornado) >= 6.2 needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:24
Not a lot we can do here at the moment
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:41:39
Gotta sit that one out.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:41:53
!topic Neuroscience query of the week
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:42:11
I'll have a quick look at the planets to see if anything new is up
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:42:17
!link https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/planet-neuroscientists/
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:42:25
!link https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/planet-neuroscience/
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:42:49
Not neuro, but interesting nevertheless: https://www.quantamagazine.org/ai-needs-enormous-computing-power-could-light-based-chips-help-20240520/
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:43:11
could perhaps be used in computational neuroscience for more efficient simulation of models I guess
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:43:49
For folks in the northern hemisphere: https://theconversation.com/summertime-can-be-germy-a-microbiologist-explains-how-to-avoid-getting-sick-at-the-barbecue-in-the-pool-or-on-the-trail-231794
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:44:15
A piece on the second law of thermodynamics: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/celebrating-second-law-thermodynamics
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:44:57
One from the great folks at retractionwatch: https://retractionwatch.com/2024/06/14/expression-of-concern-coming-for-paper-some-used-to-link-covid-19-vaccines-to-deaths/
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:45:06
Why Northern hemisphere? They do have summer time in the Southern hemisphere as well.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:45:25
yes, but not now :)
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:45:52
For folks interested in quantum stuff: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/earth-rotation-quantum-entanglement
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:45:57
Indeed. They simply get sich because of the cold weather.
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:46:03
Indeed. They simply get sick because of the cold weather.
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:47:14
One on chronic pain from the excellent Women in Neuroscience folks: https://womeninneuroscience.wixsite.com/winuk/post/bridging-the-gap-katelynn-boerner
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:48:27
A final one on long COVID: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/long-covid-universal-definition
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:48:32
there are more, do please take a look
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:49:01
!topic Next meeting day, and chair
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:49:09
Same time in 2 weeks folks?
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:49:35
!agreed Next meeting in 2 weeks at same time: 1300 UTC
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:49:46
!topic Open floor
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:49:56
We have 10 minutes for anything else that wasn't covered in the agenda
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:50:14
nothing here
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:51:33
I can't think of anything either, but I think I need a post lunch coffee to wake my brain up a bit..
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:52:07
likewise
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:53:46
Cool, let's close the meeting and use the remaining time to get coffee/tea :)
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:54:01
If there's anything at all folks, please drop into #neuro:fedoraproject.org ---we're always there :)
<@blackwell:fedora.im>
13:54:06
Agreed thanks for hosting!
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:54:13
thanks for coming everyone :)
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:54:29
uh, no zodbot, no cookies :(
<@gui1ty:fedora.im>
13:54:31
thanks for running
<@ankursinha:fedora.im>
13:55:02
!endmeeting