2024-06-17 13:01:11 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2024-06-17 2024-06-17 13:01:12 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-06-17 13:01:11 UTC 2024-06-17 13:01:13 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'NeuroFedora - 2024-06-17' 2024-06-17 13:01:16 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !meetingname neurofedora 2024-06-17 13:01:17 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now neurofedora 2024-06-17 13:01:55 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Agenda: https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2024/06/17/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-17-june-1300-utc.html 2024-06-17 13:02:03 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Introductions and roll call 2024-06-17 13:02:41 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !hi 2024-06-17 13:02:56 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !hello 2024-06-17 13:03:04 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> zodbot: help 2024-06-17 13:03:33 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> hrm, no zodbot? 2024-06-17 13:03:34 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ meetbot not feeling well? 2024-06-17 13:04:51 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> It says _offline_ when view Meetbot's status. 2024-06-17 13:04:59 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> It says _offline_ when I view Meetbot's status. 2024-06-17 13:06:11 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> odd, but meetbot is here 2024-06-17 13:06:14 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> or appears to be.. 2024-06-17 13:06:32 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> or was.. 2024-06-17 13:06:38 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> let's proceed and we'll see what happens 2024-06-17 13:06:39 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> exciting 2024-06-17 13:06:46 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Tasks from last meeting 2024-06-17 13:06:53 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-05-20/neurofedora.2024-05-20-13.02.html 2024-06-17 13:07:03 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Penguinpee update plotly 2024-06-17 13:07:38 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> This looks done 2024-06-17 13:07:51 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Penguinpee update plotly: DONE: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-plotly 2024-06-17 13:08:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Ankur update bokeh -> WIP 2024-06-17 13:08:09 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Ankur update bokeh 2024-06-17 13:08:22 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Ankur publish blog post announcement etc -> DONE 2024-06-17 13:08:38 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Open pagure tickets 2024-06-17 13:08:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting 2024-06-17 13:08:59 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Nothing new here 2024-06-17 13:09:13 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Package health check 2024-06-17 13:09:15 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig 2024-06-17 13:11:52 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Lots of new F41 FTI bugs. A lot of them are because these packages are actually FTBFS---their dependencies haven't been build for py3.13 successfully, so they cannot be built either. 2024-06-17 13:12:21 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Penguinpee: thanks for triaging these bugs. Anything you want to note about the packages? Any critical ones holding back lots of deps and all that? 2024-06-17 13:12:59 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Not really. It's pretty diverse. Most dependencies are outside neuro-sig. 2024-06-17 13:16:39 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> OK, cool. So I guess we'll keep monitoring them and whenever all the deps of a package are ready, we can then attempt to rebuild it? 2024-06-17 13:17:31 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Oh, and the moment, FTI bugs may also imply FTBFS, right? 2024-06-17 13:17:41 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I saw some discussion on the #python:fedoraproject.org channel I think? 2024-06-17 13:18:05 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Actually, that will happen automatically as soon as all bugs another bug depends on are resolved. Not exactly sure how Miro does it, but he keeps kicking off builds. 2024-06-17 13:18:49 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Yes. It's pretty confusing. I'd prefer the destinction between FTI and FTBFS would be kept clear. 2024-06-17 13:19:19 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> ah cool, that's good 2024-06-17 13:19:43 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Yes. It's pretty confusing. I'd prefer the distinction between FTI and FTBFS would be kept clear. 2024-06-17 13:20:00 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Yeh, me too. I understand that stuff can be FTI because it's FTBFS, but then I'd probably prefer it marked as FTBFS first 2024-06-17 13:20:30 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Lots of F41FTI/FTBFS bugs. Please do keep checking periodically to see if any of them can be fixed. 2024-06-17 13:21:10 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I also noticed that numpy v2.x has just been released, and that's causing lots of stuff to break too 2024-06-17 13:21:15 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> not in Fedora yet, though 2024-06-17 13:21:36 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but our upstream CI has begun barfing errors, so we've had to temporarily pin stuff to `numpy<2.0.0` 2024-06-17 13:21:53 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info numpy v2.x was released yesterday: expect stuff to break when it gets to Fedora! 2024-06-17 13:24:59 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> The other packages look fine. The usual updates, and long standing issues 2024-06-17 13:25:00 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I'm afraid a lot of upstreams will do that. I've seen lots of deprecation warnings regarding NumPy. Some of those will now break stuff for sure. 2024-06-17 13:25:30 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Yeh, definitely, but it can't be helped. There's always a delay when these critical packages change API/ABI 2024-06-17 13:25:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I think the one holding us back for now is pytables 2024-06-17 13:26:07 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info pytables doesn't work with numpy v2.x: https://github.com/PyTables/PyTables/issues/1083 2024-06-17 13:26:19 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Well, I wish those deprecation warnings would be getting the upstream attention they deserve in time. They are there for a reason. 2024-06-17 13:26:34 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> +1 2024-06-17 13:26:54 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> i wonder if numpy2.x in Fedora will be done as a change? 2024-06-17 13:26:58 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> let's see 2024-06-17 13:27:25 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> It looks our hand will be forced. 2024-06-17 13:27:39 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> It looks like our hand will be forced. 2024-06-17 13:28:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Looks like a lot of upstream packages have fixed their bits: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/26191 2024-06-17 13:29:46 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> pytables is just not one of them .. 2024-06-17 13:30:06 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/26191 2024-06-17 13:30:15 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Nice overview. Let's see how things pan out downstream. 2024-06-17 13:30:33 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Your fingers can't keep up with your thoughts! Time for a BCI implant? :P 2024-06-17 13:31:21 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Exactly. But what's a BCI? 2024-06-17 13:31:42 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> "brain computer interface" 2024-06-17 13:32:00 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> nah just gotta train the fingers to go faster 2024-06-17 13:32:04 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> learn dvorak or something? /s 2024-06-17 13:32:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> XD 2024-06-17 13:32:11 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh, gtypist helps 2024-06-17 13:32:24 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I'd rather not become a living AI... 2024-06-17 13:32:26 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> (or did back in the day) 2024-06-17 13:32:59 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I also seem to type phonetically, misspelling words. 2024-06-17 13:34:01 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh, happens to me sometimes too 2024-06-17 13:34:15 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Package reviews check 2024-06-17 13:35:00 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro 2024-06-17 13:35:33 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Ah, we do have 9 reviews waiting for reviewers 2024-06-17 13:35:49 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info 9 reviews are waiting for reviewers 2024-06-17 13:36:00 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action neuro-sig: please review these if you have the time 2024-06-17 13:36:19 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action submitters: please consider requesting review-swaps on the -devel lists/channels too 2024-06-17 13:37:27 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> `pybbi` is a new dependency for `bioframe`. 2024-06-17 13:38:03 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'll put that through fedora-review now 2024-06-17 13:38:38 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Thanks! 2024-06-17 13:39:14 <@blackwell:fedora.im> !hi 2024-06-17 13:39:35 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> hi Jason Blackwell ! zodbot isn't replying at the mo :( 2024-06-17 13:40:00 <@blackwell:fedora.im> Understandable 😌 2024-06-17 13:40:02 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Comp Neuro ISO generation check 2024-06-17 13:40:07 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691 2024-06-17 13:40:19 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Currently broken, probably because of all our FTI/FTBFS bugs 2024-06-17 13:40:47 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Yeh: https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/6159/119136159/mock_output.log 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(pillow) >= 9.1 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(notebook-shim) < 0.3~~ with python3.12dist(notebook-shim) >= 0.2) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyter-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyter-server) >= 2.4) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) >= 2.27.1) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tornado) >= 6.2 needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(notebook-shim) < 0.3~~ with python3.12dist(notebook-shim) >= 0.2) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: Problem 3: conflicting requests 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(async-lru) >= 1 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(httpx) >= 0.25 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(ipykernel) >= 6.5 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - 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nothing provides python3.12dist(ipykernel) >= 6.5 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(jinja2) >= 3.0.3 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(jupyter-lsp) >= 2 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,455: - nothing provides python3.12dist(notebook-shim) >= 0.2 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tornado) >= 6.2 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python3.12dist(packaging) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python3.12dist(jupyter-core) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python3.12dist(traitlets) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyter-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyter-server) >= 2.4) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,456: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) >= 2.27.1) needed by jupyterlab-4.2.1-1.fc41.noarch from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> ``` 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> ``` 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: Problem 1: conflicting requests 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - 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nothing provides python3.12dist(pillow) >= 9.1 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(scipy) >= 1.9 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tifffile) >= 2022.8.12 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(packaging) >= 21 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,453: - nothing provides python3.12dist(numpy) >= 1.23 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(imageio) >= 2.33 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(lazy-loader) >= 0.4 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(networkx) >= 2.8 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(scipy) >= 1.9 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tifffile) >= 2022.8.12 needed by python3-scikit-image-0.23.2-1.fc41.x86_64 from koji-override-0 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: Problem 2: conflicting requests 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python(abi) = 3.12 needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyter-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyter-server) >= 2.4) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides (python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) < 3~~ with python3.12dist(jupyterlab-server) >= 2.27.1) needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> 2024-06-17 07:30:31,454: - nothing provides python3.12dist(tornado) >= 6.2 needed by python3-notebook-7.2.0-1.fc41.noarch from anaconda 2024-06-17 13:41:24 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Not a lot we can do here at the moment 2024-06-17 13:41:39 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Gotta sit that one out. 2024-06-17 13:41:53 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Neuroscience query of the week 2024-06-17 13:42:11 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'll have a quick look at the planets to see if anything new is up 2024-06-17 13:42:17 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/planet-neuroscientists/ 2024-06-17 13:42:25 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/planet-neuroscience/ 2024-06-17 13:42:49 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Not neuro, but interesting nevertheless: https://www.quantamagazine.org/ai-needs-enormous-computing-power-could-light-based-chips-help-20240520/ 2024-06-17 13:43:11 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> could perhaps be used in computational neuroscience for more efficient simulation of models I guess 2024-06-17 13:43:49 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> For folks in the northern hemisphere: https://theconversation.com/summertime-can-be-germy-a-microbiologist-explains-how-to-avoid-getting-sick-at-the-barbecue-in-the-pool-or-on-the-trail-231794 2024-06-17 13:44:15 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> A piece on the second law of thermodynamics: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/celebrating-second-law-thermodynamics 2024-06-17 13:44:57 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> One from the great folks at retractionwatch: https://retractionwatch.com/2024/06/14/expression-of-concern-coming-for-paper-some-used-to-link-covid-19-vaccines-to-deaths/ 2024-06-17 13:45:06 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Why Northern hemisphere? They do have summer time in the Southern hemisphere as well. 2024-06-17 13:45:25 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yes, but not now :) 2024-06-17 13:45:52 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> For folks interested in quantum stuff: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/earth-rotation-quantum-entanglement 2024-06-17 13:45:57 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Indeed. They simply get sich because of the cold weather. 2024-06-17 13:46:03 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Indeed. They simply get sick because of the cold weather. 2024-06-17 13:47:14 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> One on chronic pain from the excellent Women in Neuroscience folks: https://womeninneuroscience.wixsite.com/winuk/post/bridging-the-gap-katelynn-boerner 2024-06-17 13:48:27 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> A final one on long COVID: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/long-covid-universal-definition 2024-06-17 13:48:32 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> there are more, do please take a look 2024-06-17 13:49:01 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Next meeting day, and chair 2024-06-17 13:49:09 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Same time in 2 weeks folks? 2024-06-17 13:49:35 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !agreed Next meeting in 2 weeks at same time: 1300 UTC 2024-06-17 13:49:46 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Open floor 2024-06-17 13:49:56 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> We have 10 minutes for anything else that wasn't covered in the agenda 2024-06-17 13:50:14 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> nothing here 2024-06-17 13:51:33 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I can't think of anything either, but I think I need a post lunch coffee to wake my brain up a bit.. 2024-06-17 13:52:07 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> likewise 2024-06-17 13:53:46 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Cool, let's close the meeting and use the remaining time to get coffee/tea :) 2024-06-17 13:54:01 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> If there's anything at all folks, please drop into #neuro:fedoraproject.org ---we're always there :) 2024-06-17 13:54:06 <@blackwell:fedora.im> Agreed thanks for hosting! 2024-06-17 13:54:13 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> thanks for coming everyone :) 2024-06-17 13:54:29 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> uh, no zodbot, no cookies :( 2024-06-17 13:54:31 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> thanks for running 2024-06-17 13:55:02 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !endmeeting