#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:00:34

!startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2024-09-09

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

13:00:35

Meeting started at 2024-09-09 13:00:34 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

13:00:35

The Meeting name is 'NeuroFedora - 2024-09-09'

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:00:40

!meetingname neurofedora

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

13:00:40

The Meeting Name is now neurofedora

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:00:44

!group list neuro-sig

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:00:44

● sponsors <groupname> - Return a list of owners of the specified group

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:00:44

● members <groupname> - Return a list of members of the specified group

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:00:44

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:00:44

**Usage:** !group <subcommand> [...]

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:00:44

● info <groupname> - Return a list of owners of the specified group

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:00:50

!group members neuro-sig

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:00:52

Members of neuro-sig: Ali Erdinc Koroglu, alciregi, Ankur Sinha, bt0dotninja, fangq, Sandro ., Igor Raits, ilgrad, iztokf, lbazan, Aniket Pradhan, Benjamin Beasley, sagitter, sergiopr, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:00:58

!group sponsors neuro-sig

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:00:59

Sponsors of neuro-sig: Ankur Sinha, gicmo, Sandro ., Igor Raits, lbazan, Benjamin Beasley, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:02:20

!link https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2024/08/23/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-09-september-1300-utc.html

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:02:29

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:02:31

Sandro . (gui1ty)

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:02:33

!topic New introductions and roll call

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:02:34

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:02:35

Ankur Sinha (ankursinha) - he / him / his

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:03:51

let's wait a bit

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:04:47

!topic Tasks from last week

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:04:56

!link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-08-12/neurofedora.2024-08-12-13.00.html

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:05:56

!info Ankur update bokeh: PR here builds, needs merging and building: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-bokeh/pull-request/1

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:06:18

wait, that's a year old now?

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:06:42

hrm, I'd better re-check it

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:06:54

!action Ankur re-check bokeh PR and update for new versions

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:08:03

!info Ankur fix dipy FTBFS: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2280596 -> DONE (upstream fixed things and music pushed the update): https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-8cb173e4e9

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:09:06

!info Ankur update dcmtk (also fixes CVEs): WIP here, running impact check, needs to be merged and stuff built: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dcmtk/pull-request/10

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:09:32

!action Ankur merge dcmtk PR and build deps

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:13:29

!action Ankur fix remaining vxl issues and get new version to build: still WIP

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:13:46

!topic Open pagure tickets

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:13:54

!link https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:14:03

!info No new tickets

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:14:12

!topic Packages health check

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:14:16

!link https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:15:57

!info MUSIC is orphan impacted: MUSIC -> openmpi -> pmix

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:16:40

hopefully someone will take it up otherwise I'll have to take it up

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:16:50

`arbor` and `auryn` too

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:17:34

yeh, everything depending on openmpi basically

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:17:38

I missed that totally

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:17:38

`nest`, `neuron`...

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:17:55

I guess orion/scitech SIG will probably take it up and we can help

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:18:22

I'm not sure if the maintainer announced it, and if they did, I missed it

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:18:36

but it'll come up in the broken deps etc. reports and so on

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:18:40

I don't remember an announcement either.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:19:03

thing is one can't search the ML archives at the moment, so I can't check if it was sent

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:19:17

I'll just re-send it

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:21:12

As far as my mailbox history goes back, no announcement for `pmix` nor `dcmtk`.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:23:52

Any other bits that need an urgent look?

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:24:12

Nothing I'm aware of.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:24:13

Is it ppft that's blocking a bunch of things for py3.13?

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:24:29

dill?

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:24:38

It's `dill`.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:25:08

https://github.com/uqfoundation/dill/issues/654 -> seems optimistic

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:25:14

thanks music for nudging upstream

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:25:16

Upstream promised a fix soon.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:25:20

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:25:34

!info dill upstream is going to fix dill soon, hopefully this week: https://github.com/uqfoundation/dill/issues/654

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:25:57

Cool, other packages are fine, the usual new releases and so on

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:26:11

!info Packages are doing well, usual new releases and so on.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:26:24

!topic Open package reviews check

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:26:29

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:26:40

Once `dill` is fixed all our packages we care for should be fine.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:27:56

!info 7 reviews need reviewers!

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:28:52

I'll see if I can review a few more 🐍make plugins.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:29:38

I'm reviewing bids-schema now

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:29:53

I'll take up meshio after

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:30:37

we recently added functionality to the NeuroML 3D viewer to spit out mesh data in files too, so meshio is probably quite useful for us, or will be at some point

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:32:29

!action all neurosig-members: please help out with package reviews

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:32:43

!topic CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 40/rawhide.

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:32:50

I believe I picked `meshio` from an open ticket. Can't remember.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:32:56

!link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:33:38

can't see a ticket for it---maybe a dep of some other package?

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:34:01

!info CompNeuro ISO is building fine

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:34:15

!topic Neuroscience of the week

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:34:23

let's take a quick look at the planets

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:35:06

Could be. Though, I haven't marked it as such. Maybe the one it's for is still WIP. I lost track of my packaging efforts a bit...

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:35:51

Not neuroscience, but interesting nevertheless: https://theconversation.com/how-gravitational-waves-could-help-detect-star-trek-style-warp-drive-spaceships-237261

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:38:14

This is relevant: https://womeninneuroscience.wixsite.com/winuk/post/bugs-brain-the-role-of-gut-brain-axis-in-neurological-disorders

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:38:38

!info "Gut-brain axis and neurological disorders": https://womeninneuroscience.wixsite.com/winuk/post/bugs-brain-the-role-of-gut-brain-axis-in-neurological-disorders

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:40:25

!info New book on AI: AI Snake Oil explores the power and limits of AI today and in the future -> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/ai-snake-oil-how-to-spot-hype

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:41:41

that's all I see on the planet

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:42:00

!topic Next meeting date, time, host

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:42:09

In 2 weeks on 23 September, same time?

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:42:27

no objections

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:42:46

!info Next meeting on 23 September at 1300 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org , Ankur will host

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:42:50

!topic Open floor

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:42:57

18 minutes for anything else

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:44:12

I was wondering if we need to so anything for `pyswarms` to get retired. More info in the bug.

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:44:16

!bug 2291879

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:44:18

RHBZ#2291879 (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2291879): [python-pyswarms]: F41FailsToInstall: python3-pyswarms

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:44:35

I was wondering if we need to do anything for `pyswarms` to get retired. More info in the bug.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:45:29

Iztok has said they don't have time to maintainer their packages, right?

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:45:42

Yeah.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:46:10

If upstream has also indicated that they aren't going to be actively developing/maintaining pyswarms, i say we let it go

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:46:30

Can we remove neuro-sig from the package though? I think only Iztok can..

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:46:35

(primary maintainer)

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:46:48

I'm kinda hoping the Python 3.13 tooling will retire it eventually. But it was assigned at some point to prevent exactly that.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:47:14

Let's let the tooling retire it

<@gui1ty:fedora.im>

13:48:01

I see no option for removing us. But that shouldn't matter as long as it gets retired.

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:49:51

!info we're going to let pyswarms go -> let tooling retire it. Upstream has indicated they may not maintain it

<@music:fedora.im>

13:50:53

!hello

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

13:50:53

Benjamin Beasley (music) - he / him / his

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:55:51

Cool, if there's nothing else, let's close the meeting and continue in #neuro:fedoraproject.org

<@ankursinha:fedora.im>

13:55:53

!endmeeting