#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:02:17

!startmeeting Fedora Community Blog Editor Roundtable - 2024-10-23

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:02:17

Meeting started at 2024-10-23 15:02:17 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

15:02:17

The Meeting name is 'Fedora Community Blog Editor Roundtable - 2024-10-23'

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:02:41

!link https://hackmd.io/@fedora-marketing-team/rJJXxxE66

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:02:47

!topic Intros, welcomes, hellos

<@mattdm:fedora.im>

15:02:47

yeah

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:02:51

!info Welcome to the Community Blog editor roundtable. If you are attending, please introduce yourself by typing "!hi" in the chat. See the meeting agenda at the link below.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:02:56

!link https://hackmd.io/@fedora-marketing-team/rJJXxxE66

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:02:59

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:03:00

Justin W. Flory (jflory7) - he / him / his

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:03:06

Hey folks 👋

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:03:07

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:03:08

Aoife Moloney (amoloney)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:03:13

Who is here for the CommBlog roundtable?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:03:16

Hey Aoife Moloney 👋

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:03:20

Long time no see :P

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:05:10

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:05:14

Adrian Edwards (moralcode)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:05:19

I am dropping a few pings around to see who might be here today.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:05:23

Howdy Adrian Edwards 👋

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:05:51

!group members community-blog

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:05:53

Members of community-blog: Aoife Moloney, bt0dotninja, jflory7 (@jflory7:fedora.im, @fca:fedoraproject.org), Oluwakanyinsola Obadeyi, lenkaseg, Matthew Miller, Consolation Obazee, Roseline Bassey, Sumantro Mukherjee, Akashdeep Dhar, Oluwatosin Olatunji, Michal Konecny

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:06:09

Oh, we will need to update this list soon too 🙂

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:07:04

thx for the ping on slack - forgot to make my event from last week recurring haha

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:07:50

No worries! I have a calendar invite if you want me to add you to it.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:07:56

Well, we are seven minutes past.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:07:58

Let's get going!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:08:11

We have a :45 minute slot now.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:08:21

This should help us get through a bigger agenda.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:08:45

!info Present: @jflory7 @amoloney @moralcode

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:08:52

!topic Pending article review

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:08:57

!info What We Do: Review the pending queue of Community Blog articles and assign pending posts to an editor.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:09:02

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/workflows/community-blog-review/79

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:09:39

!info === "Q2 report for the Fedora DEI team" ===

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:09:40

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/review-publish-q2-report-for-the-fedora-dei-team/134433

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:09:49

I am putting this up first quickly because I can take it as an editor.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:10:01

I actually looked at it yesterday and took a pass, so I have worked with this already some

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:10:15

I could schedule it for tomorrow, Thursday, 23 October barring anything more urgent.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:10:29

If there are no objections, I will action myself and move to another article 🙂

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:10:41

does "more urgent" include stuff thats overdue from flock? :P

<@mrony:matrix.org>

15:10:44

Good morning

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:11:01

!action @jflory7 Edit and schedule "Q2 report for the Fedora DEI team" https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/review-publish-q2-report-for-the-fedora-dei-team/134433

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:11:20

mrony: Hello, welcome! Feel free to introduce yourself using our bot by typing `!hi`

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:11:31

Adrian Edwards: Hah 😝

<@mrony:matrix.org>

15:11:44

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:11:46

No Fedora Accounts users have the @mrony:matrix.org Matrix Account defined

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:12:04

Oh, you will need to link your Matrix ID `@mrony:matrix.org` to https://accounts.fedoraproject.org profile

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:12:11

Then the bot will recognize you in meetings :)

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:12:19

zodbot should really include this link int he auto message

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:12:22

But welcome! What is your FAS username?

<@mrony:matrix.org>

15:12:25

okk. will do that. thanks Justin

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:12:31

It is a good idea for a MR :)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:13:11

Well, we have three other articles ready for review today.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:13:21

We can start with the oldest ones and then work our way to the newest.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:13:40

!info === "Proposed change to Council policy re: Editions" ===

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:13:48

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/review-publish-proposed-change-to-council-policy-re-editions/132207

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:14:07

This is an article coming from the Fedora Project Leader and it is a timely announcement about a change to the project policy.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:14:20

So this one is an interesting one, because it is seeing some of the Fedora governance structure in action!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:14:31

This is a required step of the Fedora Policy Change Policy that the Council follows.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:14:37

It should be straightforward to edit.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:14:48

Are there any takers?

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:15:41

seems short enough - sure!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:16:04

Adrian Edwards: Awesome! Thanks. What timeline could you work on for this?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:16:20

The DEI Q2 update is timely, but this is more timely because a process is held up because of it.

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:16:40

am reading through it now as a first pass - is there anything i should be looking for?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:17:00

Not really. Just use https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/editor-guidelines/ as a checklist

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:17:18

i can prob go in and see what the wordpress bots say about it too, could prob do it by EOD

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:17:29

i can prob go in and see what the wordpress bots say about it too, could prob do it in the next few hrs or by EOD

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:17:52

Adrian Edwards: If you have capacity to edit, then let's prioritize your post. We will assign it to you and come back to the scheduling before the meeting ends :)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:18:16

!action @moralcode Edit and review "Proposed change to the Fedora Council policy for Edition promotion" article from @mattdm

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:18:41

!info === "CPE Update Q3 2024" ===

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:18:47

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/review-publish-cpe-update-q3-2024/133883

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:19:04

Aoife Moloney: Do you want the honor of editing the last-ever CPE Update? 😝

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:19:36

Justin W. Flory (he/him)it says your editing matts post rn

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:20:05

For folks reading the logs, this team at Red Hat was recently merged and will change its name officially soon. Many of our Fedora Quality Team folks are now joining the same team. More to come soon.

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:20:11

awww

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:20:13

Adrian Edwards: I just closed the tab, try now.

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:20:14

sure :)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:20:27

Aoife Moloney: Cool 😁

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:20:38

Aoife Moloney: Think we could target it for next Thursday probably?

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:20:49

not sure if its syncing. should i just hit "take over"?

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:20:50

yeah thats no problem

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:20:53

Then we can get the Infra & Releng article later on.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:21:04

Adrian Edwards: I think I closed the tabs, so feel free to take over my edit lock 👍️

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:21:06

avoid Tuesday 29th for now in case we can release :)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:21:23

Very good reminder

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:21:28

if we dont, I can pull the CPE one forward

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:21:38

!info REMEMBER: Avoid Tue, 29 October because it is F41 Release Day!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:21:55

OK. Before we approve the schedule…

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:21:59

We do have one more article on the docket.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:22:14

We have a busy queue, so it is not the end of the world if we don't get to it… but it should be an easy article to edit.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:22:39

!info === "Infra&Releng Quarterly Update Q3" ===

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:22:42

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/review-publish-infra-releng-quarterly-update-q3/133882

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:23:00

This is the last article pending review.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:23:10

mrony: Would you be interested in taking this one for an edit?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:23:56

You can tell us the preferred timeline: either for next Wednesday, 30 October, or Wednesday, 6 November.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:24:09

No pressure to take this though if you are not ready to jump in yet :)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:24:34

I am not sure if there any other eager editors here too, but this one is also up for grabs. I expect we will get more foot traffic closer to release day

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:24:42

Especially with the Editions discussion 😅

<@mrony:matrix.org>

15:25:11

Thanks for the offer Justin. But I think I need a little more time to be ready. may be next week. appreciated

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:25:20

No problem!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:25:27

Take it at your own pace :)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:25:33

# Call for editors on Infra&Releng Q3 update, going once…

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:25:52

# Call for editors on Infra&Releng Q3 update, going twice…

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:26:05

# Call for editors on Infra&Releng Q3 update, going thrice…

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:26:11

💥

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:26:19

We will come back to this one at the next roundtable.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:26:26

!topic Schedule planning

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:26:31

!info Review all the articles discussed previously. Determine the publishing schedule. Editors should either +1 or -1 the proposed schedule to ratify it.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:26:35

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/upcoming-community-blog-commblog-posts/10890

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:28:12

!proposed THU 24 OCT: Proposed change to Council policy re: Editions; FRI 25 OCT: Fedora DEI Team 2024 Q2 Report; THU 31 OCTOBER: CPE Update Q3 2024

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:28:33

That 31 October feels sorta unwise because, USA Halloween holiday… but maybe it is just a US thing :P

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:28:45

What do folks think of this proposed schedule? ^^

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:28:50

!group members community-blog

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:28:53

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:29:00

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:29:21

sounds good to me

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:29:27

also i think ive made all the edits i can to the council policy: editions post.

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:29:37

(mostly just moved some stuff around)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:29:38

Do it, do the +1 😎

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:29:46

+1 lol

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:29:47

Adrian Edwards++

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:29:49

jflory7 has already given cookies to moralcode during the F40 timeframe

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:30:02

Awesome!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:30:11

Do you know how to schedule something for the future in the WordPress site?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:30:28

Don't forget that the default time zone of the site is set to UTC, unless you change this in your user preferences.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:30:35

We generally schedule articles at 08:00 UTC.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:30:51

This is the nicest time for catching a global audience in as much of the working daylight time of the world

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:30:58

oh gosh timezones. my browser also messes with those a ton too

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:31:20

ideally id like someone to review my edits to make sure my logic makes sense

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:31:28

Adrian Edwards: Sure, I can help with that.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:31:40

Aoife Moloney: Schedule vote?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:32:01

!action @jflory7 Peer review @moralcode's edits on Council policy change article

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:32:04

oh sorry, was on another tab! /reading

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:32:29

Mindful of this 🤔

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:32:42

LGTM

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:32:54

LGTM == +1 :P

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:32:56

So, works for me

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:33:01

<@amoloney:fedora.im>

15:33:03

sorry :D

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:33:12

!agreed THU 24 OCT: Proposed change to Council policy re: Editions; FRI 25 OCT: Fedora DEI Team 2024 Q2 Report; THU 31 OCT: CPE Update Q3 2024

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:33:12

!action @jflory7 Peer review @moralcode's edits on Flock report for future publication :P

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:33:24

Thanks folks, it is official!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:33:39

🫣

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:33:41

Yeah.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:33:45

You are right.

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:33:55

we can deal with both of those during 1:1 tho

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:34:00

!topic Author Q&A

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:34:20

!info If an article author is present, this is a chance for them to ask questions to the editors about their post.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:34:20

Are there any CommBlog authors here who want to chat with the editor team?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:35:01

# Author Q&A: Going once…

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:35:15

# Author Q&A: Going twice…

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:35:31

# Author Q&A: Going thrice…

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:35:45

💥

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:35:50

!topic Administravia

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:35:55

!info Administrative decisions to content, organization, and strategy. This is not about articles but about structure and organization of the CommBlog itself.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:36:13

There was a project I wanted to pitch in this part of the meeting.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:36:18

Especially since we have an influx of new editors.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:36:27

We have a big backlog of various, incomplete drafts: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:37:09

Some of them are likely no longer relevant, and could be deleted. Others, however, may still have value and we should contact the authors of the posts to decide whether the author wishes to move forward with an incomplete article.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:37:25

This can be a good activity during slower weeks when there is not as much editing content

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:37:43

But it also an easy thing for someone to do, even for one draft, to contact the original author and check in with them

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:37:50

Some may not even remember writing the article

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:38:03

But it is always good practice to check with the author first before trashing their content

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:38:10

Anyways, that is my project pitch.

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:38:20

does wordpress allow multiple authors

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:38:28

If anyone wants to help out with an article or two in the backlog, feel free to take a look. 🙂

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:38:46

Adrian Edwards: The Fedora Magazine has a plugin which does this, but I don't think the Community Blog has it installed.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:38:57

!link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:39:12

or something like that? i feel like as an editor id want to get a final review from the person whose name is going to be on the post to make sure the edits are okay with them

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:39:20

or something like that? i feel like as an editor id want to get a final review from the person whose name is going to be on the post to make sure the edits are okay with them

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:39:27

i feel like as an editor id want to get a final review from the person whose name is going to be on the post to make sure the edits are okay with them

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:39:30

!info @jflory7 pitches a "good first issue" for reviewing incomplete, old drafts and following up with authors of good articles about whether they wish to complete or discard their draft.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:40:07

Adrian Edwards: Usually you can share a public preview link with the author, so they can take a look and double-check any changes before publishing.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:40:13

Admittedly, your timeline is tighter… for tomorrow :)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:40:17

But the article is very short.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:40:23

So I wouldn't worry too much about it.

<@moralcode:fedora.im>

15:40:34

yeah im less worried about the editions one than the flock one

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:40:40

You are welcome to add a byline at the bottom of the article, "_Edited by Adrian Edwards (@moralcode)_"

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:41:07

I will work on some of my CommBlog backlog soon.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:41:30

OK. Last four minutes.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:41:31

!topic Open floor

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:41:35

!info Topics and all other business that did not fit in elsewhere in the meeting agenda.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:41:44

Do folks have any other topics for today? Or shall we adjourn?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:41:56

!group members community-blog

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

15:41:58

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:42:29

mrony: When you feel ready to take on a project, make sure you come and say hi over in #marketing:fedoraproject.org room too 🙂

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:42:55

Once folks get a couple of articles under their belt, we will officially onboard new editors into the group 💪

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:43:38

There is not a whole lot of new business that can be done in 90 seconds :)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:43:46

I am going to yield the channel for the next meeting.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:43:50

Thanks folks for being here!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:43:54

See you next time! 👋

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

15:43:57

!endmeeting