2024-11-12 15:03:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora CommOps Team Meeting
2024-11-12 15:03:05 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-11-12 15:03:04 UTC
2024-11-12 15:03:05 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora CommOps Team Meeting'
2024-11-12 15:03:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !meetingname commops
2024-11-12 15:03:10 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now commops
2024-11-12 15:03:19 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> !hi
2024-11-12 15:03:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Adrian Edwards (moralcode)
2024-11-12 15:03:23 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-11-12 15:03:23 <@rwright:fedora.im> !hi
2024-11-12 15:03:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Robert Wright (rwright) - he / him / his
2024-11-12 15:03:25 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> !hi
2024-11-12 15:03:26 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-11-12 15:03:27 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
2024-11-12 15:03:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Agenda
2024-11-12 15:03:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info (1) Intros, welcomes, hellos
2024-11-12 15:03:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info (2) Team announcements & news
2024-11-12 15:04:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info (3) Initiative Co-Lead updates to the team
2024-11-12 15:04:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info (4) Follow-ups from last meeting
2024-11-12 15:04:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info (5) Ticket-driven discussion
2024-11-12 15:04:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info (6) Open floor
2024-11-12 15:04:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Intros, welcomes, hellos
2024-11-12 15:04:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> If this is your first time at a CommOps Team meeting, please say hello!
2024-11-12 15:04:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> If you have questions before we start the meeting, now is also a good time to ask.
2024-11-12 15:04:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !hi
2024-11-12 15:04:26 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Justin W. Flory (jflory7) - he / him / his
2024-11-12 15:04:30 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> hello hello, good morning all
2024-11-12 15:04:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh wow, we have a very nice quorum today! :)
2024-11-12 15:04:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hey folks!
2024-11-12 15:04:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Good to see lots of familiar names today!
2024-11-12 15:05:08 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> uh, is there a schedule overlap?
2024-11-12 15:05:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright: Oh. Is there? 😬
2024-11-12 15:05:43 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> i probably just suck at timezones
2024-11-12 15:05:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I have the CommOps meeting for here now
2024-11-12 15:05:47 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> yep, i do.  ignore me :)
2024-11-12 15:05:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But there are like, three rooms for this slot in Fedocal
2024-11-12 15:06:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> All good! No worries :)
2024-11-12 15:06:13 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> risc sig meeting is in an hour.  i was an hour off :)
2024-11-12 15:06:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Well, it is good to know we have a hard stop today :)
2024-11-12 15:06:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Present: @moralcode @rwright @neil @jflory7 @jonathanspw
2024-11-12 15:07:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright: Although, it is funny, but I was actually meaning to track you down if Aoife does not get to you first :)
2024-11-12 15:07:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We are going to chat about exactly this.
2024-11-12 15:07:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's go ahead and get started.
2024-11-12 15:07:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Team announcements & news
2024-11-12 15:07:38 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> :o !  She emailed me about valkey.  you were copied I think
2024-11-12 15:08:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info === The Fedora Linux 41 Global Watch Parties will take place on Friday, which is a new approach to how we produce and execute the virtual Release Parties. Registration is now open for the three major time zone regions of the world. ===
2024-11-12 15:08:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://rsvp.fedoraproject.org/releases/f41-apac/
2024-11-12 15:08:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://rsvp.fedoraproject.org/releases/f41-emea/
2024-11-12 15:08:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://rsvp.fedoraproject.org/releases/f41-latam-na/
2024-11-12 15:08:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And cookies for this go to misc and Adrian for all the help with Pretix and the Matrix bots!
2024-11-12 15:08:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> misc++
2024-11-12 15:08:55 <@zodbot:fedora.im> No Fedora Accounts users have the @misc:ephaone.org Matrix Account defined
2024-11-12 15:08:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian++
2024-11-12 15:08:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jflory7 gave a cookie to moralcode. They now have 15 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 41 release cycle
2024-11-12 15:09:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, new cookiessssss 🍪
2024-11-12 15:09:21 <@rwright:fedora.im> Adrian++ misc ++
2024-11-12 15:09:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> rwright gave a cookie to moralcode. They now have 16 cookies, 2 of which were obtained in the Fedora 41 release cycle
2024-11-12 15:09:32 <@rwright:fedora.im> misc++
2024-11-12 15:09:33 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> i might need to babysit the bot still but its running on personal infra again
2024-11-12 15:09:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> No Fedora Accounts users have the @misc:ephaone.org Matrix Account defined
2024-11-12 15:09:40 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> still need to test it in the rooms tho
2024-11-12 15:09:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info === "Looking back at Flock to Fedora 2024" ===
2024-11-12 15:09:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/looking-back-at-flock-to-fedora-2024/
2024-11-12 15:10:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This event report was late (because of me), but it is finally out and live.
2024-11-12 15:10:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info === "Proposed change to the Fedora Council policy for Edition promotion" ===
2024-11-12 15:10:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/proposed-change-to-the-fedora-council-policy-for-edition-promotion/
2024-11-12 15:10:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And this one is new policy from the Fedora Council. Sharing just as a FYI.
2024-11-12 15:10:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> <eof>
2024-11-12 15:10:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyone else have other announcements to add in?
2024-11-12 15:11:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> No problem. Thanks for all your help with this Adrian! Even as officially a community contributor now too 😝
2024-11-12 15:11:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> (Context is that Adrian's Red Hat internship ended last week 🥲)
2024-11-12 15:11:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> (But he will be back full-time in June 2025 after finishing up the degree 😎)
2024-11-12 15:12:18 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## Announcements, going once…
2024-11-12 15:12:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## Announcements, going twice…
2024-11-12 15:12:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## Announcements, going thrice…
2024-11-12 15:12:51 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> oh theres an organizers room for the f41 party #F41-production:fedora.im
2024-11-12 15:12:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 💥
2024-11-12 15:12:56 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> if people want to join that
2024-11-12 15:13:14 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> ive been infodumping in there with useful stuff
2024-11-12 15:13:24 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> (mostly links to the regional chat rooms)
2024-11-12 15:13:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Fedora CommOps Initiative Co-Lead updates to the team
2024-11-12 15:13:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian: Thanks! Yes, we should coalesce around that. I just favorited the room.
2024-11-12 15:13:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Robert Wright (he/him): Howdy hey. Anything you want to drop here? :)
2024-11-12 15:13:57 <@rwright:fedora.im> It contains a file per day of data that I've preparsed with data from the bus to extract FAS IDs. I will share the Python files on GitLab shortly, but I wanted to get the data up today.
2024-11-12 15:13:57 <@rwright:fedora.im> 2024-07-29 23:59:48,014ee981-b122-4346-8be1-0b5af13685be,org.fedoraproject.prod.buildsys.untag,music
2024-11-12 15:13:57 <@rwright:fedora.im> sent_at,id,topic,username
2024-11-12 15:13:57 <@rwright:fedora.im> Example header:
2024-11-12 15:13:57 <@rwright:fedora.im> 
2024-11-12 15:13:57 <@rwright:fedora.im> If you have the Message Bus data set from above in the Digital Ocean storage I shared, check out the user_parsed_2024 folder for a new dataset with parsed data.
2024-11-12 15:14:13 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> nice!
2024-11-12 15:14:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info If you have the Message Bus data set from above in the Digital Ocean storage I shared, check out the user_parsed_2024 folder for a new dataset with parsed data. It contains a file per day of data that I've preparsed with data from the bus to extract FAS IDs. I will share the Python files on GitLab shortly, but I wanted to get the data up today.
2024-11-12 15:14:32 <@rwright:fedora.im> I am also happy to show that we can now produce fun reports like Orbit Report's Love style report. The Jupyter notebooks for this will be published shortly.
2024-11-12 15:14:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Example header: sent_at,id,topic,username 2024-07-29 23:59:48,014ee981-b122-4346-8be1-0b5af13685be,org.fedoraproject.prod.buildsys.untag,music
2024-11-12 15:14:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Robert Wright (he/him): OMQ whaaaaaat?!?
2024-11-12 15:14:50 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> ope my client didn't scroll. nice was for @Adrian and his ft offer! :)
2024-11-12 15:15:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Errrr mah gerd
2024-11-12 15:15:01 <@rwright:fedora.im> Yeah JWF (he/him) I have been busy... ;)
2024-11-12 15:15:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 🤯
2024-11-12 15:15:22 <@rwright:fedora.im> Anyways. Enough from me. I'll share more in the main channel later on with details.
2024-11-12 15:15:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Well-deserved :D
2024-11-12 15:15:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Super excited to see more!!
2024-11-12 15:15:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Robert Wright (he/him)++ Nice work!
2024-11-12 15:15:40 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jflory7 gave a cookie to rwright. They now have 15 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 41 release cycle
2024-11-12 15:16:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Ticket-driven discussion
2024-11-12 15:16:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Please hold while I do this GitLab reauthentication
2024-11-12 15:17:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This one, I propose just this ticket for today :) https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/issues/46
2024-11-12 15:17:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyone else have something they want to propose?
2024-11-12 15:17:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Speak now or hold your peace :)
2024-11-12 15:18:21 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i haven none left to hold
2024-11-12 15:18:33 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i have none left to hold
2024-11-12 15:18:51 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> peace was never an option
2024-11-12 15:19:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Well, then it sounds like the peaceful option is only to party.
2024-11-12 15:19:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Ticket #46: "Fedora Linux 41 Release Party - main tracker ticket"
2024-11-12 15:19:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/issues/46
2024-11-12 15:19:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, the TL;DNR on what is new is laid out here: https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/issues/46#note_2192327055
2024-11-12 15:19:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It is a bit of a mouthful.
2024-11-12 15:19:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And because of the late timing, it will still likely be bumpy.
2024-11-12 15:20:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But I am really, really excited about this.
2024-11-12 15:20:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> As a new way for running these virtual events.
2024-11-12 15:20:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But, I could also use some help too.
2024-11-12 15:20:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian: is doing awesome work with setting up our Matrix infra for the Friday watch parties.
2024-11-12 15:20:39 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am getting a lot of video footage pulled from various folks in the community, and some people are already pre-recording on their own.
2024-11-12 15:20:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> One thing I could use help on is editing the videos for publication.
2024-11-12 15:21:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Another thing I could use help on is writing a CommBlog announcement for the watch parties and introducing the new format.
2024-11-12 15:21:11 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> i could maybe do basic editing
2024-11-12 15:21:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Another thing I could use help with is testing the Matrix YouTube widget with a playlist and seeing if we can watch a playlist of videos synchronously, or if we have to do it one by one
2024-11-12 15:21:42 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> do we have a timeline of what needs to happen (all standardized to one timezone)? like when does the stream need to be edited in order to hit APAC on time
2024-11-12 15:21:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Basic, basic editing is all we need. And with the thumbnail script you made too. It would be straightforward.
2024-11-12 15:22:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 10:00 AM IST on Friday is the first launch.
2024-11-12 15:22:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, Thursday night US Eastern basically
2024-11-12 15:22:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I'm sorry 😭
2024-11-12 15:22:23 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> i really doubt this - IMO one livestream is probably better
2024-11-12 15:22:40 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We don't have coverage for the APAC timezones is the thing
2024-11-12 15:22:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Because the old model for parties relied exclusively on one person (me) to run through everything
2024-11-12 15:23:00 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> do we have a shared gdrive or something for the video clips we have so far?
2024-11-12 15:23:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> To have multiple accounts with access to our YouTube requires an enterprise plan that I don't have budget for
2024-11-12 15:23:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yes, I believe Aoife has one.
2024-11-12 15:23:27 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I can maybe blackmail Brian Clemens to help with APAC stuff fwiw
2024-11-12 15:23:37 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> can you make sure my personal accoutns have access to that?
2024-11-12 15:24:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian: Can do. RIT email?
2024-11-12 15:24:12 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> i might try and just edit everything into one single video that we can livestream or run as a youtube premiere
2024-11-12 15:24:18 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> my icloud. ill signal it to you
2024-11-12 15:24:33 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I think the single video approach makes sense
2024-11-12 15:24:47 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> just can add bookmarks for future watching
2024-11-12 15:25:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian: If you could edit it into a single video… TBH that would be amazing.
2024-11-12 15:25:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I will add you 👍️
2024-11-12 15:26:06 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> i can do my best with whatever i get access to (hence the gdrive and stuff)
2024-11-12 15:26:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We can debut the video at APAC time, and then reuse it for the different watch party times on Matrix.
2024-11-12 15:26:31 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> IMO given the time crunch it may be easier to KISS - maybe the planned live intros need to be recorded too
2024-11-12 15:26:44 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> yep if it's all in one, then we don't need the same support
2024-11-12 15:26:49 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> i could maybe do slight customizations per region if you wanted a different intro to the stream per-region
2024-11-12 15:26:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Actually, mattdm and Aoife Moloney were just talking about this, and we will pre-record after all. We have a slot planned for tomorrow to do this.
2024-11-12 15:27:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> If we had three weeks instead of one, yes. But since we are in the week crunch, don't stress.
2024-11-12 15:27:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's KISS :)
2024-11-12 15:27:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Err, you know what I mean
2024-11-12 15:27:26 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> lol
2024-11-12 15:27:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That acronym is awkward without context lol
2024-11-12 15:27:50 <@rwright:fedora.im> And the curse of acronyms strikes back.
2024-11-12 15:27:51 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> hah
2024-11-12 15:27:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyways!
2024-11-12 15:28:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian: I will sync with you on the raw footage.
2024-11-12 15:28:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> When do you need it by?
2024-11-12 15:28:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Can I send it late on Wednesday?
2024-11-12 15:29:07 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> tomorrow will probably be the best day i have to hit this hard so ideally if i have things by EOD or early tmrw morning that would be good
2024-11-12 15:29:38 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> tomorrow will probably be the best day i have to hit this hard so ideally if i have things by EOD today or early tmrw morning that would be good
2024-11-12 15:29:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK. I can get you the majority of the content today.
2024-11-12 15:30:47 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> do we have a CFP out? or some indication of schedule?
2024-11-12 15:30:56 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> like what clips we want in what order?
2024-11-12 15:31:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @jflory7 Add Adrian to the shared folder with video recordings
2024-11-12 15:31:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @jflory7 Add today's recordings to the shared folder
2024-11-12 15:32:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian: There will be opening remarks that I will record tomorrow with Matthew and Aoife.
2024-11-12 15:32:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That should be first.
2024-11-12 15:32:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> The rest, though…
2024-11-12 15:32:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think any order is fine.
2024-11-12 15:33:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This is one more pending thing that I think realistically, I will not have time to do
2024-11-12 15:33:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am going to an in-person release party on Thursday with bookwar and @renekuhn, which all ended up being this week of course :D
2024-11-12 15:34:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Does anyone want to <del>ask ChatGPT to</del> write the blog post 
2024-11-12 15:34:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Does anyone want to <del>ask ChatGPT to</del> write the blog post?
2024-11-12 15:34:36 <@rwright:fedora.im> I LOVE USING GPT. But someone else can.
2024-11-12 15:34:56 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> lol thats what i was thinking about too - worry about putting content out this quickly tho, esp with commblog review processes
2024-11-12 15:35:05 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> lol thats what i was thinking about too - worry about putting content out this quickly tho, esp with  likely accelerated commblog review processes
2024-11-12 15:35:17 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> does fedora have a channel where we can post more YOLO content?
2024-11-12 15:35:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> If it does not happen… it is not the end of the world. Ideally, we will do these things earlier. But fortunately, one of the big values of this new approach is the content we get _after_ the fact. And being more intentional about sharing and using it during the release cycle period.
2024-11-12 15:35:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We can use informal channels like Fedora Discussion, Fedora Chat / #news:fedoraproject.org, etc.
2024-11-12 15:36:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It is 1.5 hours of synchronous time for people to join, so it is not the huge commitment like 5-6 hours was before.
2024-11-12 15:37:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> My point here being, let's not be too discouraged if the turnout is low this time, but if we like this format, we will hone it like a craft and become experts at pulling this off in time for F42/F43.
2024-11-12 15:37:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am excited that this new format evolves the Release Parties into something easier to execute and also will hopefully have more post-event value
2024-11-12 15:37:24 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> if you want to first pass it, go for it. i can also just speech-to-text some stuff i make up on the spot as well. i dont think we have time to wait for someone to commit, so just do what you can IMO
2024-11-12 15:37:32 <@rwright:fedora.im> We should also think to make it available on start.fedoraproject.org some day too for people with default startup pages.
2024-11-12 15:37:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian: I am mindful that you have taken a lot on your plate already, and now I can't even use the excuse that we are paying you to do it anymore :P
2024-11-12 15:37:53 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> its possible to put a small annoucnement on the fp.o homepage
2024-11-12 15:38:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Between these two things, I value your time the most on the video execution
2024-11-12 15:38:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This is a big skill gap for me
2024-11-12 15:38:16 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> yeah im trying not to over-commit haha
2024-11-12 15:38:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And it takes you way less time than it takes me
2024-11-12 15:38:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, for you, I think it is best to just focus on the video production aspect
2024-11-12 15:38:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It would help me a looooooot 🙏
2024-11-12 15:38:36 <@rwright:fedora.im> If someone gives me an action, I can write it (read as "GPT it") today.
2024-11-12 15:38:37 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> maybe we can rope in some of the newer commblog editors and stuff
2024-11-12 15:39:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Robert Wright (he/him): You can probably use my GitLab <del>essay</del> comment as input.
2024-11-12 15:39:20 <@rwright:fedora.im> Kk - just an announcement that the event is this Friday?
2024-11-12 15:39:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Robert Wright (he/him): If you could tackle that, it would really, really, really help a lot.
2024-11-12 15:39:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And I will even help you with the outline
2024-11-12 15:40:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 4. Hope to see you there!
2024-11-12 15:40:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 1. Intro: Announcing the F41 Global Watch Parties
2024-11-12 15:40:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 2. Date/Time/Place and links to register on Pretix / rsvp.fedoraproject.org
2024-11-12 15:40:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 3. Introducing the new format and why we make this change (a la, my GitLab comment)
2024-11-12 15:40:25 <@rwright:fedora.im> deal
2024-11-12 15:41:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @rwright Create a CommBlog draft to announce the F41 Global Watch Parties and share for review with editors today
2024-11-12 15:41:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This is actually great, because the CommBlog editor roundtable is tomorrow
2024-11-12 15:41:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So if you get it done today and posted for review, then we will be able to get an editor on it right away tomorrow
2024-11-12 15:41:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK… I feel this plan coming together :)
2024-11-12 15:42:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I know it is chaotic this time :D But who said a little bit of chaos couldn't be a little bit fun too?
2024-11-12 15:42:27 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> isnt chaos like... your entire job description at this point?
2024-11-12 15:42:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 🌚
2024-11-12 15:42:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Iterative progress is my slogan :)
2024-11-12 15:42:45 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> (and prob every other maintainer/community architect)
2024-11-12 15:43:25 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> speaking of chaos(s) - are there metrics  we want to use this year to measure stuff?
2024-11-12 15:43:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am trying to think if there are other bases to cover.
2024-11-12 15:43:37 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> i could prob grab stream viewership like i did for FLock
2024-11-12 15:43:46 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> speaking of chaos(s) - are there metrics  we want to use this year to measure party success?
2024-11-12 15:43:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian: I imagine the metrics will be slim pickings this time. But generally, over time, using the Pretix event registrations as a key metric is part of this strategy
2024-11-12 15:44:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And we can understand regional trends better by separating out the time zones
2024-11-12 15:44:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But no live-stream this time.
2024-11-12 15:44:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> TBH, I don't get a lot of value from stream metrics alone today
2024-11-12 15:44:38 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> live stream = video premiere
2024-11-12 15:44:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Maybe one day, it will be different
2024-11-12 15:44:46 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> im using the terms loosely
2024-11-12 15:44:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Ah. I have never tried this before, so if we can get an easy metric, then sure
2024-11-12 15:45:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But it will likely be skewed to one time zone which is actually awake during the premiere
2024-11-12 15:45:29 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> yeah, ill figure out what the least terrible way to do it is will def have the content be availabel three times
2024-11-12 15:45:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I mean, don't stress too much about this. I am content with having one video to premier on YouTube, and then driving engagement through Matrix
2024-11-12 15:46:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Ultimately, Matrix is where we want to drive people more than YouTube / live streams / etc.
2024-11-12 15:46:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I know those channels are important
2024-11-12 15:46:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But when we bring someone into Matrix, we have a higher probability of activating them as a contributor
2024-11-12 15:46:27 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> yeah
2024-11-12 15:46:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Because this is our world here on Matrix :P
2024-11-12 15:46:48 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> small content thing: maybe we can derive a youtube description from robers commblog post
2024-11-12 15:46:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, the metrics that I care about are Pretix + Matrix, anything these platforms can give us
2024-11-12 15:46:59 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> to promote the matrix for anyone seeing this through youtube notification
2024-11-12 15:47:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yep, for sure
2024-11-12 15:47:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Time check!
2024-11-12 15:47:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We have 13 minutes left.
2024-11-12 15:47:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anything else urgent to spend on the party?
2024-11-12 15:47:39 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Or should we shift to open floor?
2024-11-12 15:47:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I want to make sure we have an on-time finish today, since the RISC-V folks are right behind us :)
2024-11-12 15:49:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> No objections means consent :)
2024-11-12 15:49:18 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> I'd be curious what people's availability is over the next few days, in case I need something last minute
2024-11-12 15:49:24 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> I.e. for the party
2024-11-12 15:50:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Adrian: My life is crazy. I am around but I am on a bus to Berlin on Thursday for an in-person event, and then a bus back home on Friday morning. So, I will have capacity to work on this, but it will be hard to predict my working hours from Thursday onward.
2024-11-12 15:50:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But I am here on Wednesday
2024-11-12 15:50:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Just in UTC+1
2024-11-12 15:50:56 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> And/or if there's anything I can do to enable other people to do stuff as well.
2024-11-12 15:51:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> These are good questions to ask :)
2024-11-12 15:51:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think if folks can keep an eye on #commops:fedoraproject.org for opportunities to help and contribute, that would be amazing
2024-11-12 15:51:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We know Robert Wright (he/him) will pass the draft over to us today, which will be an important comms step
2024-11-12 15:52:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I will work on capturing the video recordings and getting them into a shared Drive
2024-11-12 15:52:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And Adrian, you have the video compilation and working with me on YouTube
2024-11-12 15:52:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think this is a good action plan
2024-11-12 15:52:41 <@rwright:fedora.im> Draft is done and loaded to Community Blog.
2024-11-12 15:52:47 <@rwright:fedora.im> I'll submit for review now.
2024-11-12 15:52:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Robert Wright (he/him): ❤️
2024-11-12 15:52:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Amazing. Thank yooooooou!
2024-11-12 15:53:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2024-11-12 15:53:18 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I will save these last seven minutes for all other business :)
2024-11-12 15:53:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks for spending this time with me on the Release Party.
2024-11-12 15:53:26 <@irradiated_lemming:matrix.org> Robert Wright (he/him)++
2024-11-12 15:53:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> moralcode gave a cookie to rwright. They now have 16 cookies, 2 of which were obtained in the Fedora 41 release cycle
2024-11-12 15:53:35 <@rwright:fedora.im> Haha. Ok - maybe I won't. The draft is there, but I can't sent to review, Denied. :)
2024-11-12 15:53:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And for being on-board my rollercoaster. I hope it will get more smooth next time. Iterative progress :)
2024-11-12 15:53:53 <@rwright:fedora.im> Oh nevermind, fixed.
2024-11-12 15:53:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Robert Wright (he/him): Weird. But make the Fedora Discussion post and we will take care of it.
2024-11-12 15:54:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/writing-community-blog-article/
2024-11-12 15:55:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK folks… anything else to discuss today?
2024-11-12 15:55:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Other than our Friday party? :)
2024-11-12 15:55:22 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> not I :) 
2024-11-12 15:55:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## CommOps meeting, going once…
2024-11-12 15:55:47 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> triple booked this morning but tried to follow along. I'm available to review and push things along, just ping me...
2024-11-12 15:56:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## CommOps meeting, going twice…
2024-11-12 15:56:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon: Thanks for raising your hand! Adrian or I may call upon you :)
2024-11-12 15:56:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## CommOps meeting, going thrice…
2024-11-12 15:56:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK folks!
2024-11-12 15:56:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 💥
2024-11-12 15:56:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This is a wrap!
2024-11-12 15:56:33 <@rwright:fedora.im> 👋
2024-11-12 15:56:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks for being here :)
2024-11-12 15:56:39 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And see ya next time!
2024-11-12 15:56:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !endmeeting