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# #meeting:fedoraproject.org: Ad Hoc Council meeting about the proven packager process and recent FESCo decision on proven packager rights removal
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Meeting started by @amoloney:fedora.im at 2024-12-18 16:10:54



Meeting summary
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* TOPIC: Roll Call (@amoloney:fedora.im, 16:11:18)
    * INFO: We just concluded a brief video call to discuss the situation. dcantrell filled us in on the background from his perspective, and @mattdm added some other notes (@mattdm:fedora.im, 16:13:15)
    * ACTION: ffmancera volunteered to compile a factual timeline of events and the decision (@mattdm:fedora.im, 16:13:34)
    * INFO: We avoided making any decisions -- we just wanted to understand the situation. now we're in this meeting for transparency before making any actual decisions. (@mattdm:fedora.im, 16:14:47)
* TOPIC: Discuss and decide, where appropriate, action items regarding this topic (@amoloney:fedora.im, 16:16:03)
    * AGREED: Council asks that FESCo's decision to revoke Peter Robinson's proven packaging privileges should be put on hold (that is, being given back for now) until the Council completes our investigation. (@mattdm:fedora.im, 16:30:21)
    * INFO: Jason Brooks abstains, noting that he doesn't see an urgency to staying or reverting the decision (@mattdm:fedora.im, 16:30:44)
    * INFO: As he is also a FESCo member, David Cantrell abstains from the Council vote (@mattdm:fedora.im, 16:38:22)
    * ACTION: mattdm to open a ticket to FESCo following this meeting making councils request (@amoloney:fedora.im, 16:39:23)
    * ACTION: ffmancera will conduct a review of proven packager policy and the apparent violation of such and subsequent decision to remove packaging rights of those in apparent violation (@amoloney:fedora.im, 16:40:15)
    * INFO: There is a lot more to unpack and learn from from this decision, and the Council and FESCo should find time to work together in 2025 to solutionize a better way of handling sensitive and impactful issues for the projecet (@amoloney:fedora.im, 16:41:36)
    * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3305 (@mattdm:fedora.im, 16:41:37)

Meeting ended at 2024-12-18 16:42:47

Action items
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* ffmancera volunteered to compile a factual timeline of events and the decision 
* mattdm to open a ticket to FESCo following this meeting making councils request 
* ffmancera will conduct a review of proven packager policy and the apparent violation of such and subsequent decision to remove packaging rights of those in apparent violation 

People Present (lines said)
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* @amoloney:fedora.im (30)
* @mattdm:fedora.im (29)
* @zodbot:fedora.im (22)
* @asamalik:fedora.im (12)
* @jbrooks:matrix.org (10)
* @conan_kudo:matrix.org (8)
* @salimma:fedora.im (7)
* @decathorpe:fedora.im (6)
* @bookwar:fedora.im (6)
* @ffmancera:fedora.im (5)
* @dcantrell:fedora.im (3)
* @rwright:fedora.im (3)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (2)