2025-01-08 18:00:09 <@pboy:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora-server
2025-01-08 18:00:10 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-01-08 18:00:09 UTC
2025-01-08 18:00:11 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora-server'
2025-01-08 18:00:15 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic Welcome / roll call
2025-01-08 18:00:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> As usual, let's wait a moment  for everybody to show up.
2025-01-08 18:00:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes.
2025-01-08 18:00:55 <@eseyman:fedora.im> .hello
2025-01-08 18:01:08 <@eseyman:fedora.im> !hello
2025-01-08 18:01:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) - he / him / his
2025-01-08 18:01:37 <@pboy:fedora.im> Hi Emmanuel!
2025-01-08 18:02:06 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Hello, Peter
2025-01-08 18:04:09 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> !hello
2025-01-08 18:04:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Paul Maconi (aggraxis) - he / him / his
2025-01-08 18:04:21 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Hi, Paul
2025-01-08 18:04:30 <@pboy:fedora.im> Hm, we are a bit short of members. But let's start anyway. Maybe one or the other will be late.
2025-01-08 18:04:39 <@pboy:fedora.im> Oh, Welcome Paul!
2025-01-08 18:04:52 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic Agenda
2025-01-08 18:05:03 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Follow-up actions & announcements
2025-01-08 18:05:12 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service
2025-01-08 18:05:22 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Server user poll
2025-01-08 18:05:31 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Revisiting Fedora Server quality criteria and procedures
2025-01-08 18:05:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Work program and goals
2025-01-08 18:05:55 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Open Floor
2025-01-08 18:06:05 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anythnig to add? 
2025-01-08 18:06:23 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I'm good
2025-01-08 18:06:26 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK. let's start 
2025-01-08 18:06:35 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 1. Follow-up actions & announcements
2025-01-08 18:06:45 <@pboy:fedora.im> no new open actions.
2025-01-08 18:06:52 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/
2025-01-08 18:07:05 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anything to add here?
2025-01-08 18:07:23 <@pboy:fedora.im> Regarding FOSDEM at Bruessels Feb. 1 and 2:
2025-01-08 18:07:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> o far, Emmanuel and I will be at FOSDEM. Just in case someone else is considering to participate. 
2025-01-08 18:07:52 <@pboy:fedora.im> So far, Emmanuel and I will be at FOSDEM. Just in case someone else is considering to participate. 
2025-01-08 18:08:14 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I'm guessing there will be a Fedora booth
2025-01-08 18:08:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> Yes, there is!
2025-01-08 18:08:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> Our ambassadors are working on it
2025-01-08 18:08:53 <@eseyman:fedora.im> and 'Distributions' track
2025-01-08 18:09:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> Yes, Fedora people are quite engaged in it.
2025-01-08 18:09:48 <@pboy:fedora.im> nirik: Are you in Brussels too, by chance?
2025-01-08 18:10:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nope, sorry... not gonna make it this time
2025-01-08 18:10:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but I think there will be lots of other fedorans there...
2025-01-08 18:11:00 <@eseyman:fedora.im> ah, that's a pity
2025-01-08 18:11:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> Yeah, would have been a good opportunity
2025-01-08 18:11:35 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK,, let's move on
2025-01-08 18:11:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic  2. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service
2025-01-08 18:11:52 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138
2025-01-08 18:12:01 <@pboy:fedora.im> 10 mins max
2025-01-08 18:12:33 <@pboy:fedora.im> We are missing John today. But is there any new?
2025-01-08 18:12:57 <@pboy:fedora.im> We have been dealing with this issue for quite some time. 
2025-01-08 18:13:03 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I had completely forgotten about this, to focus on my openldap role
2025-01-08 18:13:37 <@pboy:fedora.im> Good, then let's get straight on 
2025-01-08 18:13:49 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 3. Server user poll
2025-01-08 18:14:00 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/145
2025-01-08 18:14:08 <@pboy:fedora.im> about 15  mins max
2025-01-08 18:14:16 <@pboy:fedora.im> See:
2025-01-08 18:14:41 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> I filled out a survey. :)
2025-01-08 18:14:42 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I plan to send an email tomorrow to the mailing list encouraging people to fill in the survey
2025-01-08 18:14:50 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-server-user-survey-your-cattle-or-your-pets/
2025-01-08 18:16:01 <@pboy:fedora.im> Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): Thumbs up, but I don't find the icon in the list here  :-) 
2025-01-08 18:17:12 <@pboy:fedora.im> I wrote an email to Justin, if we can get an interim result. I hope we will get some information soon.  
2025-01-08 18:17:59 <@pboy:fedora.im> Emmanuel Seyman: Yes! I think it is very important to advocate the poll. 
2025-01-08 18:19:02 <@pboy:fedora.im> JWF (he/him): Are you online, by chance????
2025-01-08 18:20:10 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, obviously not.
2025-01-08 18:20:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> Let's move on.
2025-01-08 18:20:34 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic  4. Revisiting Fedora Server quality criteria and procedures
2025-01-08 18:20:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/63
2025-01-08 18:21:46 <@pboy:fedora.im> I think, we should do that step by step or service by service. And we should start with a service where Ansible support is ready.
2025-01-08 18:21:54 <@pboy:fedora.im> I think we need a service without too many unresolved issues. That's what's been holding us back with both Wildfly and NFS so far.
2025-01-08 18:22:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> Maybe, we should make another try with Web Service?
2025-01-08 18:22:38 <@pboy:fedora.im> I startet to modify our documentation.
2025-01-08 18:22:49 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic-setup/
2025-01-08 18:23:38 <@pboy:fedora.im> It is now more oriented towards Ansible steps. And there are no problems with the software that could hinder us. 
2025-01-08 18:24:00 <@pboy:fedora.im> What do you think?
2025-01-08 18:24:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Sort of yes, sort of no. In a hospital 😕
2025-01-08 18:24:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I can answer anything quick 
2025-01-08 18:24:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I did see your email about the survey 
2025-01-08 18:24:40 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I will follow up soon 
2025-01-08 18:24:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Sorry for butting in abruptly. 
2025-01-08 18:24:57 <@pboy:fedora.im> Or sorry! Did you get my mail from earlier todcay?
2025-01-08 18:25:38 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> Oof. Sorry to hear that.
2025-01-08 18:26:15 <@pboy:fedora.im> JWF (he/him): I wish you a speedy recovery! 
2025-01-08 18:26:38 <@pboy:fedora.im> And we'll wait for your follow up.
2025-01-08 18:27:41 <@pboy:fedora.im> And for now let's continue with our quality process. JWF (he/him) Good luck!!
2025-01-08 18:29:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I did see that. Will respond today. Maybe tomorrow in your time zone.
2025-01-08 18:29:27 <@pboy:fedora.im> Many thanks!
2025-01-08 18:29:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks, I am just chaperoning
2025-01-08 18:29:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I appreciate the well wishes 
2025-01-08 18:30:51 <@pboy:fedora.im> Yeah, chaperoning is also an important and serious matter.
2025-01-08 18:31:10 <@pboy:fedora.im> and nothing "just"  :-)
2025-01-08 18:34:45 <@pboy:fedora.im> Any thoughts on the revised article? Or on the suggestion to start with Web Service and to edit NFS/Wildfly as soon as we have solved the technical issues? 
2025-01-08 18:35:15 <@pboy:fedora.im> Any thoughts on the revised article? Or on the suggestion to start with Web Service and to continue with NFS/Wildfly as soon as we have solved the technical issues? 
2025-01-08 18:35:51 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I need to sit down, read it and let it sink in
2025-01-08 18:36:59 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK. I'm still working on it. And I think I will details various parts tomorrow.
2025-01-08 18:37:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> So let's think about it and continue next meeting.
2025-01-08 18:37:33 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic  5. Work program and goals
2025-01-08 18:37:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> No Issue yet
2025-01-08 18:38:17 <@pboy:fedora.im> We can only discuss this in detail once we have the results of our poll.
2025-01-08 18:39:16 <@pboy:fedora.im> But maybe we can clarify who would like to develop what? 
2025-01-08 18:40:05 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I'm going to wait for the results to the survey before deciding anything
2025-01-08 18:41:46 <@pboy:fedora.im> Ok, then we should postpone this generell topic until the evaluation of the poll is complete.
2025-01-08 18:43:16 <@pboy:fedora.im> Perhaps at the next session, we should look at the open work projects and consider how we want to continue working on them and possibly bring them to a conclusion.
2025-01-08 18:43:43 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anything else here?
2025-01-08 18:44:06 <@eseyman:fedora.im> We have PRs on our repository
2025-01-08 18:44:43 <@pboy:fedora.im> checking ...
2025-01-08 18:45:09 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Mind you, both of them are trivial fixes
2025-01-08 18:45:45 <@pboy:fedora.im> Yes, I see. Will deal with them tomorrow.
2025-01-08 18:46:00 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Sorry, my bad. 4 PRs
2025-01-08 18:46:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> And we have some issues. I'll look at them, too.
2025-01-08 18:47:30 <@pboy:fedora.im> Unfortunately, the notification doesn't work with pagure. I hope this will improve with forgejo / gitea. 
2025-01-08 18:48:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> So, let's switch to next topic.
2025-01-08 18:48:23 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 6. Open Floor 
2025-01-08 18:48:39 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anything to discuss here?
2025-01-08 18:49:18 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I am very much looking forward to FOSDEM but that's pretty much it
2025-01-08 18:50:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> And I am happy that we are getting to know each other personally, which unfortunately did not work out last year.
2025-01-08 18:50:52 <@pboy:fedora.im> at FLOCK
2025-01-08 18:52:26 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, I suppose we can close for. I can't remember us ever finishing so early. Usually we ran over. So a First at the first meeting this year :-) 
2025-01-08 18:52:36 <@pboy:fedora.im> 3
2025-01-08 18:52:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> 2
2025-01-08 18:52:56 <@eseyman:fedora.im> good evening, all. I will probably not be there for the next meeting
2025-01-08 18:53:03 <@pboy:fedora.im> 1
2025-01-08 18:53:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> !endmeeting