2025-01-10 17:02:07 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora ELN SIG
2025-01-10 17:02:09 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-01-10 17:02:07 UTC
2025-01-10 17:02:09 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora ELN SIG'
2025-01-10 17:02:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !meetingname ELN
2025-01-10 17:02:21 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now ELN
2025-01-10 17:02:30 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Init process
2025-01-10 17:02:32 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-10 17:02:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Stephen Gallagher (sgallagh) - he / him / his
2025-01-10 17:02:36 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2025-01-10 17:02:38 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2025-01-10 17:04:48 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> just pinged some more people
2025-01-10 17:06:24 <@davide:cavalca.name> Michel is at a doctor appointment and will be late
2025-01-10 17:07:09 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok well I guess we'll start, not sure what we can do with just us
2025-01-10 17:07:17 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic New meeting time
2025-01-10 17:07:32 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi 
2025-01-10 17:07:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2025-01-10 17:07:46 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> this is not a good time for meetings in general, and definitely not for me personally
2025-01-10 17:08:01 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I would like to see if we could find another time for this, and to make it weekly
2025-01-10 17:08:18 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> to that end, if you haven't already, if you could please fill in https://whenisgood.net/td44ayx
2025-01-10 17:08:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info Looking for new meeting time
2025-01-10 17:09:01 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://whenisgood.net/td44ayx
2025-01-10 17:09:32 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> any questions about this?
2025-01-10 17:09:43 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Do you want to make the results public?
2025-01-10 17:09:54 <@davide:cavalca.name> I have voted
2025-01-10 17:09:54 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> (I think I responded, but I don't remember for certain)
2025-01-10 17:10:06 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I don't see a response from you
2025-01-10 17:11:31 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> moving along then
2025-01-10 17:11:40 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic New SIG member
2025-01-10 17:12:27 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info Johnny Hughes will be joining the SIG
2025-01-10 17:12:32 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/216
2025-01-10 17:12:37 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> 🥳
2025-01-10 17:13:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Johnny is a long-time CentOS contributor (understatement)
2025-01-10 17:13:15 <@davide:cavalca.name> oh sweet, strong +1 from me
2025-01-10 17:13:33 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> and will be helping with packages
2025-01-10 17:13:40 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Understatement indeed. Johnny and CentOS were practically synonyms for quite a few years
2025-01-10 17:15:19 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> doesn't seem like he could make it today, but I hope that a new meeting time will also allow him to attend more regularly.
2025-01-10 17:16:15 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Tickets
2025-01-10 17:16:27 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues
2025-01-10 17:17:38 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info all tickets have been tagged, assignees reset, and those finished or not happening have been closed
2025-01-10 17:18:30 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> my goal here is to really use this as our issue tracker, at least until forgejo comes
2025-01-10 17:18:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-10 17:18:55 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2025-01-10 17:19:09 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> at that point, hopefully there will be some effort to consolidate Fedora projects in one place, and we can re-assess then
2025-01-10 17:20:27 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> going forward, at least part of each meeting I plan to spend on reviewing tickets and such
2025-01-10 17:21:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anything to discuss about tickets in general?
2025-01-10 17:21:45 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> (please don't make me do all the talking here 😁
2025-01-10 17:22:34 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> don't everyone speak at once...
2025-01-10 17:23:06 <@davide:cavalca.name> nothing from me, between holidays and perf reviews haven't had a ton of time to work on eln lately, but hopefully that'll change soon
2025-01-10 17:23:21 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Sorry I had a contractor show up early...
2025-01-10 17:23:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> np
2025-01-10 17:24:19 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> I'm sitting in a car dealership while my car is getting fixed, so my attention is split.
2025-01-10 17:25:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> I had a PR that I have not checked but it might be merged already
2025-01-10 17:26:11 <@salimma:fedora.im> Running errands before a family trip tomorrow, sorry
2025-01-10 17:26:35 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok then, let's start going through tickets, I'll start with the oldest, we can get back to that
2025-01-10 17:26:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> Oh it's still open https://github.com/minimization/content-resolver-input/pull/1342
2025-01-10 17:27:38 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> see my response there
2025-01-10 17:28:14 <@davide:cavalca.name> oh yeah we still need to sort that one out
2025-01-10 17:28:44 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> yes that would be good and ASAP, the Meta workload is broken because of that
2025-01-10 17:30:13 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'll take a look today after this crop of meetings
2025-01-10 17:31:00 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !action Davide to fix rpmdistro-repoquery dependencies in rawhide and ELN Extras
2025-01-10 17:31:13 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Ticket queue
2025-01-10 17:31:53 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> starting with the oldest this time, please speak up at any time
2025-01-10 17:32:01 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/11
2025-01-10 17:33:05 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> The status page represented there has long ceased operation and the more updated one (built into EBS) hasn't been syncing to the public location for a while
2025-01-10 17:33:47 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> (The internal shell host it was relying on got decommissioned)
2025-01-10 17:35:24 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> is there any reason why EBS needs to be internal?
2025-01-10 17:36:06 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> One possible reason, yes.
2025-01-10 17:36:50 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> We don't have proper authn/authz functionality, so anyone could send a message to the rebuild-trigger endpoint
2025-01-10 17:37:13 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> right
2025-01-10 17:37:24 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> It's not known to be harmful, other than submitting some useless builds that will get canceled
2025-01-10 17:37:44 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> But it's something we should probably protect in some way before we made the service open to the general internet
2025-01-10 17:37:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> oh yeah definitely
2025-01-10 17:38:26 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> would you mind creating a ticket for that with any relevant background?
2025-01-10 17:38:44 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> (If we were hosting this atop a traditional web server like httpd, I could actually resolve that at the server config rather than the app code, but we're using OpenShift)
2025-01-10 17:38:52 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Yeah, I can do that
2025-01-10 17:39:07 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !action Stephen to file ticket about steps needed to make EBS public
2025-01-10 17:40:05 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> until then, we still should see if it's possible to set up a sync from EBS?
2025-01-10 17:40:59 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Yeah, I just need to find a shell host somewhere and rsync it out to my fedorapeople.org space again
2025-01-10 17:42:38 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> maybe your space isn't the best place anymore though?
2025-01-10 17:42:52 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> No, but it's where other stuff is linked to for now
2025-01-10 17:44:35 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !action Stephen to restart the syncing of the status page from EBS
2025-01-10 17:44:42 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anything else on that?
2025-01-10 17:45:01 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> nope
2025-01-10 17:45:16 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> I need to run; they're finishing up with my car
2025-01-10 17:45:29 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok thanks!
2025-01-10 17:45:31 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/19
2025-01-10 17:46:52 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> supposedly we still don't have AWS images, apparently waiting on David Duncan to do that
2025-01-10 17:47:09 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I've tried pinging in the ticket, so far no response
2025-01-10 17:48:33 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> moving on then
2025-01-10 17:48:38 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/30
2025-01-10 17:50:44 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> we've add ELN scratch builds for rawhide PRs for a while, but there is still a request to run dist-git tests too
2025-01-10 17:52:32 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> not exactly sure what that would entail
2025-01-10 17:54:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> as we're running out of time, one more I want to cover today
2025-01-10 17:54:28 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Upcoming mass rebuild
2025-01-10 17:54:54 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info F42 mass rebuild starts next week, with ELN+Extras to follow once merged
2025-01-10 17:55:39 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info a new GCC version is due, so many FTBFS are expected
2025-01-10 17:55:53 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/200
2025-01-10 17:56:43 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> one issue that we're having with mass rebuilds is that it creates too many simultaneous updates and overwhelms openQA
2025-01-10 17:57:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info plan is to change EBS to create one update per batch (rather than one per build) but will not be ready in time for this rebuild
2025-01-10 17:58:14 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !action Yaakov will let AdamW know in advance and he'll either ratelimit or disable openQA for ELN during that time
2025-01-10 17:59:12 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> but after that we do want to get that fixed, the only catch being that bodhi may not be able to handle an update with thousands of packages, so we'll need two code paths
2025-01-10 17:59:45 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anything on that?
2025-01-10 17:59:59 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2025-01-10 18:00:08 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anything else to discuss today?
2025-01-10 18:01:09 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> in that case...
2025-01-10 18:01:13 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> thank you all for coming, I look forward to working more with you all going forward, and hopefully we can find a better meeting time for everyone
2025-01-10 18:01:59 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !endmeeting