<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:18
!startmeeting fedora-server
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
18:00:19
Meeting started at 2025-01-29 18:00:18 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
18:00:19
The Meeting name is 'fedora-server'
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:00:26
!hi
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:26
!topic Welcome / roll call
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
18:00:27
Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) - he / him / his
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:35
As usual, let's wait a moment for everybody to show up.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:00:35
I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:01:10
nirik: yeah, and as usual great!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:05:35
OK, a small group of participants today. But maybe one or the other will be late. Let's start. In any case, we have met the quorum.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:05:50
!topic Agenda!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:05:58
!info Follow-up actions & announcements
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:06:08
!info Server user poll
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:06:17
!info Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:06:25
!info Ansible assisted installation and configuration of WEB service
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:06:34
!info Open Floor
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:06:44
Anything to add?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:07:02
OK, Let's start
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:07:11
!topic 1. Follow-up actions & announcements
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:07:29
As usual, no new open actions.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:07:38
See
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:07:39
!link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:07:39
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:07:51
Anything to add here?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:08:24
Obviously not. let's go on
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:08:30
!topic 2. Server user poll
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:08:39
!link **https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/145**
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:08:46
I have promoted the poll ui
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:08:53
Emanuel and I were in contact with Justin yesterday. We will meet at FOSDEM and get our first insight and access to the data. So we should know more at the next meeting.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:09:31
I have promoted the poll in a sysadmin Discord. At least one person filled in the survey
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:10:45
I suppose, we will post first insight on the mailing list on Monday latest, but maybe earlier.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:11:40
question is, should do some additional promoting, e.g. on Fedora user list, on Discussion, or some other media.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:13:25
Maybe we should wait until we have some information about the current status at all.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
18:13:40
when does it close?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:13:57
I would like to know how many people have replied before deciding to communicate even more
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:14:12
We plan to close mid February. But we can let it run longer
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:15:20
Emmanuel Seyman: Agreed. In case of need, the two of us can start at the weekend if the number is too small.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:15:33
Indeed
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:16:02
Any further questions at the moment?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:16:37
OK, let's move on
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:16:49
!topic 3. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:17:02
!link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:17:21
!link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ANSAGBZNK4LN72OWJLGCD2AFNSFGPFKW/
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:17:39
We are missing John, unfortunately.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:18:12
I have had no time to work on this
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:18:59
And I am a bit lost at this point. What would be the next step? Should we just postpone?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:20:35
A while back, I reviewed the roles and suggested improvements. The next time is for me to implement the changes and submit a PR to John
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:21:07
Honestly, I think we've bitten off more than we can chew
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:21:39
I suspect we'ld be better off packaging existing roles instead of writing our own
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:22:17
and encouraging users to engage with upstream if they want bugfixes/improvements/...
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:23:43
I guess, the usual path is: We should use existing roles if something fits. But we definitely need a playbook that takes care of our server-specific things and then calls such roles if necessary.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:24:29
But maybe we should postpone that until John has time again.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:25:05
We have a similar problem with the next point. But this might be easier.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:25:45
OK, let's postpone and move on.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:25:55
!topic 4. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of WEB service
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:26:03
No issue yet
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:26:10
!link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/RMKV2JSIBEAAFKK66TY5FR3W7PV54ALL/
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:26:22
!link https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic-setup/
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:26:29
Hum... I completely forgot about this...
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:27:17
Well, we need to decide if we want to follow my proposed approach. That is customize / modify configs and provide templates.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:28:07
Or do we have other ideas or alternative. The current default installation is more or less unusable without a lot of modifications.
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:28:50
No alternate ideas... And I agreee about the Apache configuration
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:29:05
I will try and read that document this week
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:30:30
OK, may be we can discuss it over the weekend, too. I'm planning to write a Fedora Magazine article about that. Maybe, we can both write it together?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:30:46
OK, may be we can discuss it over the weekend, too. I'm planning to write a Fedora Magazine article about that. Maybe, we both can write it together?
<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:30:53
Sounds like a great idea
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:31:39
OK then. We wait until next week and if we have no other idea, we will proceed as proposed.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:31:47
Let's move on.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:31:59
!topic 5. Open Floor
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:32:07
Anything here?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:32:37
Maybe someone is lurking but would like to ask a question? Or need some information?
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:34:34
Well, I don't see any question, comment, ...
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:34:41
So I'll close.
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:34:44
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<@eseyman:fedora.im>
18:35:01
Bye, folks
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:35:07
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<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:35:14
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<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:35:31
Bye bye !!
<@pboy:fedora.im>
18:35:34
!endmeeting