2025-01-29 18:00:18 <@pboy:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora-server
2025-01-29 18:00:19 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-01-29 18:00:18 UTC
2025-01-29 18:00:19 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora-server'
2025-01-29 18:00:26 <@eseyman:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-29 18:00:26 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic Welcome / roll call
2025-01-29 18:00:27 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) - he / him / his
2025-01-29 18:00:35 <@pboy:fedora.im> As usual, let's wait a moment  for everybody to show up.
2025-01-29 18:00:35 <@pboy:fedora.im> I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes.
2025-01-29 18:01:10 <@pboy:fedora.im> nirik: yeah, and as usual great!
2025-01-29 18:05:35 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, a small group of participants today. But maybe one or the other will be late. Let's start. In any case, we have met the quorum.
2025-01-29 18:05:50 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic Agenda!
2025-01-29 18:05:58 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Follow-up actions & announcements
2025-01-29 18:06:08 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Server user poll
2025-01-29 18:06:17 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service
2025-01-29 18:06:25 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Ansible assisted installation and configuration of WEB service
2025-01-29 18:06:34 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Open Floor
2025-01-29 18:06:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anything to add?
2025-01-29 18:07:02 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, Let's start
2025-01-29 18:07:11 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 1. Follow-up actions & announcements
2025-01-29 18:07:29 <@pboy:fedora.im> As usual, no new open actions.
2025-01-29 18:07:38 <@pboy:fedora.im> See
2025-01-29 18:07:39 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2024/
2025-01-29 18:07:39 <@pboy:fedora.im>  
2025-01-29 18:07:51 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anything to add here? 
2025-01-29 18:08:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> Obviously not. let's go on
2025-01-29 18:08:30 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 2. Server user poll 
2025-01-29 18:08:39 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link **https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/145**
2025-01-29 18:08:46 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I have promoted the poll ui
2025-01-29 18:08:53 <@pboy:fedora.im> Emanuel and I were in contact with Justin yesterday. We will meet at FOSDEM and get our first insight and access to the data. So we should know more at the next meeting. 
2025-01-29 18:09:31 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I have promoted the poll in a sysadmin Discord. At least one person filled in the survey
2025-01-29 18:10:45 <@pboy:fedora.im> I suppose, we will post first insight on the mailing list on Monday latest, but maybe earlier.
2025-01-29 18:11:40 <@pboy:fedora.im> question is, should do some additional promoting, e.g. on Fedora user list, on Discussion, or some other media.
2025-01-29 18:13:25 <@pboy:fedora.im> Maybe we should wait until we have some information about the current status at all.
2025-01-29 18:13:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> when does it close?
2025-01-29 18:13:57 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I would like to know how many people have replied before deciding to communicate even more
2025-01-29 18:14:12 <@pboy:fedora.im> We plan to close mid February. But we can let it run longer
2025-01-29 18:15:20 <@pboy:fedora.im> Emmanuel Seyman: Agreed. In case of need, the two of us can start at the weekend if the number is too small.  
2025-01-29 18:15:33 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Indeed
2025-01-29 18:16:02 <@pboy:fedora.im> Any further questions at the moment? 
2025-01-29 18:16:37 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, let's move on
2025-01-29 18:16:49 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic  3. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service
2025-01-29 18:17:02 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138 
2025-01-29 18:17:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ANSAGBZNK4LN72OWJLGCD2AFNSFGPFKW/ 
2025-01-29 18:17:39 <@pboy:fedora.im> We are missing John, unfortunately. 
2025-01-29 18:18:12 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I have had no time to work on this
2025-01-29 18:18:59 <@pboy:fedora.im> And I am a bit lost at this point. What would be the next step? Should we just postpone? 
2025-01-29 18:20:35 <@eseyman:fedora.im> A while back, I reviewed the roles and suggested improvements. The next time is for me to implement the changes and submit a PR to John
2025-01-29 18:21:07 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Honestly, I  think we've bitten off more than we can chew
2025-01-29 18:21:39 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I suspect we'ld be better off packaging existing roles instead of writing our own
2025-01-29 18:22:17 <@eseyman:fedora.im> and encouraging users to engage with upstream if they want bugfixes/improvements/...
2025-01-29 18:23:43 <@pboy:fedora.im> I guess, the usual path is: We should use existing roles if something fits. But we definitely need a playbook that takes care of our server-specific things and then calls such roles if necessary. 
2025-01-29 18:24:29 <@pboy:fedora.im> But maybe we should postpone that until John has time again. 
2025-01-29 18:25:05 <@pboy:fedora.im> We have a similar problem with the next point. But this might be easier.
2025-01-29 18:25:45 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, let's postpone and move on. 
2025-01-29 18:25:55 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic  4. Ansible assisted installation and configuration of WEB service
2025-01-29 18:26:03 <@pboy:fedora.im> No issue yet
2025-01-29 18:26:10 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/RMKV2JSIBEAAFKK66TY5FR3W7PV54ALL/
2025-01-29 18:26:22 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic-setup/ 
2025-01-29 18:26:29 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Hum... I completely forgot about this...
2025-01-29 18:27:17 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, we need to decide if we want to follow my proposed approach. That is customize / modify configs and provide templates. 
2025-01-29 18:28:07 <@pboy:fedora.im> Or do we have other ideas or alternative. The current default installation is more or less unusable without a lot of modifications.
2025-01-29 18:28:50 <@eseyman:fedora.im> No alternate ideas... And I agreee about the Apache configuration
2025-01-29 18:29:05 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I will try and read that document this week
2025-01-29 18:30:30 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, may be we can discuss it over the weekend, too. I'm planning to write a Fedora Magazine article about that. Maybe, we can both write it together? 
2025-01-29 18:30:46 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, may be we can discuss it over the weekend, too. I'm planning to write a Fedora Magazine article about that. Maybe, we both can  write it together? 
2025-01-29 18:30:53 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Sounds like a great idea
2025-01-29 18:31:39 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK then. We wait until next week and if we have no other idea, we will proceed as proposed.
2025-01-29 18:31:47 <@pboy:fedora.im> Let's move on.
2025-01-29 18:31:59 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 5. Open Floor
2025-01-29 18:32:07 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anything here?
2025-01-29 18:32:37 <@pboy:fedora.im> Maybe someone is lurking but would like to ask a question? Or need some information? 
2025-01-29 18:34:34 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, I don't see any question, comment, ...
2025-01-29 18:34:41 <@pboy:fedora.im> So I'll close.
2025-01-29 18:34:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> 3
2025-01-29 18:35:01 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Bye, folks
2025-01-29 18:35:07 <@pboy:fedora.im> 2
2025-01-29 18:35:14 <@pboy:fedora.im> 1
2025-01-29 18:35:31 <@pboy:fedora.im> Bye bye  !!
2025-01-29 18:35:34 <@pboy:fedora.im> !endmeeting