2025-02-06 20:00:51 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !startmeeting ELN SIG 06 Feb 2025
2025-02-06 20:00:52 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-02-06 20:00:51 UTC
2025-02-06 20:00:52 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'ELN SIG 06 Feb 2025'
2025-02-06 20:01:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !meetingname eln
2025-02-06 20:01:03 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now eln
2025-02-06 20:01:10 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Init process
2025-02-06 20:01:58 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !hi
2025-02-06 20:01:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Troy Dawson (tdawson)
2025-02-06 20:03:06 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2025-02-06 20:03:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2025-02-06 20:03:26 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> hi Troy Dawson Neil Hanlon 
2025-02-06 20:04:34 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca Michel Lind 🎩 UTC-6 Conan Kudo are you around?
2025-02-06 20:04:46 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2025-02-06 20:04:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2025-02-06 20:05:16 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> great timing 😁
2025-02-06 20:05:57 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I guess we'll get started and hopefully the others will join us
2025-02-06 20:06:15 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic New business
2025-02-06 20:07:07 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info f42 branched on Tuesday, all ELN-related activities around that were completed, with the possible exception of resigning of packages with the new key
2025-02-06 20:07:30 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info composes are currently accepting both f42 and f43 sigs in the meantime
2025-02-06 20:07:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> resigning should be also all done. ;) should change pungi config to new key at your leasure.
2025-02-06 20:08:24 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> thanks nirik 
2025-02-06 20:09:05 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !action yselkowitz to update pungi config to use only the f43 signature key
2025-02-06 20:09:39 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info mass rebuild cleanup is continuing, still work to be done
2025-02-06 20:10:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link 70+ packages in ELN set are still F42FTBFS: https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/218
2025-02-06 20:10:29 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link 36 ELN Extras packages are still F42FTBFS: https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/219
2025-02-06 20:10:43 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link just a few ELN-specific build failures remaining: https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/221
2025-02-06 20:11:05 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> any questions or discussion on that?
2025-02-06 20:12:16 <@tdawson:fedora.im> It's looking much better than I expected.
2025-02-06 20:12:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> There's still some GCC 15 fallout to deal with, but progress is being made.
2025-02-06 20:14:27 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> one ELN-specific failure I wanted to call out: https://pagure.io/fedpkg/issue/589
2025-02-06 20:16:18 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anything further on any of this?
2025-02-06 20:17:51 <@tdawson:fedora.im> If I wanted to resubmit a build, how are we doing it nowdays?
2025-02-06 20:18:07 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> resubmit a build to ELN or rawhide?
2025-02-06 20:18:11 <@tdawson:fedora.im> ELN
2025-02-06 20:18:43 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Let's say I see that fedpkg scratch builds are now building, would I just submit the build to the ELN build target?  Is that ok?
2025-02-06 20:19:22 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> for a one-off build that doesn't need the whole bootstrapping that EBS does, that's fine (e.g. `fedpkg --release eln build`)
2025-02-06 20:20:13 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> if it's a bunch of packages or you do need everything that EBS provides, we have a way to re-trigger packages in EBS, but it's behind the firewall
2025-02-06 20:20:47 <@tdawson:fedora.im> OK
2025-02-06 20:21:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> any other new issues that anyone wants to raise today?
2025-02-06 20:21:28 <@tdawson:fedora.im> None from me
2025-02-06 20:22:27 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> in that case...
2025-02-06 20:22:33 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Old business
2025-02-06 20:23:26 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> going forward, I would like to spend some time reviewing existing tickets on our tracker, in the hope that we can start making some progress on (some of) them
2025-02-06 20:23:39 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/30
2025-02-06 20:24:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> another note, I wasn't aware or forgot, but eln cloud images should be available now for your cloud eln needs. Sorry we didn't note it when it was setup.
2025-02-06 20:25:22 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Very nice
2025-02-06 20:25:34 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info ELN cloud images are now available for testing in AWS and Azure
2025-02-06 20:26:00 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> the issue for that was closed accordingly, but thanks for reminding me to note it
2025-02-06 20:28:41 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> back to #30, what's left here is to add the running of dist-git tests on ELN for rawhide PRs (ELN scratch builds are already being done)
2025-02-06 20:30:27 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I'm not sure how exactly that would be implemented, unfortunately there is no link pointing as to how the scratch builds were enabled
2025-02-06 20:31:12 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm not even sure what dist-git tests are.  Miro seemed to know.
2025-02-06 20:31:39 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Are they seperate tests that reside in dist-git?
2025-02-06 20:32:05 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> let me find an example
2025-02-06 20:32:45 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> e.g. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/util-linux/pull-request/20
2025-02-06 20:33:45 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Oh, all those Zuul tests being done there.
2025-02-06 20:34:03 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> not every package has this, but those that enable Zuul CI, it runs various tests which can be defined in the repo (STI/FMF, although iiuc STI is deprecated?)
2025-02-06 20:34:22 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> along with running scratch builds, which is now does for eln alongside rawhide
2025-02-06 20:34:37 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Are those these tests - https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/util-linux/blob/rawhide/f/tests
2025-02-06 20:34:40 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> so the remaining request is to run those FMF tests on eln as well
2025-02-06 20:34:52 <@tdawson:fedora.im> ok, understood.
2025-02-06 20:36:02 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thats something I currently don't know how to implement.
2025-02-06 20:36:49 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> me neither
2025-02-06 20:37:13 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anybody else?
2025-02-06 20:38:03 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> moving along then
2025-02-06 20:38:52 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192
2025-02-06 20:39:41 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Oh, I didn't put my prototype background up there.
2025-02-06 20:40:14 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> so right now, we don't have any background wallpaper in ELN
2025-02-06 20:40:27 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> there are a few possible options listed there
2025-02-06 20:41:31 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Troy, you said you were going to work on this, and I think you we're making artwork just for ELN?
2025-02-06 20:41:45 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> (aka option 3)?
2025-02-06 20:42:11 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Yep, though it's possible people won't like it.
2025-02-06 20:42:38 <@tdawson:fedora.im> If people don't like it, I'd like going with Fedora's generic wallpaper.
2025-02-06 20:42:58 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But having our own, would make it very obvious that it isn't Fedora.
2025-02-06 20:45:08 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I also think having our own logos would be good, but I consider that secondary.
2025-02-06 20:45:43 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But, since we have our own logo ... it might be easier.
2025-02-06 20:45:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !idea we open up for submissions and vote in a couple weeks
2025-02-06 20:46:13 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> thoughts?
2025-02-06 20:46:58 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I like the idea, but I think I'll need 3 weeks to get the packages/backdrop/logos is respectable shape ... how about Feb 27 meeting.
2025-02-06 20:47:26 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anybody else want to get in on this?
2025-02-06 20:50:05 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> moved: submissions for ELN-specific artwork are now open at https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192 with voting three weeks hence (27 Feb)
2025-02-06 20:50:28 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> let's vote!
2025-02-06 20:51:23 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Sorry ... I thought the voting was in 3 weeks.
2025-02-06 20:51:40 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But I'm +1 for the idea of doing it then.
2025-02-06 20:51:56 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I'm asking for a vote on the submission window and timing
2025-02-06 20:52:19 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anybody else still with us?
2025-02-06 20:52:20 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ah, OK.  Then sure, +1 from me.
2025-02-06 20:54:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> +1
2025-02-06 20:55:23 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> +1
2025-02-06 20:56:01 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> #agreed submissions for ELN-specific artwork are now open at https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192 with voting three weeks hence (27 Feb)
2025-02-06 20:57:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/194
2025-02-06 20:57:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm noticing a bit of a trend on the Issues you are choosing.
2025-02-06 20:57:54 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I'm choosing things that I think we can discuss with who is here today, not picking on you specifically
2025-02-06 20:58:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> e.g. I skipped some things because Davide and Michel aren't here
2025-02-06 20:58:22 <@tdawson:fedora.im> This one I'd like to put off until next week.
2025-02-06 20:59:02 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Partly because we only have 2 minutes
2025-02-06 20:59:19 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> oops lost track of time
2025-02-06 20:59:26 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2025-02-06 20:59:38 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Partly because I've been doing a writup for #194, and would like to have people have a week to digest / discuss what I wrote / asked.
2025-02-06 21:00:37 <@tdawson:fedora.im> After this meeting, I'll put up what I wrote ... I'm almost done, but didn't get it done before this meeting.
2025-02-06 21:01:05 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> thanks Troy
2025-02-06 21:01:12 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anyone else have anything today?
2025-02-06 21:02:08 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Nothing from me
2025-02-06 21:03:09 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> in that case, thank you all for coming.  meetings are weekly now, and of course there's always #eln:fedoraproject.org in the meantime
2025-02-06 21:03:13 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !endmeeting