2025-04-02 15:00:43 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Text Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2025-04-02/git-forge-meeting.2025-04-02-13.59.log.txt
2025-04-02 17:00:05 <@pboy:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora-server
2025-04-02 17:00:07 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-04-02 17:00:05 UTC
2025-04-02 17:00:07 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora-server'
2025-04-02 17:00:11 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic Welcome / roll call
2025-04-02 17:00:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes.
2025-04-02 17:00:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> As usual, let's wait a moment  for everybody to show up.
2025-04-02 17:00:36 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-02 17:00:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Paul Maconi (aggraxis) - he / him / his
2025-04-02 17:00:38 <@eseyman:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-02 17:00:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) - he / him / his
2025-04-02 17:01:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> Hi Paul, hi Emmanuel!
2025-04-02 17:02:01 <@pboy:fedora.im> Mowes is unable to attend today.  I hope, John can make it.
2025-04-02 17:02:12 <@copperi:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-02 17:02:14 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jan Kuparinen (copperi)
2025-04-02 17:02:46 <@pboy:fedora.im> Hi Jan, nice to meet you again!
2025-04-02 17:04:33 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, I think, we should start and hope, John will arrive a bit later.
2025-04-02 17:04:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> 
2025-04-02 17:04:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic Agenda
2025-04-02 17:04:51 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Follow-up actions & announcements
2025-04-02 17:05:01 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service
2025-04-02 17:05:10 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Bug: Fedora 42: Server boot aarch64 image exceeds maximum size
2025-04-02 17:05:25 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Status / progress Beta Testing
2025-04-02 17:05:34 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Open Floor 
2025-04-02 17:06:04 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Is this where I talk about OpenSSL engines?
2025-04-02 17:07:27 <@pboy:fedora.im> Oh, that I have had not in mind. Yes, let's discuss this a new topic before Open Floor!
2025-04-02 17:08:05 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info New additional topic: OpenSSL engines
2025-04-02 17:08:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> Let's start
2025-04-02 17:08:38 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 1. Follow-up actions & announcements
2025-04-02 17:08:48 <@pboy:fedora.im> Regarding the action, nothing new. See
2025-04-02 17:09:01 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/server-working-group/wg-minutes-2025/ 
2025-04-02 17:09:22 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anything to add or to announce here?
2025-04-02 17:09:52 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> No
2025-04-02 17:10:25 <@eseyman:fedora.im> nope
2025-04-02 17:10:54 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, shouldn't we delay top 2 / Ansible NFS , Maybe John is a bit late.
2025-04-02 17:11:18 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> I have stuff for the image size issue if you want to switch to that.
2025-04-02 17:11:31 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK!
2025-04-02 17:12:02 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 3. Bug: Fedora 42: Server boot aarch64 image exceeds maximum size 
2025-04-02 17:12:12 <@pboy:fedora.im> no tracking issue yet
2025-04-02 17:12:23 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2352679
2025-04-02 17:13:04 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> I attended the blocker meeting on Monday and read their take on the issue. It looks like they found some stuff to shrink the image a little bit, but it's still just a hair over the previous limit. I told them that we had discussed the issue here last week and were amenable to increasing the limit to 1.2 GiB, but we needed to look into how.
2025-04-02 17:13:31 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I don't think anyone of us has commented on the bug...
2025-04-02 17:13:49 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> adamw Told me how that's done, and I had posted the details over in #server:fedoraproject.org . In short, we need to make a PR or open a ticket on their repo and tag adamw  on it so he can go change the build artiface.
2025-04-02 17:14:09 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> (sorry for the ding! :P)
2025-04-02 17:14:20 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> adamw Told me how that's done, and I had posted the details over in #server:fedoraproject.org . In short, we need to make a PR or open a ticket on their repo and tag adamw  on it so he can go change the build artifact.
2025-04-02 17:14:30 <@eseyman:fedora.im> "If you believe the canonical maximum size for an image should be changed, please follow the appropriate process before filing a relval bug."
2025-04-02 17:14:56 <@eseyman:fedora.im> admitingly, that doesn't help a lot...
2025-04-02 17:15:28 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> Yeah, he told me how to do that, which I posted in this message: https://matrix.to/#/!VlRwyoXorQwBfFsvhH:matrix.org/$jmvZiDs_jcrghk3Mm2hrn35TemPVRFNqieOvHfZVPeQ?via=fedoraproject.org&via=fedora.im&via=matrix.org
2025-04-02 17:16:00 <@pboy:fedora.im> Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): What should the PR be about? An exception for f42 or a general increase?
2025-04-02 17:16:18 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> I believe it's a general increase.
2025-04-02 17:16:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> Sorry, I missed your post in server  
2025-04-02 17:16:29 <@eseyman:fedora.im> yes, so did I
2025-04-02 17:16:53 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> It's OK. It happened that I was able to pay attention for today's meeting, so I wanted to be sure to let you guys know I went to the other meeting and brought that info back.
2025-04-02 17:17:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): ++1
2025-04-02 17:17:23 <@zodbot:fedora.im> pboy gave a cookie to aggraxis. They now have 8 cookies, 2 of which were obtained in the Fedora 41 release cycle
2025-04-02 17:18:43 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, could one of you take care on the PR? I think, we should limit it to the aarch64 image due to the technical specifics of that architecture. We have no issue with x86_64 (at least yet). 
2025-04-02 17:19:18 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> I think I can handle it today after work.
2025-04-02 17:19:29 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> (or when I get my next big break)
2025-04-02 17:20:03 <@pboy:fedora.im> !action Paul Maconi (Aggraxis) will take care or the PR regarding the size change for aarch64 architecture. 
2025-04-02 17:20:20 <@pboy:fedora.im> Paul Maconi (Aggraxis): Thanks a lot!
2025-04-02 17:20:26 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> Anytime!
2025-04-02 17:20:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, next topic.
2025-04-02 17:20:56 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 4.  Status /progress Beta Testing
2025-04-02 17:21:25 <@pboy:fedora.im> I did the testing of DVD, Netboot and VM image instance. 
2025-04-02 17:22:34 <@pboy:fedora.im> The netboot is a bit unpleasant. The default value for the source is wrong and it takes a long time until the summary page is ready for furtgher action.
2025-04-02 17:22:55 <@pboy:fedora.im> The netboot is a bit unpleasant. The default value for the source is wrong and it takes a long time until the summary page is ready for further action.
2025-04-02 17:23:31 <@pboy:fedora.im> The VM image is missing the correct LVM devices file. That's quite bad. Hopefully we can fix it for release.
2025-04-02 17:24:23 <@pboy:fedora.im> And worst: remote interactive installation doesn't work anymore with the kickstart file. 
2025-04-02 17:24:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> That's in short about my experiences.
2025-04-02 17:25:22 <@pboy:fedora.im> Any other test results so far?
2025-04-02 17:26:13 <@eseyman:fedora.im>  I didn't get a chance to test more last weekend.
2025-04-02 17:27:30 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK. So far, it looks OK for me.  I don't expect any big surprises.
2025-04-02 17:28:01 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, than lets go on to next topic.
2025-04-02 17:28:17 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic  5. OpenSSL engines (new)
2025-04-02 17:28:33 <@pboy:fedora.im> At the moment I'm lost here.
2025-04-02 17:29:13 <@eseyman:fedora.im> today, Fesco decided to reject the change
2025-04-02 17:29:45 <@eseyman:fedora.im> so OpenSSL Engine should not be dropped before the OpenSSL devs drop it
2025-04-02 17:30:05 <@pboy:fedora.im> That sounds good to me! 
2025-04-02 17:30:52 <@eseyman:fedora.im> and that's pretty much it
2025-04-02 17:31:30 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK. This reminds me of the change in Cockpit to  abandon self-signed certificates. Is there something new? 
2025-04-02 17:31:53 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I don't think so
2025-04-02 17:32:26 <@pboy:fedora.im> Oh, I see now that I should contact the team about this. Oh dear. 
2025-04-02 17:32:57 <@pboy:fedora.im> I'll get right on it tomorrow.  
2025-04-02 17:33:30 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Support for web service worker will not happen : https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/discussions/21695
2025-04-02 17:33:46 <@eseyman:fedora.im> so we can keep our self-signed certs
2025-04-02 17:34:35 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, so there is nothing to do for me? And nothing is lost yet? 
2025-04-02 17:35:30 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, let's come back to topic 1 
2025-04-02 17:35:31 <@eseyman:fedora.im> nope
2025-04-02 17:35:46 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 2    Ansible assisted installation and configuration of NFS service
2025-04-02 17:35:57 <@pboy:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/138
2025-04-02 17:36:10 <@pboy:fedora.im> We still are missing John.
2025-04-02 17:36:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> Regarding me, I was busy to optimize my NFS test environment. So nothing new from me.
2025-04-02 17:36:55 <@eseyman:fedora.im> same
2025-04-02 17:37:09 <@pboy:fedora.im> But everything is setup now, so I can start as soon as I finish the beta tests. 
2025-04-02 17:37:32 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, so we can proceed. 
2025-04-02 17:37:51 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 6. Open Floor
2025-04-02 17:38:27 <@pboy:fedora.im> We have a lot of time left for this. We had that never before, as far as I remember.
2025-04-02 17:39:16 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, we are open for everybody !!!! Any coment, question, remark, ....
2025-04-02 17:40:32 <@eseyman:fedora.im> FTR, I am testing several of Robert de Bock's Ansible roles before packaging them in rpms and submitting them to Fedora
2025-04-02 17:41:32 <@pboy:fedora.im> That sounds good. I had a look into those, too. They seem to me a bit more focused on the task at hand, then other collections.
2025-04-02 17:43:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> I suppose, we can reuase a lot of them. Although I don't know how to accomplish that. Until now I'm missing a kind of library to link to.
2025-04-02 17:43:26 <@pboy:fedora.im> I suppose, we can reuse a lot of them. Although I don't know how to accomplish that. Until now I'm missing a kind of library to link to.
2025-04-02 17:44:05 <@eseyman:fedora.im> there's a collection that gives you all the roles but it hasn't been updated in a while
2025-04-02 17:44:19 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I'm going to package them individually
2025-04-02 17:45:07 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, I think we should discuss the details as soon as we have positive testing of our model case (NFS).
2025-04-02 17:45:41 <@pboy:fedora.im> I suppose, we are done now? We have the rare case of finishing early instead of running overdue.  :-)
2025-04-02 17:46:05 <@eseyman:fedora.im> yes
2025-04-02 17:46:23 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, so bye bye! And thanks for comming.
2025-04-02 17:46:37 <@pboy:fedora.im> !endmeeting