2025-04-03 19:00:40 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !startmeeting ELN SIG 03 Apr '25
2025-04-03 19:00:41 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-04-03 19:00:40 UTC
2025-04-03 19:00:41 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'ELN SIG 03 Apr '25'
2025-04-03 19:00:46 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !meetingname eln
2025-04-03 19:00:47 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now eln
2025-04-03 19:00:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Init process
2025-04-03 19:02:35 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-03 19:02:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2025-04-03 19:03:23 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-03 19:03:24 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Troy Dawson (tdawson)
2025-04-03 19:03:50 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2025-04-03 19:03:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2025-04-03 19:04:50 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> well, let's get started
2025-04-03 19:04:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic New business
2025-04-03 19:05:06 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/minimization/content-resolver-input/pull/1408
2025-04-03 19:05:20 <@blackmalenotblackmaill:matrix.org> Howdy yall !
2025-04-03 19:05:21 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2025-04-03 19:05:24 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2025-04-03 19:05:31 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Michel Lind UTC-6 another meta package has been retired
2025-04-03 19:05:40 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> from Fedora, that is
2025-04-03 19:05:57 <@salimma:fedora.im> which one?
2025-04-03 19:06:05 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh that 
2025-04-03 19:06:19 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah that's fine, thanks
2025-04-03 19:06:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> we just wanted something internally to validate keys we use internally or we get from vendors
2025-04-03 19:06:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> well, there is a replacement in this case, as noted there
2025-04-03 19:07:04 <@salimma:fedora.im> yup
2025-04-03 19:07:09 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> if you could please ack the ticket itself, I'll merge it
2025-04-03 19:07:13 <@gmoro:matrix.org> !hi
2025-04-03 19:07:17 <@salimma:fedora.im> exactly, I meant we need to use that one once we move to 11. oh ok
2025-04-03 19:07:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Guilherme Moro (guilhermemoro)
2025-04-03 19:07:20 <@salimma:fedora.im> let me log in first so I can do that
2025-04-03 19:07:24 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-03 19:07:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Stephen Gallagher (sgallagh) - he / him / his
2025-04-03 19:07:38 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> hello everybody
2025-04-03 19:07:57 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/244
2025-04-03 19:08:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> does anyone know what the story is wrt ocl-icd vs OpenCL-ICD-Loader in general and/or in fedora?
2025-04-03 19:08:43 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> it just seems really odd to have two of them
2025-04-03 19:11:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I guess not 🤷‍♂️
2025-04-03 19:11:36 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Old business
2025-04-03 19:11:41 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/239
2025-04-03 19:11:59 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> thank you Conan Kudo for filing an upstream ticket, unfortunately no update since
2025-04-03 19:12:09 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> and the downstream maintainer is otherwise occupied atm
2025-04-03 19:13:40 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> so far the only workaround is to use python, but that is not as performant (which was motivation for the switch to `nc` in the first place)
2025-04-03 19:14:15 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> does anyone know how much of a difference it would make?  I hardly have any experience with cloud-init
2025-04-03 19:14:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Not I
2025-04-03 19:15:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> the Cloud WG should probably chime in
2025-04-03 19:15:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> can we not just package the alternate nc implementation?
2025-04-03 19:16:05 <@salimma:fedora.im> I guess that would mean enabling EPEL which is not ideal
2025-04-03 19:16:19 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> no this is for ELN (or RHEL eventually)
2025-04-03 19:16:39 <@salimma:fedora.im> so yeah I guess it's up to RHEL engineers to decide what to do here :/
2025-04-03 19:16:52 <@salimma:fedora.im> either fork cloud-init or chase them to find a different solution, or package the other nc
2025-04-03 19:16:56 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> who are Cloud WG?  do they have a channel?
2025-04-03 19:17:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> yes, #cloud:fedoraproject.org 
2025-04-03 19:17:18 <@salimma:fedora.im> note that's Fedora Cloud so they probably would be fine just packaging the other nc
2025-04-03 19:17:36 <@salimma:fedora.im> that's Neal and David Duncan and Major Hayden iirc?
2025-04-03 19:17:41 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> yeah they won't care but maybe they'll have some input
2025-04-03 19:17:43 <@salimma:fedora.im> so there's an overlap with RH cloud people
2025-04-03 19:17:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> we should ask Major, he'd care about this wearing either hat
2025-04-03 19:18:05 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> yeah Major is the aforementioned otherwise occupied maintainer
2025-04-03 19:18:20 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> but perhaps someone else in the group will know
2025-04-03 19:18:25 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> thanks for the tip
2025-04-03 19:18:30 <@salimma:fedora.im> if they bring it up in their meeting I guess Major can follow up then
2025-04-03 19:18:40 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !action Yaakov to ask Cloud WG for advice on cloud-init
2025-04-03 19:18:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> but yeah I sympathize, I'm also pulled in 10 different directions
2025-04-03 19:18:56 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/238
2025-04-03 19:19:09 <@salimma:fedora.im> ps I removed sequoia-keyring-linter from our internal inventory, so when your PR lands everything is in sync
2025-04-03 19:19:15 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I posted https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libxcrypt-epel/pull-request/1 yesterday
2025-04-03 19:19:31 <@salimma:fedora.im> thanks, I'll take a look today
2025-04-03 19:19:39 <@salimma:fedora.im> sorry, been meaning to take care of that last week
2025-04-03 19:20:02 <@salimma:fedora.im> I wonder what the packit failures are
2025-04-03 19:20:06 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok we'll follow up in the PR?
2025-04-03 19:20:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> that'... never seen it before
2025-04-03 19:20:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> yup
2025-04-03 19:20:23 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !action Michel to review https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libxcrypt-epel/pull-request/1
2025-04-03 19:20:42 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/202
2025-04-03 19:21:30 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> the IdM/IPA folks have backported the engine->provider changes to bind and freeipa, so openssl-pkcs11 (the engine) is gone from ELN
2025-04-03 19:21:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> so we're down to one package right?
2025-04-03 19:21:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> wpa_supplicant
2025-04-03 19:21:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> do we know if disabling engine loses any functionality there?
2025-04-03 19:22:11 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> but just when I thought that would be the last of openssl-devel-engine (at least for ELN proper), yeah that had snuck back in in the meantime
2025-04-03 19:22:37 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> c10s has it disabled so it can't be that bad? 🤷‍♂️
2025-04-03 19:22:51 <@salimma:fedora.im> iirc this breaks our desktop people too before it was fixed, so... people using RHEL 11 in enterprise environments might be unpleasantly surprised if there is no workaround
2025-04-03 19:23:09 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> yselkowitz: I think I remember someone telling me it was needed for smart-card auth with wpa2?
2025-04-03 19:23:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> iirc it is needed at work where the wifi authentication is key based too
2025-04-03 19:23:36 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> but RHEL 10 seems to disable it afaics
2025-04-03 19:23:40 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> But they may have either fixed that or decided they could live with that limitation in 10.0
2025-04-03 19:24:28 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> you'd think RHEL would need that more than Fedora, but engine is completely out of 10 afaik
2025-04-03 19:24:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> (we don't run our desktop fleet on CentOS - yet, so it's a less serious issue right now, but could be painful in the future. sounds like upstream wpa_supplicant need to be urged to move away)
2025-04-03 19:24:43 <@salimma:fedora.im> but RH engineers run Fedora on desktops now :)
2025-04-03 19:24:58 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I'm sure the maintainer will take care of that if the case arises
2025-04-03 19:25:30 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> but in the meantime it's now the last user of engine, at least in ELN
2025-04-03 19:25:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> but yeah
2025-04-03 19:25:48 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> it burst my bubble a bit
2025-04-03 19:25:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> given this is broken in c10s anyway I'm ok if we conditionalize it
2025-04-03 19:26:26 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ack
2025-04-03 19:26:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> I'll make a mental note to ask our intrepid desktop CentOS users if the internal wifi works for them
2025-04-03 19:27:15 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> great
2025-04-03 19:27:17 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192
2025-04-03 19:27:33 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> Troy Dawson, update please?
2025-04-03 19:28:07 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We're pretty much through the Package Request, but Stephen brought up a question.
2025-04-03 19:28:26 <@tdawson:fedora.im> He was thinking we'd put this in an already "fedora" package, I guess in fedora-logos or something.
2025-04-03 19:29:42 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> unlike centos/rhel, backgrounds are separate srpms from fedora-logos
2025-04-03 19:29:48 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But now I'm not seeing that question ... so ... maybe I imagined that?
2025-04-03 19:30:09 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I saw that too somewhere, maybe in chat?
2025-04-03 19:30:23 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anyway, I don't think doing that gains us anything
2025-04-03 19:30:25 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But I think it's close, Conan Kudo needs to approve it.
2025-04-03 19:30:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah, lemme go look again
2025-04-03 19:30:45 <@tdawson:fedora.im> But it brings up the question, should this be built in ELN only?   (I was expecting it to be.)
2025-04-03 19:30:50 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> and the fedora-* prefix will make it easy to remember to filter out of the eln->c11s sync
2025-04-03 19:31:17 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I had thought so too but somebody suggested just making it available (non-default) across releases?
2025-04-03 19:31:19 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I think I'd prefer it to be called just eln-backgrounds
2025-04-03 19:31:35 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I want it easy to filter
2025-04-03 19:31:44 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> eln is an easy enough filter
2025-04-03 19:31:53 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but ehh
2025-04-03 19:32:00 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Right, I think it was in chat.
2025-04-03 19:32:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> but it's *another* filter while fedora-* already exists
2025-04-03 19:32:25 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> I had noted that we probably want the artwork to be *available* to any release, but only defaulted in Fedora ELN
2025-04-03 19:32:25 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ahh ... ok, that makes more sense.
2025-04-03 19:33:08 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok but tbh I just hadn't thought about even building it for anything but eln
2025-04-03 19:33:18 <@salimma:fedora.im> sounds good to me
2025-04-03 19:33:26 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> not that I really care that much, besides being non-default elsewhere
2025-04-03 19:33:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> I want to be able to use it on my Fedora laptop, it will match my hot dog Plymouth theme
2025-04-03 19:33:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we build the fedora backgrounds in epel, I don't see why we wouldn't
2025-04-03 19:33:45 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> we dropped the hot dog, remember?
2025-04-03 19:33:51 <@salimma:fedora.im> yes, but that's ok
2025-04-03 19:33:58 <@salimma:fedora.im> it's still thematically matching
2025-04-03 19:34:10 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> the condiments, ok I guess so
2025-04-03 19:34:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> I guess I should save the versions with the hot dog anyway in case I want to be extra fun
2025-04-03 19:34:20 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and I do intend to talk to troy about his hot dog version :)
2025-04-03 19:34:22 <@salimma:fedora.im> and Conan Kudo might need it for his Hot Dog OS
2025-04-03 19:34:30 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> generic-logos needs a backgrounds subpackages
2025-04-03 19:34:31 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> But in the end I suppose it's probably just fine to build it only for ELN and just publish the image on the web somewhere for the crazies like Michel Lind UTC-6 to download manually
2025-04-03 19:34:31 <@salimma:fedora.im> aha jinx
2025-04-03 19:34:33 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> generic-logos needs a backgrounds subpackage
2025-04-03 19:34:45 <@salimma:fedora.im> "I am not crazy, my mom had me tested!"
2025-04-03 19:34:59 <@salimma:fedora.im> "yes but I wish we consulted that specialist in Houston..."
2025-04-03 19:35:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> "mom tested, kid approved"
2025-04-03 19:35:05 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> She really should have followed up with that specialist.
2025-04-03 19:35:37 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !idea Stephen Gallagher moves that fedora-eln-backgrounds be built for all stable releases, but provide the default configuration only in ELN
2025-04-03 19:35:44 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> does that some it up?
2025-04-03 19:35:45 <@salimma:fedora.im> of course the best sausage for a hot dog is a kielbasa
2025-04-03 19:35:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> proud Chicago-adjacent-er
2025-04-03 19:36:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> do we vote on this once Stephen confirms?
2025-04-03 19:36:22 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> yselkowitz: Yes, but as I noted in follow-up comments, I don't actually care all that much. It was more about keeping with tradition.
2025-04-03 19:36:33 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> (Like Troy mentioned about keeping Fedora backgrounds in EPEL)
2025-04-03 19:36:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So, conditionalize the "Provides:       system-backgrounds" for eln only?
2025-04-03 19:36:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> exactly
2025-04-03 19:37:03 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm ok with that.
2025-04-03 19:37:05 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> let's vote!
2025-04-03 19:37:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> +1
2025-04-03 19:37:41 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> 0
2025-04-03 19:37:53 <@salimma:fedora.im> 0 on your own idea? ;)
2025-04-03 19:37:57 <@tdawson:fedora.im> +1
2025-04-03 19:37:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Troy Dawson: you still haven't updated the license files in the git repo and sources
2025-04-03 19:38:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's the remaining blocker
2025-04-03 19:38:09 <@salimma:fedora.im> (actually recusal is quite a nice ideal)
2025-04-03 19:38:09 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> I commit my vote to match the majority :)
2025-04-03 19:38:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> +1
2025-04-03 19:38:23 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Michel Lind UTC-6: By the way, there is this in Fedora - beefy-miracle-backgrounds 
2025-04-03 19:38:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> me plays devil advocate and suggests Troy uses public domain ;)
2025-04-03 19:38:41 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh doh
2025-04-03 19:38:44 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hmm ... I thought I did update those ... I wonder if I forgot to push them.
2025-04-03 19:38:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> yes we should branch that and the plymouth theme to EPEL. thanks
2025-04-03 19:38:58 <@salimma:fedora.im> I'll add it to my COPR for now
2025-04-03 19:39:34 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Yep, I forgot to push the license and other change.
2025-04-03 19:39:42 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !agreed (+4, -0, 1) that fedora-eln-backgrounds be built for all stable releases, but provide the default configuration only in ELN
2025-04-03 19:40:03 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Michel Lind UTC-6: Public Domain is too ambiguous to be a good idea. It's why we (Fedora) are cautious about CC0 as well
2025-04-03 19:40:14 <@salimma:fedora.im> I was definitely tongue in cheek
2025-04-03 19:40:29 <@salimma:fedora.im> dealing with a headache now auditing 7zip which has so many files that are claimed to be public domain
2025-04-03 19:40:35 <@salimma:fedora.im> they *all* require legal to take a look
2025-04-03 19:40:47 <@salimma:fedora.im> (and our guidelines is slightly unclear on that which does not help)
2025-04-03 19:40:57 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> we should have a standard license already for our own backgrounds, just use that?
2025-04-03 19:41:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we did
2025-04-03 19:41:14 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> my guess would be CC-BY-??
2025-04-03 19:41:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the problem is Troy didn't include the right file
2025-04-03 19:41:33 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the license tag is correct, just the file with the license terms is wrong
2025-04-03 19:41:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Actually, I included the file from f42-backgrounds ... so THEY didn't include the right file.
2025-04-03 19:41:43 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> ugh
2025-04-03 19:41:43 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We should probrubly file a bug on that.
2025-04-03 19:41:43 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> hah!
2025-04-03 19:41:45 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> I wonder about that, actually. Licensing terms are weird if they include logos...
2025-04-03 19:42:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's why fedora backgrounds usually don't anymore
2025-04-03 19:42:15 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Don't what?
2025-04-03 19:42:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> IIRC the fedora core 6 background caused a red flag
2025-04-03 19:42:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's why we never did it again
2025-04-03 19:42:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we don't incorporate the fedora logo into backgrounds anymore
2025-04-03 19:42:58 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Don't include the Fedora logo in the backgrounds.
2025-04-03 19:42:59 <@salimma:fedora.im> what was the 6 background? the first one I remember is 8
2025-04-03 19:43:05 <@salimma:fedora.im> (8 was the awful purple iirc)
2025-04-03 19:43:15 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh yeah, we just have a gnome patch to draw the background iirc
2025-04-03 19:43:18 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 6 has the fedora infinity dna helix
2025-04-03 19:43:19 <@salimma:fedora.im> draw the logo
2025-04-03 19:43:24 <@salimma:fedora.im> ahh that
2025-04-03 19:43:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Wallpapers#Fedora_Core_6
2025-04-03 19:44:13 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we included the wordmark in fedora 7's wallpaper, but after that, no more
2025-04-03 19:44:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and I'm pretty sure the licensing issue is why
2025-04-03 19:44:27 <@salimma:fedora.im> TIL wordmark
2025-04-03 19:44:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> logo mark and word mark are the icon and name respectively
2025-04-03 19:45:18 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyway
2025-04-03 19:45:28 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> not sure I want to know the answer, but do we have the same concerns with the ELN logo?
2025-04-03 19:45:30 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes if the license file is wrong in fedora backgrounds it needs to be fixed there too
2025-04-03 19:46:10 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> yselkowitz: I need to double-check what terms mizmo designed that for us.
2025-04-03 19:46:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the ELN logo is not trademarked
2025-04-03 19:46:43 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so it's just normal copyright stuff
2025-04-03 19:46:55 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok we'll leave it at that then
2025-04-03 19:47:03 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !link !link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/218
2025-04-03 19:47:29 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> this has been a PAINFUL mass rebuild
2025-04-03 19:47:34 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> there are just 4 failures left
2025-04-03 19:47:46 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> Right, but I just realized I don't know what copyright/license terms we have for it.
2025-04-03 19:48:19 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> you'll check on that?
2025-04-03 19:48:27 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> the terms, that is
2025-04-03 19:48:41 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> (always hard to tell when we're finished a topic here)
2025-04-03 19:49:07 <@salimma:fedora.im> bison broke? uh oh
2025-04-03 19:49:14 <@salimma:fedora.im> I just noticed that right now - that sounds bad
2025-04-03 19:49:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> like really bad
2025-04-03 19:49:16 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> nah it's one test failure
2025-04-03 19:49:31 <@salimma:fedora.im> ah
2025-04-03 19:49:31 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> so not that bad but annoying
2025-04-03 19:49:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> still..
2025-04-03 19:49:45 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> yeah tell me about it
2025-04-03 19:49:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> I don't really have time to do what I wanted to do today so maybe I'll take a look after I do your PR review
2025-04-03 19:50:21 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> sounds good
2025-04-03 19:50:29 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> reason I'm mentioning this now is...
2025-04-03 19:50:36 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Next meeting
2025-04-03 19:51:14 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> I'll be mostly afk for the next two weeks, so Troy will be running meeting in my stead
2025-04-03 19:51:26 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> are there any conflicts for next week?
2025-04-03 19:51:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Oh ... I just saw that we have Alt Images monthly meeting at the same time next week.
2025-04-03 19:52:06 <@sgallagh:fedora.im> I'll be unavailable next week as well
2025-04-03 19:52:12 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We didn't until the time change.   It's on UTC, which this is NA based.
2025-04-03 19:52:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> I think I have something but earlier in the day so should be fine
2025-04-03 19:52:21 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ugh
2025-04-03 19:52:52 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> cancel next week then?
2025-04-03 19:52:58 <@tdawson:fedora.im> How about we skip next week.   Yep.
2025-04-03 19:52:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah
2025-04-03 19:53:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> sgtm
2025-04-03 19:53:10 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok, any conflicts two weeks out?
2025-04-03 19:53:19 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm good for two weeks out.
2025-04-03 19:53:22 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> 17th
2025-04-03 19:53:24 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I should be able to host it then.
2025-04-03 19:54:24 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !info next meeting is in a fortnight, 17 Apr at 15:00 EDT, skipping next week due to conflicts
2025-04-03 19:54:48 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2025-04-03 19:55:02 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> anyone have anything else to discuss today?
2025-04-03 19:55:26 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Not I
2025-04-03 19:55:50 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Nope
2025-04-03 19:57:17 <@salimma:fedora.im> nada
2025-04-03 19:57:58 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> ok then, thank you all for coming and the lively discussion, I'll see you all when I'm back in 3 weeks, but please do file tickets or reach out to Troy in my absence
2025-04-03 19:58:08 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !endmeeting