#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:01:46

!startmeeting Fedora Community Ops - 2025-04-29

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

14:01:49

Meeting started at 2025-04-29 14:01:46 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

14:01:49

The Meeting name is 'Fedora Community Ops - 2025-04-29'

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:01:49

!meetingname commops

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14:01:52

The Meeting Name is now commops

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:02:17

!topic Agenda

<@shaunm:matrix.org>

14:02:28

Good morning

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

14:02:36

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

14:02:42

Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:02:44

!info Intros, welcomes, hellos (~5m)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:02:47

!info Team announcements & news (~5-10m)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:02:50

!info Ticket discussions (remaining time)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:02:52

!info Open floor (remaining 5-10 minutes)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:03:00

!topic Intros, welcomes, hellos

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:03:01

!hi

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:03:05

Hellooooo folks!

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

14:03:11

Justin Wheeler (jflory7) - he / him / his

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:03:20

Hiya, shaunm and Neil Hanlon 👋

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:03:26

How are your mornings going?

<@chris_idoko:matrix.org>

14:03:59

Hello 👋

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:04:27

Heyo Chris Onoja Idoko, welcome! 👋

<@chris_idoko:matrix.org>

14:04:48

thank you

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:05:36

OK, we are a few minutes in.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:05:41

Let's go ahead and get rolling 🌊

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:06:00

!info Present: @jflory7, @shaunm, @neil, @chris

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:06:06

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

14:06:07

Yashwanth Rathakrishnan (thisisyaash)

<@shaunm:matrix.org>

14:06:08

Need more coffee

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:06:14

!info +Present: @thisisyaash

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:06:19

!topic Team announcements & news

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:06:19

hello everyone 👋

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:06:23

Hey Yaash!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:06:28

!info === "AI policy in Fedora - WIP" ===

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:06:32

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ai-policy-in-fedora-wip/144297?u=jflory7

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:06:36

!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ai-policy-in-fedora-wip/144297?u=jflory7

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:07:02

This is an interesting discussion about coming up with a policy for AI in Fedora.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:07:10

I expect it to get some traction at next week's Fedora Council meeting.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:07:19

It has been awaiting feedback for a while. I learned about the post today 😄

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:07:40

Oh!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:07:41

Big one!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:08:03

!info === "Fedora Elections Nominations Period Now Open!" ===

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:08:11

!link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-elections-nominations-period-now-open/

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:08:16

It is elections season 🙂

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:08:22

For Council, Mindshare, and FESCo.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:08:29

Mindshare is getting completely rebooted this coming election.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:08:33

So, it will be an exciting time!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:09:07

!info === "2025 Fedora Datacenter move update" ===

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:09:09

!link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/2025-fedora-datacenter-move-update/

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:09:20

Some updates on moving pieces of infrastructure around.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:10:03

!info === "The Fedora Project history and family tree" ===

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:10:04

!link https://fedoramagazine.org/the-fedora-project/

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:10:13

This was a fun post. I have not read it fully yet, but I saw it making the rounds.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:10:13

<eof>

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:10:19

Anyone else have news, announcements, or updates to share?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:10:25

Speak up 😄

<@chris_idoko:matrix.org>

14:10:52

To give a little heads up on the open floor. I had something little that took some of my time away from me. I am still very much ontop of the task [`"Implement UI/UX enhancements for a knowledgebase to Fedora Docs Antora theme"`](https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/work_items/71) I'll be sure to have substantial update in the coming day and before our next meeting 😅

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:11:41

Chris Onoja Idoko: It is a good update, and thanks for following up on it. I am excited to help support you on this too 🚀

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:12:06

Chris Onoja Idoko: Do you want to triage it for meeting discussion for today, or an update from you is all that is needed for now?

<@chris_idoko:matrix.org>

14:13:59

i might not be a topic of urgency to discuss for today, A update from me will do in the coming day to allow for further discussions

<@chris_idoko:matrix.org>

14:14:05

it might not be a topic of urgency to discuss for today, A update from me will do in the coming day to allow for further discussions

<@chris_idoko:matrix.org>

14:14:13

it might not be a topic of urgency to discuss for today, An update from me will do in the coming day to allow for further discussions

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:15:12

OK! Sounds good to me.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:15:16

Let's press on then!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:15:24

!topic Ticket discussions

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:15:32

!link https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/issues/?label_name%5B%5D=meeting%20topic%20request

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:15:41

So, actually, the queue is pretty light

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:15:44

There are some topics though.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:15:54

I think the Matrix issue ties into an open MR

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:16:02

We could use this slot to get some MRs reviewed and/or merged.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:16:40

I am seeing Matrix WG formalization steps as a topic, and for docs MRs, the initial outline of the Matrix WG and Flock volunteer roles

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:16:59

Not seeing any other topics triaged for today, so let's go with that and then we can have an early open floor.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:17:14

!topic !33: "📝 docs(flock): Add initial Flock Volunteer Role Handbook"

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:17:19

!link https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/merge_requests/33

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:17:33

I spent some time on this yesterday, following up on feedback collected over the last few weeks.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:17:41

I wanted to leave some time for folks to take a look and review this MR.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:17:48

It needs someone to click "approve" for it to be merged though.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:17:58

I would appreciate any questions or comments on this doc before it gets merged!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:19:39

We can take 4-5 minutes to review. Then we can spend time on the next one

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:19:56

Oh lol it just merged

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:20:04

Looks like Adrian Edwards (use @irradiated_lemming:matrix.org) reviewed it

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:20:11

However, feedback is still welcome and appreciated

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:20:29

We can still take a few minutes to review. I am curious what folks think about the changes I made here: https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/merge_requests/33/diffs?commit_id=056208ff0b9243c4d3935d363b4eb22f01e6427a

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:20:45

This addressed feedback from Aoife Moloney and jnsamyak.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:25:16

OK, five minutes past… shaunm Neil Hanlon Chris Onoja Idoko Yaash, any feedback here, or on to Matrix?

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

14:26:06

no comments from me; though full disclosure i'm triple booked right now

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

14:26:14

i did reviewlast week i think

<@shaunm:matrix.org>

14:26:44

lgtm so far

<@chris_idoko:matrix.org>

14:27:06

no comments from me at this time

<@shaunm:matrix.org>

14:27:14

but, y'know, sometimes you only see what's missing after the fact :)

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:27:27

it would be good to see that implemented 🤔

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:27:27

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:27:27

and that's it from me...

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:27:27

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:27:27

because i don't know how we are going to help and how much time we need to commit

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:27:27

especially the Volunteer Lead Contact and Time Commitment

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:27:27

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:27:27

and I think both of their feedbacks makes sense

<@thisisyaash:fedora.im>

14:27:27

so far everything looks good to me (as im new to volunteering)

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:27:44

Of course, but that is why we iterate 😄 For now though, just getting it mostly right is enough.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:27:53

Alright folks, thanks for the feedback!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:27:55

Let's keep moving.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:28:50

!agreed Changes looked good to present reviewers. MR is now merged. New page will be published on docs.fp.o within an hour or so.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:30:41

Sorry, got lost in the GitLab follow-up 🙂

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:30:46

I also posted a summary comment in the MR

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:30:51

Getting the next topic prepped now…

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:31:20

!topic #70: "Fedora Matrix Moderation: Adding as a CommOps responsibility"

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:31:25

!link https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/issues/70

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:31:46

!info The MR that proposed the overall structure for the Matrix WG is available, and nearly ready to be merged.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:31:48

!link https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/merge_requests/34

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:32:51

Steve, Steve Cossette [Farchord], and nirik have shared some thoughts already in the MR. It is to those comments of feedback that I want to respond for the charter. _However_…

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:33:07

I think now is the right time to open up some calls for help, and widening out the call for participation.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:33:23

I think we are ready to start approaching topics like, "What is an _official_ Fedora Matrix room?"

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:33:43

"How do I nominate someone as a Matrix moderator and admin?"

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:34:02

I think at this point, we are looking for help from folks to take a first go at drafting some sort of policy docs.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:34:21

I think a Google Doc for initial feedback is a good idea, and later, we can convert it into a Fedora Doc.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:34:50

!info Charter is nearly ready, but now is a good time for more participation on formalizing aspects of the Fedora governance of our shared Matrix resources.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:35:32

!help Need help with creating first drafts of official Fedora Project Matrix room policy, how to nominate new moderators and admins for the Fedora space, advice/howto on Matrix moderation best practices for Fedora Matrix mods, etc.

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

14:35:33

`Need help with creating first drafts of official Fedora Project Matrix room policy, how to nominate new moderators and admins for the Fedora space, advice/howto on Matrix moderation best practices for Fedora Matrix mods, etc.` is not a valid command

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:35:41

Oh.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:35:50

!halp Need help with creating first drafts of official Fedora Project Matrix room policy, how to nominate new moderators and admins for the Fedora space, advice/howto on Matrix moderation best practices for Fedora Matrix mods, etc.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:36:15

Of course, now is still a good time to leave feedback on the existing GitLab MR if you have any.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:36:21

But that window for feedback is closing 😉

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:36:34

So, now is a good chance for someone to take a go at helping us create some guidelines and policy

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:36:42

Anyone have questions? Thoughts? Interests?

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

14:39:35

I think it's a really good idea but I don't have much time to dedicate right now

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:40:41

That is fair.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:40:59

We can keep it open while the charter is worked on

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:41:37

!action @jflory7 Revise Matrix WG doc with feedback from reviewers on GitLab MR !34

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:42:03

!info We will widen the call for participation in drafting the Matrix guidelines/policies.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:42:43

So, that was the agenda.

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:42:46

!topic Open floor

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:42:58

Anyone else have anything they want to throw out there?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:43:26

Chris Onoja Idoko: Did you have anything else you wanted to expand on here?

<@chris_idoko:matrix.org>

14:44:40

Not really, i think we already have a structured approach on the ticket

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:45:19

OK. Then that works for me!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:45:27

Any other topics for open floor?

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:45:33

_Going once…_

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:45:55

#### _Going twice…_

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:46:20

### _Going thrice…_

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:46:30

## 💥

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:46:37

Thanks folks for your time today!

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

14:46:43

Thanks Justin!

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:46:47

See ya next time 👋

<@jflory7:fedora.im>

14:46:49

!endmeeting