2025-04-29 14:01:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora Community Ops - 2025-04-29
2025-04-29 14:01:49 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-04-29 14:01:46 UTC
2025-04-29 14:01:49 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora Community Ops - 2025-04-29'
2025-04-29 14:01:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !meetingname commops
2025-04-29 14:01:52 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now commops
2025-04-29 14:02:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Agenda
2025-04-29 14:02:28 <@shaunm:matrix.org> Good morning
2025-04-29 14:02:36 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2025-04-29 14:02:42 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2025-04-29 14:02:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Intros, welcomes, hellos (~5m)
2025-04-29 14:02:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Team announcements & news (~5-10m)
2025-04-29 14:02:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Ticket discussions (remaining time)
2025-04-29 14:02:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Open floor (remaining 5-10 minutes)
2025-04-29 14:03:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Intros, welcomes, hellos
2025-04-29 14:03:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-29 14:03:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hellooooo folks!
2025-04-29 14:03:11 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Justin Wheeler (jflory7) - he / him / his
2025-04-29 14:03:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hiya, shaunm and Neil Hanlon 👋
2025-04-29 14:03:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> How are your mornings going?
2025-04-29 14:03:59 <@chris_idoko:matrix.org> Hello 👋
2025-04-29 14:04:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Heyo Chris Onoja Idoko, welcome! 👋
2025-04-29 14:04:48 <@chris_idoko:matrix.org> thank you
2025-04-29 14:05:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK, we are a few minutes in.
2025-04-29 14:05:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's go ahead and get rolling 🌊
2025-04-29 14:06:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Present: @jflory7, @shaunm, @neil, @chris
2025-04-29 14:06:06 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-29 14:06:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Yashwanth Rathakrishnan (thisisyaash)
2025-04-29 14:06:08 <@shaunm:matrix.org> Need more coffee
2025-04-29 14:06:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info +Present: @thisisyaash
2025-04-29 14:06:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Team announcements & news
2025-04-29 14:06:19 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> hello everyone 👋
2025-04-29 14:06:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hey Yaash!
2025-04-29 14:06:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info === "AI policy in Fedora - WIP" ===
2025-04-29 14:06:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im>     !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ai-policy-in-fedora-wip/144297?u=jflory7
2025-04-29 14:06:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ai-policy-in-fedora-wip/144297?u=jflory7
2025-04-29 14:07:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This is an interesting discussion about coming up with a policy for AI in Fedora.
2025-04-29 14:07:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I expect it to get some traction at next week's Fedora Council meeting.
2025-04-29 14:07:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It has been awaiting feedback for a while. I learned about the post today 😄 
2025-04-29 14:07:40 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh!
2025-04-29 14:07:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Big one!
2025-04-29 14:08:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info === "Fedora Elections Nominations Period Now Open!" ===
2025-04-29 14:08:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-elections-nominations-period-now-open/
2025-04-29 14:08:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It is elections season 🙂 
2025-04-29 14:08:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> For Council, Mindshare, and FESCo.
2025-04-29 14:08:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Mindshare is getting completely rebooted this coming election.
2025-04-29 14:08:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, it will be an exciting time!
2025-04-29 14:09:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info === "2025 Fedora Datacenter move update" ===
2025-04-29 14:09:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/2025-fedora-datacenter-move-update/
2025-04-29 14:09:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Some updates on moving pieces of infrastructure around.
2025-04-29 14:10:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info === "The Fedora Project history and family tree" ===
2025-04-29 14:10:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://fedoramagazine.org/the-fedora-project/
2025-04-29 14:10:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This was a fun post. I have not read it fully yet, but I saw it making the rounds.
2025-04-29 14:10:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> <eof>
2025-04-29 14:10:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyone else have news, announcements, or updates to share?
2025-04-29 14:10:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Speak up 😄 
2025-04-29 14:10:52 <@chris_idoko:matrix.org> To give a little heads up on the open floor. I had something little that took some of my time away from me. I am still very much ontop of the task [`"Implement UI/UX enhancements for a knowledgebase to Fedora Docs Antora theme"`](https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/work_items/71)  I'll be sure to have substantial update in the coming day and before our next meeting 😅
2025-04-29 14:11:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Chris Onoja Idoko: It is a good update, and thanks for following up on it. I am excited to help support you on this too 🚀
2025-04-29 14:12:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Chris Onoja Idoko: Do you want to triage it for meeting discussion for today, or an update from you is all that is needed for now?
2025-04-29 14:13:59 <@chris_idoko:matrix.org> i might not be a topic of urgency to discuss for today, A update from me will do in the coming day to allow for further discussions 
2025-04-29 14:14:05 <@chris_idoko:matrix.org> it might not be a topic of urgency to discuss for today, A update from me will do in the coming day to allow for further discussions 
2025-04-29 14:14:13 <@chris_idoko:matrix.org> it might not be a topic of urgency to discuss for today, An update from me will do in the coming day to allow for further discussions 
2025-04-29 14:15:12 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK! Sounds good to me.
2025-04-29 14:15:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's press on then!
2025-04-29 14:15:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Ticket discussions
2025-04-29 14:15:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/issues/?label_name%5B%5D=meeting%20topic%20request
2025-04-29 14:15:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, actually, the queue is pretty light
2025-04-29 14:15:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> There are some topics though.
2025-04-29 14:15:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think the Matrix issue ties into an open MR
2025-04-29 14:16:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We could use this slot to get some MRs reviewed and/or merged.
2025-04-29 14:16:40 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am seeing Matrix WG formalization steps as a topic, and for docs MRs, the initial outline of the Matrix WG and Flock volunteer roles
2025-04-29 14:16:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Not seeing any other topics triaged for today, so let's go with that and then we can have an early open floor.
2025-04-29 14:17:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic !33: "📝 docs(flock): Add initial Flock Volunteer Role Handbook"
2025-04-29 14:17:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/merge_requests/33
2025-04-29 14:17:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I spent some time on this yesterday, following up on feedback collected over the last few weeks.
2025-04-29 14:17:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I wanted to leave some time for folks to take a look and review this MR.
2025-04-29 14:17:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It needs someone to click "approve" for it to be merged though.
2025-04-29 14:17:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I would appreciate any questions or comments on this doc before it gets merged!
2025-04-29 14:19:39 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We can take 4-5 minutes to review. Then we can spend time on the next one
2025-04-29 14:19:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh lol it just merged
2025-04-29 14:20:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Looks like Adrian Edwards (use @irradiated_lemming:matrix.org) reviewed it
2025-04-29 14:20:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> However, feedback is still welcome and appreciated
2025-04-29 14:20:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We can still take a few minutes to review. I am curious what folks think about the changes I made here: https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/merge_requests/33/diffs?commit_id=056208ff0b9243c4d3935d363b4eb22f01e6427a
2025-04-29 14:20:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This addressed feedback from Aoife Moloney and jnsamyak.
2025-04-29 14:25:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK, five minutes past… shaunm Neil Hanlon Chris Onoja Idoko Yaash, any feedback here, or on to Matrix?
2025-04-29 14:26:06 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> no comments from me; though full disclosure i'm triple booked right now
2025-04-29 14:26:14 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i did reviewlast week i think
2025-04-29 14:26:44 <@shaunm:matrix.org> lgtm so far
2025-04-29 14:27:06 <@chris_idoko:matrix.org> no comments from me at this time
2025-04-29 14:27:14 <@shaunm:matrix.org> but, y'know, sometimes you only see what's missing after the fact :)
2025-04-29 14:27:27 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> it would be good to see that implemented 🤔
2025-04-29 14:27:27 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> 
2025-04-29 14:27:27 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> and that's it from me...
2025-04-29 14:27:27 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> 
2025-04-29 14:27:27 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> because i don't know how we are going to help and how much time we need to commit
2025-04-29 14:27:27 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> especially the Volunteer Lead Contact and Time Commitment
2025-04-29 14:27:27 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> 
2025-04-29 14:27:27 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> and I think both of their feedbacks makes sense
2025-04-29 14:27:27 <@thisisyaash:fedora.im> so far everything looks good to me (as im new to volunteering)
2025-04-29 14:27:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Of course, but that is why we iterate 😄 For now though, just getting it mostly right is enough.
2025-04-29 14:27:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Alright folks, thanks for the feedback!
2025-04-29 14:27:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's keep moving.
2025-04-29 14:28:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !agreed Changes looked good to present reviewers. MR is now merged. New page will be published on docs.fp.o within an hour or so.
2025-04-29 14:30:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Sorry, got lost in the GitLab follow-up 🙂 
2025-04-29 14:30:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I also posted a summary comment in the MR
2025-04-29 14:30:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Getting the next topic prepped now…
2025-04-29 14:31:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic #70: "Fedora Matrix Moderation: Adding as a CommOps responsibility"
2025-04-29 14:31:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/issues/70
2025-04-29 14:31:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info The MR that proposed the overall structure for the Matrix WG is available, and nearly ready to be merged.
2025-04-29 14:31:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/home/-/merge_requests/34
2025-04-29 14:32:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Steve, Steve Cossette [Farchord], and nirik have shared some thoughts already in the MR. It is to those comments of feedback that I want to respond for the charter. _However_…
2025-04-29 14:33:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think now is the right time to open up some calls for help, and widening out the call for participation.
2025-04-29 14:33:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think we are ready to start approaching topics like, "What is an _official_ Fedora Matrix room?"
2025-04-29 14:33:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> "How do I nominate someone as a Matrix moderator and admin?"
2025-04-29 14:34:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think at this point, we are looking for help from folks to take a first go at drafting some sort of policy docs.
2025-04-29 14:34:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think a Google Doc for initial feedback is a good idea, and later, we can convert it into a Fedora Doc.
2025-04-29 14:34:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Charter is nearly ready, but now is a good time for more participation on formalizing aspects of the Fedora governance of our shared Matrix resources.
2025-04-29 14:35:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !help Need help with creating first drafts of official Fedora Project Matrix room policy, how to nominate new moderators and admins for the Fedora space, advice/howto on Matrix moderation best practices for Fedora Matrix mods, etc.
2025-04-29 14:35:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> `Need help with creating first drafts of official Fedora Project Matrix room policy, how to nominate new moderators and admins for the Fedora space, advice/howto on Matrix moderation best practices for Fedora Matrix mods, etc.` is not a valid command
2025-04-29 14:35:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh.
2025-04-29 14:35:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !halp Need help with creating first drafts of official Fedora Project Matrix room policy, how to nominate new moderators and admins for the Fedora space, advice/howto on Matrix moderation best practices for Fedora Matrix mods, etc.
2025-04-29 14:36:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Of course, now is still a good time to leave feedback on the existing GitLab MR if you have any.
2025-04-29 14:36:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But that window for feedback is closing 😉 
2025-04-29 14:36:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, now is a good chance for someone to take a go at helping us create some guidelines and policy
2025-04-29 14:36:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyone have questions? Thoughts? Interests?
2025-04-29 14:39:35 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I think it's a really good idea but I don't have much time to dedicate right now
2025-04-29 14:40:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That is fair.
2025-04-29 14:40:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We can keep it open while the charter is worked on
2025-04-29 14:41:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @jflory7 Revise Matrix WG doc with feedback from reviewers on GitLab MR !34
2025-04-29 14:42:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info We will widen the call for participation in drafting the Matrix guidelines/policies.
2025-04-29 14:42:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, that was the agenda.
2025-04-29 14:42:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2025-04-29 14:42:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyone else have anything they want to throw out there?
2025-04-29 14:43:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Chris Onoja Idoko: Did you have anything else you wanted to expand on here?
2025-04-29 14:44:40 <@chris_idoko:matrix.org> Not really, i think we already have a structured approach on the ticket 
2025-04-29 14:45:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK. Then that works for me!
2025-04-29 14:45:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Any other topics for open floor?
2025-04-29 14:45:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> _Going once…_
2025-04-29 14:45:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> #### _Going twice…_
2025-04-29 14:46:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ### _Going thrice…_
2025-04-29 14:46:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## 💥
2025-04-29 14:46:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks folks for your time today!
2025-04-29 14:46:43 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Thanks Justin!
2025-04-29 14:46:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> See ya next time 👋
2025-04-29 14:46:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !endmeeting