2025-10-16 10:03:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora Mindshare Committee Meeting - 2025-10-16
2025-10-16 10:03:06 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-10-16 10:03:05 UTC
2025-10-16 10:03:06 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora Mindshare Committee Meeting - 2025-10-16'
2025-10-16 10:03:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !meetingname mindshare
2025-10-16 10:03:10 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now mindshare
2025-10-16 10:03:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Agenda
2025-10-16 10:04:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info 2. Team announcements & news
2025-10-16 10:04:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info 1. Intros, welcomes, hellos
2025-10-16 10:04:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info 4. Ticket discussions
2025-10-16 10:04:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info 3. Follow-ups from last meeting
2025-10-16 10:04:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info 5. Open floor & Action Items
2025-10-16 10:04:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Intros, welcomes, hellos
2025-10-16 10:04:21 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-16 10:04:23 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Akashdeep Dhar (t0xic0der) - he / him / his
2025-10-16 10:04:30 <@ekidney:matrix.org> !hi
2025-10-16 10:04:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info We'll start with a quick round of introductions for any new folks. Please say `!hi` 👋
2025-10-16 10:04:32 <@zodbot:fedora.im> emma kidney (ekidney) - she / her / hers
2025-10-16 10:04:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-16 10:04:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Justin Wheeler (jflory7) - he / him / his
2025-10-16 10:04:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Howdy folks 👋
2025-10-16 10:05:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Good morning, good afternoon, good evening!
2025-10-16 10:05:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !group members mindshare
2025-10-16 10:05:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Members of mindshare: Aoife Moloney, emma kidney, Greg Sutcliffe, jflory7 (@jflory7:fedora.im, @fca:fedoraproject.org), Joseph Gayoso, lbazan, Sumantro Mukherjee, Akashdeep Dhar
2025-10-16 10:05:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> How is everyone doing today?
2025-10-16 10:05:46 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Apart from getting nervous about organizing my Brother's wedding (and bachelor's party before that), all good 🤩
2025-10-16 10:05:57 <@ekidney:matrix.org> oooh exciting!! 
2025-10-16 10:06:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, wedding planning. I feel that 😄 
2025-10-16 10:06:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Uhhh, as it happens, I was just in a bridal store 😅
2025-10-16 10:07:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I know Aoife Moloney was planning to be here before she formally hands over. Not sure if Gwmngilfen and Sumantro Mukherjee are around, but we can plug forward.
2025-10-16 10:07:24 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Indian weddings can be, for a lack of a better word, overwhelming haha...
2025-10-16 10:07:30 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-16 10:07:31 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney (amoloney)
2025-10-16 10:07:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Present: @jflory7, @t0xic0der, @ekidney, @amoloney
2025-10-16 10:07:49 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Gwmngilfen is on PTO according to the team calendar
2025-10-16 10:07:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Howdy Aoife Moloney!
2025-10-16 10:08:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aha. Then I definitely hope he will _not_ show up 🙂 
2025-10-16 10:08:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Team announcements & news
2025-10-16 10:08:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Fedora 43 Release: A reminder that Fedora Linux 43 is scheduled to release next month. This is a key time for our Recognition and Digital Ambassadorship efforts.
2025-10-16 10:09:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Discussion is ongoing on adopting an AI-assisted contributions policy for Fedora. A final draft is proposed and is under review by the Council. A vote is anticipated within the next week. A callout was shared on the devel-announce mailing list about the policy draft.
2025-10-16 10:09:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/542#comment-989257
2025-10-16 10:09:39 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hey Sumantro Mukherjee!
2025-10-16 10:09:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/council-policy-proposal-policy-on-ai-assisted-contributions/165092/233
2025-10-16 10:10:06 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> hello Justin Wheeler !
2025-10-16 10:10:07 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Welcome back, Sumantro Mukherjee! 
2025-10-16 10:10:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info A new Fedora Community Initiative was recently proposed about the Fedora Docs team. A full proposal is available on the Wiki and a Fedora Discussion topic is open to invite feedback from the community, ahead of an official vote on the Council. Have thoughts on Fedora Docs? Check out the proposal and leave your feedback.
2025-10-16 10:10:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Initiatives/Fedora_Docs_2025
2025-10-16 10:10:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-council-tickets-ticket-543-new-initiative-fedora-docs-2025/167686
2025-10-16 10:10:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That is all I have for announcements.
2025-10-16 10:10:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyone else want to share something?
2025-10-16 10:11:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info +Present: @sumantrom 
2025-10-16 10:11:54 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> None from my end
2025-10-16 10:11:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## Team announcements and news, going once…
2025-10-16 10:12:05 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Akashdeep Dhar glad to be back! 
2025-10-16 10:12:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## Team announcements and news, going twice…
2025-10-16 10:12:14 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> nothing from my end as well!
2025-10-16 10:12:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ## Team announcements and news, going thrice…
2025-10-16 10:12:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 💥
2025-10-16 10:12:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Follow-ups from last meeting
2025-10-16 10:12:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anything we want to follow up on from last time?
2025-10-16 10:13:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: I'll check with you, anything to cover here, or onto tickets?
2025-10-16 10:13:38 <@amoloney:fedora.im> i think the council rep was raised last time with the next meeting when the committee would decide 
2025-10-16 10:13:49 <@amoloney:fedora.im> so we could jump to that ticket if you want?
2025-10-16 10:13:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I put that ticket on for discussion today 🙂 
2025-10-16 10:14:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info We discussed the Council rep selection last time – and we will discuss this ticket today!
2025-10-16 10:14:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> In lieu of anything else, let's push on 🙂 
2025-10-16 10:14:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Ticket discussions
2025-10-16 10:14:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, I picked four tickets that seemed sensible to me
2025-10-16 10:14:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info !topic Ticket #82: Define committee's coordination model with Mindshare Teams
2025-10-16 10:14:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Ticket #80: Committee Member Role Definition and Onboarding
2025-10-16 10:15:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Ticket #79: Fedora Council Rep Nomination
2025-10-16 10:15:18 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Do these three feel fair?
2025-10-16 10:15:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Any thoughts on the order?
2025-10-16 10:15:25 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Sounds good
2025-10-16 10:15:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I guess in numerical order makes sense?
2025-10-16 10:16:18 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Slight preference to recent tickets, first maybe?
2025-10-16 10:16:18 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Any order works as long as we get through them 😅
2025-10-16 10:16:19 <@amoloney:fedora.im> sounds fine to me, I just have one item for the end of the meeting for the committee rgarding the elections 
2025-10-16 10:16:55 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> sounds fine to me as well. as long as we can get 'em done. 
2025-10-16 10:17:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Then let's not delay 🙂 
2025-10-16 10:17:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ACK
2025-10-16 10:17:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Ticket #79: Fedora Council Rep Nomination
2025-10-16 10:17:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> My third time authenticating with GitLab today, pls hold…
2025-10-16 10:18:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info This is an overdue action to select our representative to the Fedora Council. The nomination period closed on Sept 3. Our goal is to hold a formal vote or confirm the nominated representative for the 12-month term.
2025-10-16 10:18:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/mindshare/home/-/issues/79
2025-10-16 10:18:52 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> that reminds me , my phone died and it has the GL 2FA code gen :( 
2025-10-16 10:18:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So far, I just see Akashdeep Dhar as self-selected nominee.
2025-10-16 10:19:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am curious if anyone else is interested in this.
2025-10-16 10:19:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I also have a slight preference for trying to open up opportunities for folks who have not been on Council to serve, and maybe bring a perspective we have not had on Council in a long time
2025-10-16 10:19:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am thinking Marketing with Joseph Gayoso, Design with Emma Kidney, or even Gwmngilfen on Infra (although we definitely have some Infra perspectives on Council today).
2025-10-16 10:20:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But I don't want to put anyone on the spot.
2025-10-16 10:20:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And it is a big commitment too.
2025-10-16 10:20:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Are there any questions about this?
2025-10-16 10:20:47 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> None from my end
2025-10-16 10:21:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Luis Bazan also is doing a lot in LATAM community building too, and we honestly have little to no visibility in LATAM at the Council since maybe a decade? But I am thinking aloud here
2025-10-16 10:21:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But the deadline is way past, and we need to get in gear on this too.
2025-10-16 10:22:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Could we make a rally call for nominations to conclude in one week, and then have votes filed by the next meeting? So, ideally, we make the vote official in the next meeting.
2025-10-16 10:22:08 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Any interested parties would have conveyed their interests by now is what I think.
2025-10-16 10:22:08 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> FWIW the nominations have been open for over a month at this point.
2025-10-16 10:22:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am not sure how much this role was discussed before in previous meetings.
2025-10-16 10:23:20 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> !link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2025-09-04/fedora-mindshare-committee.2025-09-04-10.01.html
2025-10-16 10:23:44 <@lbazan:fedora.im> here
2025-10-16 10:23:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> It wasnt discussed at all, but Im not sure what could have been said really. One personal note - whoever takes part in the council, I would prefer to see them engaged and active. So the time commitment would be the main requirement for me for this rep
2025-10-16 10:23:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I can concur with this, though. I am a bit ignorant because I was gone for two months. If there are no other takers, then let's just get this done.
2025-10-16 10:24:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Agreed
2025-10-16 10:24:12 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hey Luis Bazan!
2025-10-16 10:24:20 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Since then, we did not have any meetings so... 🤷
2025-10-16 10:24:20 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> It already has been opened for a couple of weeks, about a month back.
2025-10-16 10:24:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK, since this has been open for many months, let's just make some votes in the ticket!
2025-10-16 10:25:11 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Im +1 to Akash, he put himself forward 
2025-10-16 10:25:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Can I action you all to pls vote in the ticket so it is logged?
2025-10-16 10:25:27 <@amoloney:fedora.im> although as not a real member I dont have a 'legal' vote :D
2025-10-16 10:26:17 <@ekidney:matrix.org>  done 🙂
2025-10-16 10:26:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @joseph @lbazan @ekidney @gwmngilfen @sumantrom Add vote for Council rep in Ticket #79
2025-10-16 10:26:31 <@amoloney:fedora.im> (nor do I need one)
2025-10-16 10:26:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Akashdeep Dhar: We can discuss the onboarding steps as a new Council member outside of this meeting. But as a past Council member, this won't be anything new for you!
2025-10-16 10:26:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's get to the more interesting and thoughtful topics for today
2025-10-16 10:27:05 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Roger.
2025-10-16 10:27:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Ticket #80: Committee Member Role Definition and Onboarding
2025-10-16 10:27:18 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info This ticket is about clarifying our own roles. The discussion has highlighted an urgent need to define what a "Digital Ambassador" is and to set a realistic, initial scope for that program, considering team capacity. Our goal is to agree on a working definition and a "v1.0" set of initial goals.
2025-10-16 10:27:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/mindshare/home/-/issues/80
2025-10-16 10:27:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oops, I need to go AFK for 3-4 mins
2025-10-16 10:27:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Be right back.
2025-10-16 10:27:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Please take a look and read through the ticket!
2025-10-16 10:29:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> A quick preview of the ticket 
2025-10-16 10:29:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think Emma Kidney raised a good point 
2025-10-16 10:29:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> About Digital Ambassadors being confusing 
2025-10-16 10:30:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee: Could you jump in here? This was your brain child :) 
2025-10-16 10:30:38 <@ekidney:matrix.org> I like Josephs answer! Cleared it up for me anyway 🙂 
2025-10-16 10:30:52 <@ekidney:matrix.org> If that was the original intention that is 
2025-10-16 10:31:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oops I didn't get that far yet 
2025-10-16 10:31:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I should read it all heheh 
2025-10-16 10:31:15 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/mindshare/home/-/issues/80#note_2759104647
2025-10-16 10:32:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Ah, I see it 
2025-10-16 10:32:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hmm
2025-10-16 10:32:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But Joseph also mentions some things about in-person activities and how that merges with digital ambassadorships 
2025-10-16 10:33:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It feels confusing to me with the traditional role of Ambassadors, and how this all overlaps 
2025-10-16 10:34:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> On one hand, I like the idea of "decentralizing" the work of the Marketing Team through people's own brands and platforms 
2025-10-16 10:34:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Like, anyone can make social media posts and create content Fedora, even if it is not on our official channels 
2025-10-16 10:34:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It would be nice to have guidance for that 
2025-10-16 10:34:41 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> When it came to the "digital ambassadorship", I kinda thought more in the context of the activity on the platforms like Discourse, Matrix etc. that are in a way internal to the Fedora Project community
2025-10-16 10:34:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Reading through the rest of the charter, though—
2025-10-16 10:35:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/#responsibilities
2025-10-16 10:35:10 <@lbazan:fedora.im> The digital ambassador is also likely based in a specific country and probably attends physical events only within their country or state, and not beyond that. maybe…
2025-10-16 10:35:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I'm not hearing anyone say that Regional Events and Recognition Support as difficult to understand 
2025-10-16 10:35:40 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Activity of the Fedora Mindshare committee folks among, say, various subprojects or SIGs, while not being a part of them could help the governing bodies understand the health of these teams and just what they need to grow.
2025-10-16 10:35:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Mmm, from my conversations with Sumantro Mukherjee, the vision for this pillar was external
2025-10-16 10:36:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think CommOps has more of the internal focus than Mindshare should 
2025-10-16 10:36:12 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Well, here is an idea. 
2025-10-16 10:36:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> There are lots of ideas on the table 
2025-10-16 10:36:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And no one person can fulfill this whole charter 
2025-10-16 10:36:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> The elected roles are as administrator roles 
2025-10-16 10:36:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, I think we need an "owner" for each part of the charter 
2025-10-16 10:36:43 <@emma:rory.gay> i wonder how this pinged me
2025-10-16 10:36:49 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> It would also end up creating a roadblock based on the availability of budgets (or lack thereof). 
2025-10-16 10:36:49 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Umm... but how's that "Digital"? 🤔
2025-10-16 10:36:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Someone who takes the lead on each pillar of the Fedora Mindshare Committee charter 
2025-10-16 10:37:05 <@ekidney:matrix.org> maybe they could be merged? Start as a digital ambassador and then you could progress to just an ambassador? or just have them be a subset of the other
2025-10-16 10:37:05 <@emma:rory.gay> oh, i checked source on that message, now it makes sense
2025-10-16 10:37:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Unfortunately, this is correct. The Regional Event Support pillar is more relevant for the in-person activities
2025-10-16 10:37:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I like this ambition. The challenge with onboarding Ambassadors for in-person events and the like, is that it takes a lot of knowledge of Fedora to be a guide and rep of the community. Bridging from digital to in-person would be easier
2025-10-16 10:38:17 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> The overlaps could hence cause the confusion in what actually needs to be done.
2025-10-16 10:38:17 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> The likelihood of merges and clashes is likely with either Fedora Marketing (for the external focus) or Fedora Commops (for the internal focus).
2025-10-16 10:38:18 <@amoloney:fedora.im> A friendly reminder, dont let a beautiful dream get in the way of a good, functioning group :) If role definitions need to change to reflect a reality, I would say do it! The reviews were actioned so that current members can give real feedback on how these roles are structured vs how they'd be achieved by members
2025-10-16 10:39:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hmm. I don't see this in our charter. It was very much a part of the vision for the old Mindshare Committee, but my long-held view is that it locks this kind of contribution into an elected body. Ergo, CommOps is more effective as a team-based contribution model for internal connections instead of a committee-based contribution model.
2025-10-16 10:39:46 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Fair, we could use a change in how we do things (and also, in WHAT we do). 👍️
2025-10-16 10:39:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yes. I agree. And I don't want to put stop energy into the mix of the wisdom and experience folks already have here.
2025-10-16 10:40:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I know y'all are passionate people :) 
2025-10-16 10:40:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think we need to divide and conquer on this. 
2025-10-16 10:40:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> As I slowly climb back on, my #1 focus will be on being a connection to Fedora budget, and bringing more transparency into how we can vote and decide on budget for regional events 
2025-10-16 10:41:06 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Yeah, in retrospect, that felt more CommOps-y than Mindshare-y with some overlaps here and there... 
2025-10-16 10:41:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But I don't want to be the lead for any of these focus areas in the charter. Ideally, I am helping coordinate with all the leads for each part of the charter 
2025-10-16 10:41:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I probably need to write a blog post about this. A lot of stuff is in my head.
2025-10-16 10:42:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, let me think aloud. 
2025-10-16 10:43:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think Luis Bazan has a lot of passion for regional events. I think he could be a good lead, but this part of the charter is really big, and a regional perspective is useful 
2025-10-16 10:43:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think Emma Kidney already coordinates a lot with Marketing as our Design Team member, and there is a natural collaboration there with Emma and Joseph Gayoso: 
2025-10-16 10:43:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think the two of them could be excellent leads on Digital Ambassadorships 
2025-10-16 10:44:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Akashdeep Dhar: i see you hacking on Badges, sir 😜
2025-10-16 10:44:04 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> How about we have everyone responsible for their own geographical area for their regional events? (For APAC, Sumantro Mukherjee can maybe take the lead?)
2025-10-16 10:44:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And what are Badges other Than digital recognition?
2025-10-16 10:44:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Of course, there is more than Badges to digital recognition 
2025-10-16 10:44:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But maybe you could partner with Sumantro Mukherjee or Gwmngilfen as Infra folks with an eye towards ambassadorship globally? 
2025-10-16 10:45:01 <@lbazan:fedora.im> I agree, and if everyone is in agreement, I would be happy to take responsibility for the regional events.
2025-10-16 10:45:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> In theory, it is nice, but what happens when we have an election and the geography changes? Also, if people change the region they live in 🌚
2025-10-16 10:45:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think you should find a buddy to tackle this one! This one will work with me a lot on budget too, but there is a lot to unpack on this one
2025-10-16 10:46:09 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Ah fair - We can't let Geos influence elections (or vice versa). I take it back.
2025-10-16 10:46:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Then I think Recognition is a good focus for you, in the Mindshare charter :)
2025-10-16 10:46:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We should absolutely take a global view towards how we organize things. But we can all do this informally through our literal geographic positions
2025-10-16 10:47:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, and important clarification 
2025-10-16 10:47:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Being the lead does not mean "only this person does this" 
2025-10-16 10:47:18 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We are not gatekeepimg :) 
2025-10-16 10:47:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But we need someone to be accountable 
2025-10-16 10:47:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Instead of "let's ask Justin about all the things and to do all the things" 😁
2025-10-16 10:48:01 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Last three years in a nutshell ;P
2025-10-16 10:48:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Emma Kidney: WDYT about Digital Ambassadorship? Is this remotely interesting to you? And maybe tag-teaming it with Joseph? 
2025-10-16 10:48:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think you and Joseph could be amazing to think through resources to help people be effective advocates for Fedora 
2025-10-16 10:48:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> The Marketing and Design roles are super influential there 
2025-10-16 10:48:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But if you want to ponder, you don't have to sign up now :) 
2025-10-16 10:48:54 <@ekidney:matrix.org> yah definitely!
2025-10-16 10:49:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I do feel strongly everyone should have some ownership on parts of our charter though 
2025-10-16 10:49:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Amazing!
2025-10-16 10:49:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, let me try to do a quick recap here 
2025-10-16 10:49:46 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Helps folks with get started with stuff without having to wait for stuff being told to them.
2025-10-16 10:49:46 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Agreed.
2025-10-16 10:49:51 <@ekidney:matrix.org> are we to suggest changes to how the charter is written? Am I understanding that right? 
2025-10-16 10:49:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And unfortunately, we probably won't have time to discuss the third ticket 
2025-10-16 10:50:04 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> TIME CHECK - We're at the last 11 minutes, folks!
2025-10-16 10:50:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That's OK, I feel better if we have clear ownership on parts of our charter 
2025-10-16 10:50:18 <@jflory7:fedora.im> (I know Aoife has an elections topic too)
2025-10-16 10:50:29 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I need to make a proposal to the committee, should be very quick
2025-10-16 10:51:32 <@amoloney:fedora.im> in the new structure, the 4 seats were assigned as: Top 2 voted = 1 yr term, 3 + 4 voted in = 6 month term. I dont think this actually makes much sense, so I propose the committee change this to the full 4 voted seats serve a 1 yr term
2025-10-16 10:51:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Great question. I would say, this is absolutely in scope! If a lead wants to revise the charter to be more realistic / actionable, then we should. However, if what is written works as is, then the lead is the person who should be the one to take on efforts in that part of the charter. Proposing new ideas, getting feedback from community, in general being the directly responsible person for that section of the Mindshare Committee charter. And importantly, repping that back to the rest of the Committee
2025-10-16 10:52:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh right. I forgot this is how we designed it.
2025-10-16 10:52:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I like the idea of an annual election more than biannual elections
2025-10-16 10:52:50 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> If you're asking for a votes, I'mma a +1 to this because this allows for folks to actually be able to "execute" what they plan and then pass it on to people, rather than planning it and passing it to others until the coming cycle.
2025-10-16 10:54:22 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> The folks coming in the next cycle might have their plans and it would not be fair to have things "assigned" to them from the previous term. I like to think of the committee as a place where how people do things is very personal to them. <3
2025-10-16 10:54:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 
2025-10-16 10:54:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Digital Ambassadorship: Emma Kidney to take the lead, and most likely in tandem with Joseph Gayoso as our Marketing Team voice.
2025-10-16 10:54:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 
2025-10-16 10:54:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Recognition Service: Akashdeep Dhar to take the lead here, ideally also with another Committee member. Badges and swag are important considerations here.
2025-10-16 10:54:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 
2025-10-16 10:54:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Regional Event Support: Luis Bazan to take the lead here. Ideally, also with one other member of Mindshare Committee. This part of the charter will coordinate closely with me, especially as 2026 event season creeps upon us.
2025-10-16 10:54:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, but quick recap on ownership.
2025-10-16 10:54:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 💯💯
2025-10-16 10:54:49 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !proposal The Mindshare Committee will change their elected representatives term to a one year cycle for all four seats, rather than a split of two seats serving one year and two seats serving 6 months. This is effective immediately and the next Mindshare election will be after the F44 Release cycle where four seats will be up for election, for a one year term each
2025-10-16 10:55:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> +1 to that
2025-10-16 10:55:10 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Please vote on that and if you are ok, Justin Wheeler feel free to stick an !agreed statement on that
2025-10-16 10:55:15 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Ask Gwmngilfen maybe to co-represent digital recognition (But yeah, ask first before assigning I guess)
2025-10-16 10:55:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Can we also vote on this as a !proposed?
2025-10-16 10:55:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am on mobile now and my meeting facilitation skills are terrible for the next five minutes 😝
2025-10-16 10:55:56 <@lbazan:fedora.im> +1
2025-10-16 10:55:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think I have an action item for you 😉
2025-10-16 10:56:01 <@ekidney:matrix.org> +1 to both proposals 😄 
2025-10-16 10:56:14 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Given you're on a mobile phone, I'd say you did some exemplary stuff - typing all of that, so quickly. 
2025-10-16 10:56:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> To both?
2025-10-16 10:56:19 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Justin Wheeler++
2025-10-16 10:56:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> t0xic0der gave a cookie to jflory7. They now have 410 cookies, 19 of which were obtained in the Fedora 42 release cycle
2025-10-16 10:56:35 <@lbazan:fedora.im> +1 both proposals
2025-10-16 10:56:39 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> +1 to both the proposals!
2025-10-16 10:57:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Sometimes, I think my WPM typing speed might just drive Aoife Moloney mad in Council meetings 😂
2025-10-16 10:57:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 🫣
2025-10-16 10:57:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Well, it sounds like we have agreement 
2025-10-16 10:57:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And we even covered Aoife's open floor topic 
2025-10-16 10:57:47 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> To reach out to him on this? Sure.
2025-10-16 10:57:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: If you are at a keyboard, could you help me write the agreed for both proposals? 
2025-10-16 10:57:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And then we wrap this party up :) 
2025-10-16 10:57:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, I have an important action for me too 
2025-10-16 10:57:59 <@amoloney:fedora.im> can do!
2025-10-16 10:58:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yep! 
2025-10-16 10:58:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @t0xic0der Ping Greg about his interest in co-leading Recognition Service with Akashdeep 
2025-10-16 10:58:32 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !agreed The Mindshare Committee will change their elected representatives term to a one year cycle for all four seats, rather than a split of two seats serving one year and two seats serving 6 months. This is effective immediately and the next Mindshare election will be after the F44 Release cycle where four seats will be up for election, for a one year term each
2025-10-16 10:58:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> 
2025-10-16 10:58:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !agreed Regional Event Support: Luis Bazan to take the lead here. Ideally, also with one other member of Mindshare Committee. This part of the charter will coordinate closely with me, especially as 2026 event season creeps upon us.
2025-10-16 10:58:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Recognition Service: Akashdeep Dhar to take the lead here, ideally also with another Committee member. Badges and swag are important considerations here.
2025-10-16 10:58:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> 
2025-10-16 10:58:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Digital Ambassadorship: Emma Kidney to take the lead, and most likely in tandem with Joseph Gayoso as our Marketing Team voice.
2025-10-16 10:58:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @jflory7 Summarize today's Mindshare Committee meeting in a Fedora Discussion topic, share in tickets as an update as needed 
2025-10-16 10:59:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @lbazan Identify another member of Mindshare Committee to co-lead Regional Event Support 
2025-10-16 10:59:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @ekidney Follow up with @joseph on his interest in co-leading Digital Ambassadorship
2025-10-16 10:59:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Niceeeeee, I think we got it all 
2025-10-16 10:59:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And a minute to spare, even 
2025-10-16 11:00:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Okay folks. This was feature packed. But we did it! 
2025-10-16 11:00:14 <@amoloney:fedora.im> a very efficient group :)
2025-10-16 11:00:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And we covered a lot. Even if we did not get that third ticket. 
2025-10-16 11:00:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We'll cover it next time. 
2025-10-16 11:00:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: And a special thanks to you, for being the wrangler during my medical leave 
2025-10-16 11:00:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We will miss you, both here and also generally as you focus on some very important things for a few months :D
2025-10-16 11:00:48 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney++
2025-10-16 11:00:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> t0xic0der has already given cookies to amoloney during the F42 timeframe
2025-10-16 11:00:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I didnt do much, and its been very easy to work with all you folks :)
2025-10-16 11:00:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney++
2025-10-16 11:00:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jflory7 has already given cookies to amoloney during the F42 timeframe
2025-10-16 11:01:04 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Congrats and good luck, Aoife Moloney!
2025-10-16 11:01:13 <@lbazan:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney++
2025-10-16 11:01:15 <@zodbot:fedora.im> lbazan gave a cookie to amoloney. They now have 103 cookies, 26 of which were obtained in the Fedora 42 release cycle
2025-10-16 11:01:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's wrap and yield the channel in case someone is up next. 
2025-10-16 11:01:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I'll see ya folks in Fedora Mindshare! 
2025-10-16 11:01:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Later 😎
2025-10-16 11:01:33 <@amoloney:fedora.im> 🫡 👶
2025-10-16 11:01:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !endmeeting