#meeting:fedoraproject.org: F44 Final Go/No-Go meeting

Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 18:00:38 UTC

Meeting summary

  1. TOPIC:Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:00:46)
    1. INFO: This is determined in a few ways: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:03:17)
  2. TOPIC:Purpose of this meeting (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:03:17)
    1. INFO: Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F44 Final is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:03:17)
  3. TOPIC:Current status - RC (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:03:42)
    1. AGREED: RC-1.2 is available and will be discussed for release readiness (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:04:08)
  4. TOPIC:Current status - blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:04:20)
    1. LINK: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/44/final/buglist (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:04:20)
    2. INFO: This section will be led by...also me *puts on different hat* (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:04:31)
  5. TOPIC:Proposed Final blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:04:53)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2458907 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:04:59)
    2. INFO: Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:04:59)
    3. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/2113 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:04:59)
  6. TOPIC:(2458907) Installation of the system failed: Storing configuration files and kickstarts org.fedoraproject.Anaconda.Error: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'path' (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:04:59)
    1. AGREED: 2458907 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a conditional violation of "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system and/or container format combination offered in a default installer configuration" (and other storage-y criteria). It doesn't happen every time even to affected scenarios, but we believe there are 31 open reports of this, which feels like a lot, enough to justify blocker status (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:37:05)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/2109 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:37:13)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:37:13)
  7. TOPIC:(2457333) Grub environment block is corrupted at first boot (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:37:13)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2457333 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:37:13)
    2. AGREED: 2457333 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this is rejected on the basis we don't believe it has serious practical consequences beyond the ugly errors; it was suggested that it makes getting into the grub menu harder, but we don't think that's true, we think it's only as hard as it always has been on installs that use menu_auto_hide. We will leave FE decision to happen async (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:53:08)
  8. TOPIC:(2441941) Graphics break when trying to type LUKS password and (2455924) ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13: black screen when typing LUKS password (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:53:46)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2441941 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:53:50)
    2. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2455924 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:53:52)
    3. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/2047 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:54:04)
    4. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/2097 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:54:08)
    5. INFO: Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (both) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:54:12)
    6. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+nielsenb, +psklenar) (2441941) FinalBlocker (+3,0,-0) (+pstourac, +asciiwolf, +psklenar) (2455924) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:54:31)
    7. INFO: switching to single bug topic (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:28:38)
    8. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/2097 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:28:48)
  9. TOPIC:(2455924) ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13: black screen when typing LUKS password (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:28:48)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2455924 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:28:48)
    2. INFO: Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:28:48)
    3. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+3,0,-0) (+pstourac, +asciiwolf, +psklenar) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:28:48)
    4. AGREED: - 2455924 - punt (delay decision) - we do not have a clear call on this bug (we're at +4 / -4 in meeting, +6 / -4 with tracker votes added). we'll continue with the other proposed blockers then circle back later if necessary (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:37:59)
    5. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/2047 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:38:12)
    6. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2441941 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:38:12)
  10. TOPIC:(2441941) Graphics break when trying to type LUKS password (Dell XPS 13 Plus, jeischmann) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:38:12)
    1. INFO: Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:38:12)
    2. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+nielsenb, +psklenar) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:38:12)
    3. AGREED: 2441941 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this specific case seems different from other early-boot graphics issues and so far seems specific to the XPS Plus 9320 (other folks commenting on the bug clearly have very different hardware and don't describe the same symptoms). On that basis it's rejected as a blocker for not being known to affect a wide-enough range of hardware (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:47:06)
    4. INFO: Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:47:31)
    5. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-1) (+loquser, -pbrobinson) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:47:31)
    6. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/2111 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:47:31)
  11. TOPIC:(2458899) An update broke the realtek chip rtl8852be on fedora 44 kde (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:47:31)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2458899 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:47:31)
    2. AGREED: 2458899 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - so far there is only one report of this that we can find, and sgallagh has the same chip in his system and it's working fine on F44. So with the available info at this point we cannot conclude that this has a wide enough hardware impact to be considered a blocker (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:58:58)
    3. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+derekenz) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:59:13)
  12. TOPIC:(2458901) An incomplete spanned btrfs makes anaconda not see the drive, and crash when rescanning (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:59:13)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2458901 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:59:13)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/2112 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:59:13)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED (@adamwill:fedora.im, 19:59:13)
    4. AGREED: 2458901 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of the criteria cited in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2458901#c10 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:07:56)
    5. INFO: that's all the proposed blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:08:14)
  13. TOPIC:Waiver consideration (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:08:27)
    1. INFO: the following bugs are currently accepted blockers: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:09:26)
    2. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2448283 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:09:35)
    3. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2453216 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:09:40)
    4. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2458907 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:09:44)
    5. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2458901 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:09:50)
    6. AGREED: this is all Jef's fault (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:15:17)
    7. AGREED: there is no proposal to waive all four outstanding accepted blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:15:59)
  14. TOPIC:Go/No-Go decision (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:17:18)
    1. AGREED: Fedora Linux 44 Final is NO-GO (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:19:24)
    2. INFO: The next F44 Final Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday, 2026-04-23 at 1800 UTC (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:19:55)
    3. INFO: F44 Final shifts to target date #2: Tuesday 2026-04-28 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:20:15)
    4. ACTION: jspaleta to announce decision (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:20:23)
  15. TOPIC:Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 20:23:31)


Meeting ended at 20:25:53 UTC

Action items

  1. jspaleta to announce decision


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