14:03:03 <DrBacchus> #startmeeting
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14:03:11 <DrBacchus> #chair mburned
14:03:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: DrBacchus mburned
14:03:14 <DrBacchus> yay!
14:03:19 <mburned> ;-)
14:03:26 <DrBacchus> #help
14:03:40 <mburned> #meetingname  RDO Community Sync
14:03:40 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_community_sync'
14:03:46 <DrBacchus> That's what I was looking for. :)
14:04:15 <DrBacchus> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo_community_manager_sync
14:04:29 <DrBacchus> Ok, not very much on the list for today.
14:04:35 <DrBacchus> #topic Test Day
14:04:35 <mburned> #topic agenda
14:04:41 <DrBacchus> oops.
14:04:50 <mburned> ok, we can jump in...
14:04:55 <mburned> talk about the test day
14:05:26 <DrBacchus> We'll be doing a test day on Feb 4-5. It sounds like people are in agreement that we can have packages by then.
14:05:36 <pixelb> summary of new stuff for then
14:05:52 <pixelb> Icehouse Milestone 2 on el6
14:05:57 <pixelb> Icehouse Milestone 2 on el7 (new)
14:06:03 <mburned> #info test day planned for Feb 4-5
14:06:10 <pixelb> Icehouse Milestone 2 on Fedora 20
14:06:16 <mburned> #info should have the following available for Test Day:
14:06:36 <mburned> #info Icehouse Milestone 2 for el6, Fedora 20, and el7 (new)
14:06:37 <pixelb> Hopefully some new test cases
14:07:13 <pixelb> ---
14:07:26 * kashyap is lurking briefly. He's just back from a long flight & still adjusting to a 4 1/2 hours timezone skew.
14:08:23 <mburned> DrBacchus: anything else we need to cover for the test day?
14:08:40 <DrBacchus> I don't think so. Sorry. Distracted by my daughter for a moment.
14:08:57 <DrBacchus> I think that's it for that topic.
14:09:10 <DrBacchus> Next topic is hangouts, which I have still kind of dropped the ball on.
14:09:11 <mburned> #topic Next Community Hangout
14:09:21 <kashyap> I have a quick question
14:09:21 <mburned> #info plan for after test day
14:09:40 <DrBacchus> So it's there mostly as a reminder to me to go looking for some content. Unless someone else wants to volunteer now. :)
14:09:48 <DrBacchus> But, yes, probably after test day, and after FOSDEM would be good.
14:09:50 <kashyap> pixelb - Will *EL7 be targeted for this test-day? /me hasn't checked in the build system for packages
14:09:51 <mburned> #action DrBacchus to ask for volunteers on mailing list and seek topics
14:10:10 <pixelb> kashyap, that's the plan (don't go looking for anything yet :))
14:10:14 <kashyap> pixelb, Disregard me, it's in the scroll, you've already answered
14:10:57 <DrBacchus> If folks have suggestions for hangout topics, there should be a thread about it on rdo-list today.
14:11:23 <DrBacchus> Next topic: February newsletter.
14:11:40 <mburned> #topic February Newsleter
14:11:44 <mburned> #topic February Newsletter
14:11:54 <DrBacchus> I hope to have a draft this week. Some folks suggested some topics. I think we've got some good content there.
14:12:26 <DrBacchus> Looks like the link in the etherpad is broken.
14:12:35 <mburned> DrBacchus: did the etherpad for the newsletter move to a public location?
14:12:49 <mburned> or is it still an internal link
14:12:50 <DrBacchus> No. I did't do that. I'll do that now.
14:13:08 <mburned> #info draft should be ready this week
14:13:12 <mburned> #info current topics:
14:13:16 <mburned> #info IRC meetings
14:13:20 <mburned> #info FOSDEM
14:13:23 <DrBacchus> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo_feb_2014_newsletter
14:13:25 <mburned> #info Infrastructure.Next
14:13:30 <mburned> #info SCALE
14:13:40 <mburned> #info CentOS and Cloud SIG effort
14:13:43 <morazi> kashyap, I think there is an important piece of information w/r/t EL7 -- which is to say that the CI around EL7 is still underway, so the resulting install steps might be more error-prone/we may very well be uncovering rather fundamental issues that are blockers early in the process.
14:13:52 <mburned> $info Bug triage meeting
14:13:55 <mburned> #info Bug triage meeting
14:14:03 <mburned> #info OpenStack Foundation elections
14:14:25 <DrBacchus> So, if anybody has anything else they'd like to see covered in a newsletter, or would like to write something, just let me know.
14:14:26 <morazi> mburned, DrBacchus ^^ so I would say -- any thoughts on best ways to mitigate that so the broader community experience around test day for EL7 is a reasonable one or at least folks come in with reasonable expectations?
14:14:39 <DrBacchus> For reference, we have about 250 people on rdo-list, and about 2000 on rdo-newsletter
14:15:03 <kashyap> morazi, I see, noted. /me is currently up-to neck already keeping track of Fedora (since that's where all the newest changes land).
14:15:59 <mburned> morazi: is the CI work going to be done ahead of the test day? or still going to be ongoing?
14:16:01 <DrBacchus> morazi: we'll have more lead time this time around, so hopefully QE will have some better idea of what to expect.
14:17:25 <DrBacchus> Lost the etherpad browser tab for a moment.
14:17:30 <morazi> mburned, I'm hoping something in CI will exist and can at least give a very high level pass at the packages, but I think it is a little early to say what the level of completion will be.
14:17:57 <DrBacchus> Anything else on that?
14:18:19 <morazi> DrBacchus, mburned kashyap I was bringing it up in that regardless we might want a belt & suspenders type approach around EL7 where we at least have a few of us actively trying to packages manually prior to test day to augment any automation we have in place
14:18:19 <kashyap> Do you have time to pursue that test results app for this time around? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management
14:18:40 <DrBacchus> morazi: +1
14:18:42 <mburned> morazi: was just about to suggest that we have a few people try it out in a pre-testday
14:19:03 <DrBacchus> kashyap: Yes, I believe I will have time to that this week, as soon as I'm done with FOSDEM stuff.
14:19:11 <morazi> I have another potential topic, but not sure if it is of general interest.
14:19:19 <DrBacchus> kashyap: Should just be a matter of putting stuff in the Fedora wiki rather than (or as well as) ours.
14:19:31 <kashyap> DrBacchus, Cool. Also, don't hesitate to reach out to the friendly folks in #fedora-admin
14:19:34 <morazi> (and/or it may overlap with the discussion re: Triage)
14:19:40 <DrBacchus> Yes, will do. They were helpful.
14:20:08 <morazi> Would it be worthwhile to try to get default owners in bz for the RDO components?
14:20:47 <mburned> morazi: on my list for today
14:21:06 * morazi cheers!
14:21:15 * mburned will get wiki page posted and email sent out by EOD
14:21:35 <mburned> ok, next topic
14:21:37 <mburned> #topic FOSDEM
14:21:47 <DrBacchus> FOSDEM is next weekend.
14:21:52 <mburned> #info occurring on Feb 1-2
14:22:00 <DrBacchus> Then after FOSDEM there's the Infrastructure.next event in Ghent.
14:22:03 <morazi> mburned, apols if that was on an etherpad or the agena already.  I joined directly from a couple of back-to-back meetings and did not have as much prep time as I would have liked
14:22:22 <DrBacchus> I'm giving a presentation on using Ceilometer, so as a result I've learned a heck of a lot about ceilometer in the last two weeks!
14:23:08 <DrBacchus> There's a lot of good content in the IaaS track.
14:23:14 <mburned> morazi: it's not, just something i had on my radar from talking to you last week...
14:23:33 <mburned> #info there is also Infrastructure.Next event after FOSDEM in Ghent
14:23:44 <DrBacchus> https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/track/virtualisation_and_iaas/
14:23:51 <mburned> #info DrBacchus is giving a resentation on ceilometer
14:24:09 <mburned> #info also good content on the IaaS track ( https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/track/virtualisation_and_iaas/ )
14:25:04 <DrBacchus> So I'll actually be in Ghent during the test day. Hopefully I'll have everything done that I need to do before then.
14:25:12 <mburned> DrBacchus: do you have engineer interviews setup?
14:25:23 <mburned> or still trying to organize them
14:25:33 <DrBacchus> I don't have any specifically scheduled, but several people have said that they'd be willing.
14:25:42 <mburned> DrBacchus: you can off load test day stuff to me if you need to
14:25:52 <DrBacchus> I've got a portable recorder thing, so I'll be able to just corner people and chat for 10 minutes.
14:26:06 <DrBacchus> And a number of people have said that they're willing.
14:26:15 <DrBacchus> So we shoul dhave some good content by the end of that.
14:26:25 <mburned> #info DrBacchus will be conducting engineer interviews during FOSDEM
14:26:35 <mburned> #info contact him if interested
14:26:59 <DrBacchus> that's always fun.
14:27:24 <mburned> anything else for FOSDEM/Infrastructure.Next?
14:27:27 <DrBacchus> But other than trying to get ceilometer to do stuff, I don't have much more to say about that.
14:27:41 <DrBacchus> Next topic
14:27:48 <DrBacchus> CentOS Cloud SIG.
14:27:52 <beddari> mmagr: any suggestions as to how I could go about fixing support for nested virt, kvm||qemu?
14:27:54 <mburned> #topic CentOS Cloud SIG
14:28:13 <DrBacchus> After an initial burst of activity, the cloud sig threads have died down a little bit.
14:28:23 <mburned> #info organizational/kickoff meeting scheduled for Thursday Jan 23
14:28:38 <larsks> mburned: @ what time?
14:28:39 <mburned> DrBacchus: i think everyone is waiting for the hangout on Thursday
14:28:45 <DrBacchus> But, yes, there's the meeting on Thursday, and I think folks are mostly waiting for that.
14:29:03 <DrBacchus> Looking at calendar for time.
14:29:08 <mburned> larsks: 11 EDT
14:29:12 <mburned> EST
14:30:20 <mburned> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140123T16&am=30
14:30:25 <kashyap> beddari, What do you mean "fixing support"? (Just to note: there's a meeting in progress here). Your question can be discussed after that, or please bring it up on rdo-list, so people can answer async.
14:30:30 <DrBacchus> So if there's anything you feel strongly should be mentioned in that meeting/hangout, please make sure we have discussed it by then, so that we can adequately represent what RDO wants to see happen there.
14:31:16 <mburned> DrBacchus: we should probably sync up on what to talk about before that meeting
14:31:19 <larsks> Are there things people feel strongly about that should be mentioned there?
14:31:25 <DrBacchus> If you haven't caught up on the conversation so far, it's on centos-devel starting about two weeks ago.
14:31:25 <larsks> ...yeah, what mburned said.
14:31:56 <DrBacchus> mburned: Did you have in mind doing that with a small group, or all of rdo-list, or what?
14:32:43 <mburned> DrBacchus: we can solicit topics from the large group, but i think they want each group to do a mini presentation...
14:32:59 <mburned> so i'll request feedback from rdo-list today
14:33:09 <DrBacchus> Sounds good
14:33:23 <mburned> and maybe we can meet briefly on thursday to make sure we have everything in order
14:33:45 <DrBacchus> #action mburned to talk with rdo-list about the CentOS Cloud SIG hangout, to be sure we are representing the view of the community in that meeting.
14:33:47 <mburned> #action mburns to send request for RDO goals of Cloud SIG today
14:33:50 <DrBacchus> :)
14:33:55 <mburned> #undo
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14:34:01 <mburned> you said it better...
14:34:17 <DrBacchus> ok, next item?
14:34:24 <mburned> #topic Bug Triage
14:34:47 <DrBacchus> We have the bug triage in the agenda, but I'm not sure what we need to say, other than that we have a regularly schedule IRC bug triage tomorrow, right?
14:34:47 <mburned> #info bug triage meeting is happening on a once or twice monthly basis
14:35:06 <DrBacchus> Oh, right, it's not every week.
14:35:16 <kashyap> Right.
14:35:17 <mburned> #info there is some work being done by kashyap and mburned to improve the process
14:35:31 <DrBacchus> On that note, it was suggested that we create an RDO google calendar, and that's on my list to do today.
14:35:42 <DrBacchus> To list this meeting, and that meeting, and other community events.
14:35:53 <mburned> #info last week's meeting was successful in triaging about half of the open bugs
14:36:07 <DrBacchus> thanks to kashyap for heading that up.
14:36:29 <kashyap> Also to larsks (for major contrib) & others who participated.
14:36:35 <mburned> #info DrBacchus will be creating a google calendar to list this meeting, the bug triage meeting and any other community events
14:37:03 <mburned> DrBacchus: probably should add things like FOSDEM as well...
14:37:12 <DrBacchus> Last item on the list, I didn't get done in time because I was fighting with the ceilometer API all day yesterday. :/
14:37:28 <mburned> #topic RDO forum questions
14:37:42 <mburned> #info not prepared for today, so DrBacchus will handle this off-meeting
14:37:49 <mburned> #info other topics
14:38:02 <mburned> if anyone has other stuff to mention, now is the time
14:38:03 <DrBacchus> However, we have 28 unanswered questions on ask.openstack, so we're falling kind of far behind there.
14:38:04 <mmagr> beddari, well some vmx|svm checking logic (new fact probably) will have to be implemented IMHO
14:38:19 <mburned> #topic other topics
14:38:30 * larsks is planning on tackling some ask.o.o later today.
14:38:43 <mburned> #info a centos 6.5 guest-image has been posted to the RDO yum repo
14:39:07 <DrBacchus> I linked that to the images page.
14:39:10 <mburned> #link http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/guest-images/
14:39:29 <mburned> #info thanks to jboggs for putting that together
14:39:43 <mburned> larsks: thanks for working on the forum questions
14:40:33 <DrBacchus> Any other topics? Anyone?
14:40:41 <mburned> #info plan to have some people do pre-test-day testing with EL7 packages
14:40:47 <mburned> (just to capture that from earlier)
14:41:26 <mburned> last call for topics
14:41:49 <DrBacchus> Ok, all done, then.
14:41:49 <mburned> ok, i think we're done
14:42:01 <DrBacchus> Thank you all for your participation and patience.
14:42:01 <mburned> #endmeeting