15:00:58 #startmeeting RDO packaging meeting (2015-06-10) 15:00:58 Meeting started Wed Jun 10 15:00:58 2015 UTC. The chair is number80. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:00 here 15:01:25 #chairs jpena derekh jruzicka gchamoul mburns xaeth 15:01:33 #topic roll call 15:01:35 o/ 15:01:37 o/ 15:01:40 o/ 15:01:55 o/ 15:01:57 explains why i keep missing the meetings. 10amcst now :) 15:02:08 today, apevec and rbowen are excused :) 15:02:25 xaeth: no problem, update the agenda and feel free to reach one of us 15:02:55 #chairs chandankumar 15:03:02 hi! 15:03:11 number80, Hello 15:03:20 you're in time for the meeting 15:03:28 agenda 15:03:36 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Packaging 15:03:39 o/ 15:03:46 RDO trello 15:03:51 #link https://trello.com/b/HhXlqdiu/rdo 15:03:56 #chairs mburned 15:04:18 great let's start 15:04:41 o/ 15:04:51 #chairs trown 15:05:05 #topic oslo releases without namespace 15:05:16 #halp 15:05:21 #undo 15:05:21 Removing item from minutes: HELP by number80 at 15:05:16 : 15:05:41 ok zodbot is still alive 15:06:07 oslo is now dropping the namespace thing, jpena and gchamoul already started fixing the packages on rpm-master 15:06:55 we should start paying attention and fix FTBFS on delorean 15:07:00 anything else ? 15:08:18 FTBFS? 15:08:36 Fail To Build From Sources 15:08:52 * derekh googled it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTBFS 15:08:52 ah, thanks 15:09:15 common acronym but it's good to remind it ;) 15:09:28 well, let's move to the next topic 15:10:00 #topic RDO manager & Operational Toolchain for RDO 15:10:07 mburned ? 15:10:50 number80: any particular question? 15:11:10 status is basically that rdo-manager is going to be delorean only for the short term 15:11:13 mburned: apevec wrote that we needed your input on that topic 15:11:32 we probably want to setup separate tags in CBS for it 15:11:48 but i'm probably at least a month away from doing any work there 15:11:53 #info RDO manager is going to be delorean only for the short term 15:12:09 #info RDO manager will have separate tags in CBS 15:12:37 As for Ops tools, i think we're still really early in that process 15:12:48 there is a thread on rdo-list talking about it 15:12:50 fine with me, for tags, ping alphacc. You'd need approval from CentOS Cloud SIG (either rbowen and I but consider it granted) 15:13:21 IMHO, ops tools could very easily be a separate sig completely 15:13:28 the only thing bothering me is that it will be difficult to ggillies to join the meeting 15:13:46 right, i can cover a bit for him and lon can as well 15:13:54 mburned: thanks :) 15:13:54 but probably mostly email in reality 15:14:22 if we can't get a separate sig for ops, then common is the most logical place 15:14:32 most of the packages are in fedora already 15:14:54 oh the tag, completely different from SIG 15:15:02 we can have as many tags as needed 15:15:32 if we need to package different ops toolchains, then it makes sense to have separate tags 15:15:39 *versions 15:15:54 number80: i'd suggest a complete sig for ops in general 15:16:05 it's useful outside just RDO/OpenStack 15:16:22 mburned: then, we should discuss this with KB 15:16:36 but if we don't have/want that, then we could do it by shipping in the common location 15:16:49 i don't think we'd have/support different versions of the tool chain 15:16:54 #action hguemar start discussion for a CentOS ops tool SIG 15:17:23 number80: i'll reply to the email on rdo-list and we can add kb to that 15:17:28 +1 15:17:33 #undo 15:17:33 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by number80 at 15:16:54 : hguemar start discussion for a CentOS ops tool SIG 15:17:49 #action mburned add KB to the ops tool discussion on RDO list 15:18:08 I think we covered that point? 15:18:14 number80: i think so 15:18:19 great 15:18:31 #topic pulling RDO packaging upstream 15:18:37 now derekh's turn :) 15:18:47 Yup, I stuck that there 15:18:54 yup 15:18:55 I just wanted to point that thread out to people 15:18:55 which is a discussion about packaging upstream and includes a discussion about getting the RDO master packaging into the openstack gerrit (out of gerrithub) 15:18:55 This could (hopefully) include collaborating with others (Suse people for example) 15:18:55 Anyways I don't have anything specific to say on the topic expect to make people aware of it 15:18:55 and chime in on the list if you have any opinions etc... 15:19:20 #info discussion on pulling RDO packaging upstream 15:19:44 I think its a great opportunity to start collaborating on our packaging upstream 15:19:50 #action all give your feedback and participate to that discussion 15:20:00 +2 15:20:05 and eventually maybe CI it along with the upstream projects etc... 15:20:20 moreover, that's proof that we have been working in the right direction ;) 15:20:57 yup it is, we could make that switch now and our process wouldn't change much 15:21:12 but we'll have some problems to work on in order to collaborate with others 15:21:42 thats all from me 15:21:47 thanks :) 15:21:57 #topic Big Tent! 15:22:24 there's a thread about raising awareness about big tent projects in RDO 15:22:57 https://www.rdoproject.org/ProjectsInRDO 15:23:10 I encourage everyone to complete that page started by ggillies 15:23:23 #action all complete the ProjectsInRDO page 15:23:37 xaeth: I hope to see your name for Barbican ;) 15:24:12 i need to get back on that. the 'how do i run it' seems to be the final hurdle 15:24:57 for the record, I had a chat with elmiko about it and it's getting fixed upstream 15:24:58 number80: where is the "big tent" list upstream? 15:25:12 personnally, I'm fine with the paste script at first time 15:25:20 number80: I am thinking ironic-discoverd soon to be renamed to inspector will go there too 15:25:34 it is getting moved to openstack namespace 15:25:39 i'm not sure who elmiko is. I was talking to redrobot and he said he might be able to get that on this or next sprint 15:25:47 trown: RDO list sorry, I was speaking about the following thread "Packaging the big tent (or at least part of it)" 15:26:09 xaeth: Mike Mcccune 15:26:26 kewl 15:27:01 xaeth: needinfo or ping me when you're ready 15:27:36 anything else on that topic ? 15:28:01 we have various offer of helps, I hope we will get many more projects packaged for L release 15:28:36 is someone working on magnum packaging? if not i am happy to take it 15:28:49 thanks number80 15:29:02 trown, yeah, I believe we should bring inspector and ipa to (non-manager) RDO as well 15:29:10 chandankumar: check with sdake 15:29:35 dtantsur: cool 15:29:43 number80, sure :) 15:29:47 great 15:29:58 #topic openfloor 15:30:13 do you have any other topics you want to bring on? 15:30:26 or I'll end the meeting in few minutes :) 15:31:16 #info jruzicka is working on rdopkg reqquery (it's awesome now) 15:31:46 #info jruzicka is sketching our new process workflow (feedback welcome) 15:33:09 dddd 15:33:58 gchamoul: anything ? 15:35:26 nope sorry ... 15:35:49 ok then 15:35:53 #endmeeting