15:02:17 #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2017-04-12 15:02:17 Meeting started Wed Apr 12 15:02:17 2017 UTC. The chair is chandankumar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:02:17 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:02:17 The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting_-_2017-04-12' 15:02:17 Meeting started Wed Apr 12 15:02:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chandankumar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:02:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:02:21 The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2017_04_12' 15:02:26 #topic rollcall 15:02:28 \o/ 15:03:10 apevec: rbowen number80 trown meeting time 15:03:35 o/ 15:03:39 o/ 15:03:50 #chair trown number80 15:03:50 Current chairs: chandankumar number80 trown 15:03:51 Current chairs: chandankumar number80 trown 15:03:53 chandankumar: you running it? sorry I was late 15:03:53 o/ 15:04:00 #chair rbowen 15:04:00 Current chairs: chandankumar number80 rbowen trown 15:04:00 Current chairs: chandankumar number80 rbowen trown 15:04:04 trown: no problem 15:04:27 rbowen: I think it is PTO overlap the last couple weeks 15:04:52 yes, holiday is coming on Friday that is also the reason. 15:05:22 let me start with the first topic 15:05:45 #topic pike Milestone 1 test days 15:05:50 rbowen: please go ahead 15:06:03 Upstream Milestone 1 is tomorrow, according to releases.openstack.org 15:06:17 We plan to do a test day next Thursday, Friday, if we've had a promotion by then. 15:06:30 Are there any concerns about hitting that date that anyone is aware of? 15:06:34 dmsimard: meeting time 15:06:41 o/ 15:06:47 jruzicka: \o/ 15:06:50 #chair leanderthal 15:06:50 Current chairs: chandankumar leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:06:50 Current chairs: chandankumar leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:06:59 d'awww, thx chandankumar 15:07:51 ok, well, if there's no delays, we should have a test day next week. I've put up the test matrix 15:07:57 only blocker I know of is https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1682001 15:07:58 Launchpad bug 1682001 in tripleo "[promotion] nova hypervisors/detail fails when host is not mapped to any cell" [Critical,Triaged] 15:08:03 We also want to test upstream install docs. 15:08:05 i think tripleo pike-1 was released http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115300.html 15:08:31 \o 15:08:31 As usual, any ongoing help to improve our test matrix would be appreciated. 15:08:40 https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/tests/ 15:09:02 In particular, more detailed testing instructions will greatly lower the bar to new participants. 15:09:42 Also, it looks like a lot of the links in that doc are out of date. So I'll try to get that fixes ASAP 15:10:05 That's all I have, until we know whether we'll get a promotion. 15:10:50 number80: dmsimard apevec may know about pike promotion 15:12:11 number80, apevec : can someone check why we don't have this security issue fixed in newton http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q1/205 15:12:24 I don't feel like we're too far off a pike promotion look at the past few runs 15:12:35 #chair dmsimard 15:12:35 Current chairs: chandankumar dmsimard leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:12:36 Current chairs: chandankumar dmsimard leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:12:50 I'll try to follow up and ping where appropriate 15:13:09 dmsimard: Thanks :-) 15:13:16 moving to next topic 15:13:23 #topic python-tempestconf 15:13:36 o/ 15:13:49 python-tempestconf-1.1.0 is out for ocata 15:13:59 with 3 new shiny features: 15:14:13 * Add os-client-config support 15:14:16 * Enable keystone feature flags 15:14:18 * Add ability to remove any option from tempest.conf 15:14:20 * Synced with python-tempest-15.0.0 15:14:22 https://github.com/redhat-openstack/python-tempestconf/tree/1.1.0 15:14:34 #chair jruzicka 15:14:34 Current chairs: chandankumar dmsimard jruzicka leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:14:35 Current chairs: chandankumar dmsimard jruzicka leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:15:01 thanks to tosky mkopec and dmellado for getting these features :-) 15:15:13 that's it from my side 15:15:24 Sorry, network dropped. 15:15:33 #chair DrBacchus 15:15:33 Current chairs: DrBacchus chandankumar dmsimard jruzicka leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:15:33 Current chairs: DrBacchus chandankumar dmsimard jruzicka leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:15:38 no worries DrBacchus / rbowen 15:15:41 I have quick addition to agenda since we have so liitle topics :) 15:15:51 jruzicka: yup go ahead 15:16:42 jruzicka: making rdoinfo as a topic 15:16:54 #topic rdoinfo parser from rdoinfo/rdopkg into a separate module 15:17:21 jruzicka: please go ahead 15:17:23 #info rdoinfo data format is stable enough, it's time to release rdoinfo parser as a proper module 15:18:05 #action jruzicka will merge rdoinfo parser and rdopkg.actionmods.rdoinfo into a separate module 15:18:23 my main question is about naming 15:19:09 how shall we call the current rdoinfo repo with the data and the python module repo to not cause confusion 15:19:33 jruzicka: what about name proposal on a etherpad followed by volting in a next meeting 15:19:35 distroinfa ? 15:19:42 err, distroinfo 15:19:52 it would be generic parser 15:20:03 cool idea apevec :) 15:20:10 but yes let's start bikeshedding etherpad! 15:20:16 #chair apevec 15:20:16 Current chairs: DrBacchus apevec chandankumar dmsimard jruzicka leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:20:17 Current chairs: DrBacchus apevec chandankumar dmsimard jruzicka leanderthal number80 rbowen trown 15:21:07 apevec, OK. 15:21:55 I'm just letting you know this is going to happen sooner or later. It's not a pressing matter but it would be nice. 15:22:02 That's it from me. 15:22:43 ack, moving ahead, i wanted to talk about mitaka EOl 15:23:02 but after one more topic 15:23:12 #topic Contributor survey 15:23:19 rbowen: please go ahead 15:23:27 just a reminder that we are conducting a contributor survey, at https://goo.gl/forms/SYVo9gbacsMfe8Ov2 15:23:41 The response has been very disappointing - less than 20 so far. 15:23:52 But the feedback, even in just that, looks very valuable. 15:24:04 So, if people could participate, that would be great. 15:24:06 i'll post it on groningenrain.nl and cross link on twitter 15:25:21 leanderthal: cool! 15:25:55 that's all I wanted to say there. 15:26:09 circulating the survey link to centos fedora or openstack list might help us getting more response 15:26:18 exactly ^ 15:26:22 That's a very good idea, I'll do that too. 15:26:38 Get the people that have been occasional contributors but aren't very connected right now. 15:26:45 Thanks. 15:26:54 rbowen: Thanks :-) 15:27:02 moving to my own topic 15:27:07 #topic Mitaka EOL 15:27:27 upstream has started tagging Mitaka as EOL http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115308.html 15:27:28 it is happening upstream 15:27:31 [openstack-dev] [all][stable][ptls] Tagging mitaka as EOL 15:27:42 Oh, that was this week, wasn't it. I forgot. 15:27:44 what are the plans for RDO? 15:28:06 We have historically followed closely behind upstream in EOL'ing releases. 15:28:07 we'll remove mitaka trunk as soon as eol tags are merged 15:28:27 We need to announce this various places. Who would like to write that announcement? 15:28:28 and I've action to define EOL procedure for repos on mirror.c.o 15:28:35 we're few release behind 15:28:43 from very long time, we have not closed the bulk EOL bug, time for a grand bug triage day in between pike m1 and m2. 15:28:48 any thoughts? 15:29:00 it was raised on #centos-devel that we still have EOL releases around 15:29:16 chandankumar, I don't think it was well receieved last time 15:29:34 You mean bulk closing tickets against EOL releases? 15:29:38 so I don't think we should do mass-closing 15:29:56 I've been gradually closing ask.openstack.org questions against long-EOL'ed releases, but I've typically stayed one behind. 15:30:00 rbowen, yeah, but release info in BZ might not be correct 15:30:15 apevec: rbowen mass closing would not be good, but traiging should be good and closing them manually 15:30:15 Merged openstack/tempestconf-distgit: Added python-os-client-config as BR and Requires https://review.rdoproject.org/r/6241 15:30:34 chandankumar, ack for scheduling triage day 15:30:46 chandankumar, i have a topic if there's time.... 15:30:56 leanderthal: we have lots of time 15:31:00 rbowen, re. announcement - I don't think upstream did one 15:31:16 Really? Seems like a good thing to mention to people. 15:31:28 But, no, I didn't see an announcement. Perhaps because it's not complete yet? 15:31:29 feel free to jump after that, 15:31:31 it is just put on the schedule in advance 15:31:35 so folks can plan 15:31:55 EOL dates are published at http://releases.openstack.org/ 15:32:17 we know them up to Ocata 15:32:20 2017-04-10 is the EOL date for the mitaka 15:32:28 Yeah, but seems like an announcement is a good idea, too, as not everyone is looking there. But, hey, not my circus. :-) 15:33:17 ok, I'll draft something 15:33:22 for cloud sig 15:33:26 +1 15:34:08 #action apevec to draft Mitaka EOL annoucement for Cloud SIG repos 15:34:21 next topic? 15:34:44 #topic TryStack FreeIPA 15:34:55 leanderthal: please go ahead 15:35:37 Trystack would like to shift to using FreeIPA / not facebook as their user technology and would love any help 15:36:25 if you're keen and available, please visit #trystack and reach out to wfoster 15:36:43 rbowen, what is kambiz' irc nick? 15:36:54 rbowen: kosh ? 15:36:57 leanderthal: ^ 15:37:01 kambiz I believe 15:37:07 There's a kambiz on #trystack 15:37:08 ah, that's easy. 15:37:09 kambiz on freenode, kosh internally 15:37:11 HA! 15:37:12 nice 15:37:15 oh hello wfoster 15:37:20 i'm getting you help ;-) 15:37:29 \o/ 15:37:35 And that's what's blocking moving Trystack to a more recent release. 15:37:37 do you want to say anything to add to that request? 15:37:47 So this would be a very, very nice thing to have behind us. 15:37:55 +1 15:38:02 wfoster: I guess our keystone and IPA hero ayoung is no longer a good fit for this considering his new role ? 15:38:22 we also synced with openstack infra team upstream (fungi, pbelanger) and they have hooked us up wiith some ipsilon developers to see about tying into openstackid and their auth infrastructure. 15:39:11 smarcet and jpmaxman in #openstack-infra are the main openstackid maintainers 15:39:28 (this was last tuesdays upstream infra meeting) 15:40:19 time permitting on our side, i'll be on PTO until 2017-04-27 and kambiz is generally always busy with perf/scale, QUADS development, etc. 15:41:42 leanderthal: dmsimard nkinder is our freeIPA contact (hoping to maybe move the v4 FreeIPA self-service stuff past POC state?) we can use trystack as a working environment for this and everyone would benefit from it 15:42:11 kambiz: ^^ 15:42:41 wfoster, would it help to have those interested in helping reach out to you / kambiz so that you two can make the email introductions? 15:42:54 with nkinder, i mean 15:44:22 leanderthal: sure, though I think he's been on the various threads about this in the past. One mutually beneficial point here is that it'll help FreeIPA development in general to have a real world usage evironment to develop/improve things for the self-service parts of FreeIPA. Maybe this is something PM can get on board with? 15:44:58 then if they think it's a good cause they can push to allocate official resources 15:45:06 schweet. 15:45:15 our parallel deployment is available for anyone to use for this, it's public and live. 15:45:33 once it works nicely we can merge the two 15:46:38 do you want to provide the link here so that the RDO community can provide you with testing / patches / feedback / documentation / publicity / anything else in the meantime? 15:47:05 leanderthal, wfoster - better to post it on rdo-list 15:47:15 +1 15:47:29 wfoster, would you send out an email or give me the link and i'll take care of it? 15:51:32 leanderthal: i think wfoster is not around, moving to next topic 15:51:38 no worries 15:51:41 i'll follow up 15:52:07 leanderthal: wfoster thanks for bringing up the discussion related to trystack and FreeIPA :-) 15:52:14 #action leanderthal email rdo-list re: trystack freeipa 15:52:21 For going into it with no agenda, this was the longest meeting we've had in a long time. :-) 15:52:21 leanderthal: :-) 15:52:34 rbowen: yes 15:52:35 :-) 15:52:49 before moving to open floor 15:52:58 #topic chair for next meeting 15:53:10 Anyone up for volunteering for next meeting 15:53:13 ? 15:53:43 I can do it in two weeks, but not on 19 april 15:54:05 leanderthal: counted for next to next week 15:54:23 so wasn't trown supposed to chair today? :) 15:54:27 apevec: yes 15:54:57 * chandankumar looks at trown . 15:55:08 k, I can do it next week :P 15:55:14 trown: thanks :-) 15:55:14 :-D 15:55:25 I did it last week as well :P 15:55:26 #action trown to chair for next meeting. 15:55:41 #topic Open Floor 15:55:59 feel free to any topic which is missing from agenda in Open floor. 15:56:08 *bring any 15:56:33 Just a general query how can we bring more people to RDO meeting? 15:57:03 have agenda in advance? :) 15:57:17 to lure in interested folks 15:57:30 currently meeting reminder sent 2 days before. 15:57:46 Perhaps rather than just posting a transcript to rdo-list, taking individual decision points to new threads will remind people that they're missing out on where these decisions are getitng made. 15:57:48 but people still miss out to add agenda 15:57:50 with the agenda etherpad linked... 15:58:40 for making new thread might be a good idea 15:59:11 another thing is revisiting action items from previous meeting might attract people ? 15:59:19 It's a little extra work, but would bring attention to specific decisions that have been made, or discussions that they're missing. 16:00:12 rbowen: what about starting from upcoming meeting? let's see how it goes? 16:00:20 Sure. 16:00:36 Merged rdoinfo: Bump python-tempestconf to 1.1.0 for ocata https://review.rdoproject.org/r/6242 16:00:38 Although we have at least one item from this meeting that is going back to the list - Trystack and FreeIPA 16:00:51 Oh, and jruzicka's task. 16:00:52 i will send a mail thread for next week meeting. 16:00:58 So we'll have some of that already for this time around, too. 16:01:28 rbowen: times up, ending meeting now 16:01:35 #endmeeting