15:01:03 <amoralej> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2018-07-04 15:01:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jul 4 15:01:03 2018 UTC. 15:01:03 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:01:03 <zodbot> The chair is amoralej. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:03 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:03 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting_-_2018-07-04' 15:01:04 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 4 15:01:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amoralej. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:05 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:07 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2018_07_04' 15:01:17 <amoralej> #topic roll call 15:01:23 <leanderthal> o/ 15:01:30 <leanderthal> PagliaccisCloud, are you here as well? 15:01:33 <number80> o/ 15:02:24 <amoralej> #chair leanderthal number80 15:02:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej leanderthal number80 15:02:24 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej leanderthal number80 15:02:41 <ykarel> o/ 15:03:19 <amoralej> #chair ykarel 15:03:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej leanderthal number80 ykarel 15:03:20 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej leanderthal number80 ykarel 15:03:33 <jpena> o/ 15:04:05 <amoralej> #chair jpena 15:04:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej jpena leanderthal number80 ykarel 15:04:07 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej jpena leanderthal number80 ykarel 15:04:49 <amoralej> let's start with first topic 15:05:08 <amoralej> #topic proposal to move RDO distgit repos to openstack/rdo-* 15:05:20 <amoralej> #info https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-July/008806.html 15:05:29 <amoralej> pabelanger, ^ i think this comes from you 15:06:23 <amoralej> we can change order if pabelanger is not around 15:06:41 <leanderthal> i'm fine with going now 15:06:45 <amoralej> #undo 15:06:45 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by amoralej at 15:05:20 : https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-July/008806.html 15:06:46 <openstack> Removing item from minutes: #info https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-July/008806.html 15:06:50 <amoralej> #undo 15:06:50 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x7f56c059ff90> 15:06:52 <openstack> Removing item from minutes: #topic proposal to move RDO distgit repos to openstack/rdo-* 15:07:02 <amoralej> #topic Happy Birthday, OpenStack! 17 July livestream with PagliaccisCloud 15:07:11 <amoralej> #info https://www.rdoproject.org/newsletter/2018/july/#events 15:07:20 <amoralej> #info mini virtual birthday party planning seession TOMORROW 05 July at 1400 UTC https://bluejeans.com/6709832932/ 15:07:26 <leanderthal> this month is openstack's 8th birthday and there are events all over the world. 15:07:27 <amoralej> all yours leanderthal 15:07:54 <leanderthal> i'm going to throw a mini birthday planning session to discuss things we could do remotely TOMORROW at 1400 UTC on my bluejeans channel 15:08:12 <pabelanger> amoralej: yes 15:08:16 <leanderthal> and then PagliaccisCloud is involved with a school that uses packstack and she'd love it if we joined their celebration on the 17th 15:08:21 <leanderthal> it's a streaming thing. 15:09:04 <leanderthal> really, every month is openstack month in our world, so this is actually just an excuse to eat cake. 15:09:15 <misc> cake as a service 15:09:16 <amoralej> :) 15:09:25 <amoralej> sounds cool leanderthal 15:09:26 <leanderthal> and to take a pause to realize how freaking long / short of a time it's been. EIGHT 15:09:48 <leanderthal> if you're keen, email / message me or just join the bjn session tomorrow 15:10:31 <leanderthal> any questions? 15:10:37 <leanderthal> CaaS sounds AWESOME misc 15:10:52 <leanderthal> i hope so, amoralej - i just want icing^Wcake 15:11:48 <jpena> as long as there's chocolate, you can count on me 15:11:58 <ykarel> hmm it conflicts with Container as a Service :) 15:12:03 <leanderthal> damnit 15:12:10 <leanderthal> chocolate is always a plus plus jpena 15:12:33 <sfbender> Jakub Ružička created distroinfo master: WIP: core: packages and releases inheritance https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/12882 15:12:38 <leanderthal> Cake as a Service is infinitely cooler.... we'll have to find a compromise. 15:12:52 <amoralej> we'll ask containers guys to change it, cakes are more important that containers 15:12:59 <ykarel> :) 15:12:59 <leanderthal> EXACTLY 15:13:19 <amoralej> ask kids, they are always right 15:13:24 <leanderthal> true story. 15:13:41 <amoralej> ok, let's move to next topic 15:13:42 <leanderthal> but that's about it for that; i'm going to write up a blog post tomorrow after the 1400 meeting with more details 15:14:13 <amoralej> ok 15:14:29 <amoralej> #topic zuulv3 migration update 15:14:34 <amoralej> pabelanger, stage is yours 15:15:00 <pabelanger> yes 15:15:13 <pabelanger> so we are really close to being done with the migration to zuulv3 15:15:37 <pabelanger> I'd like to land https://review.rdoproject.org/r/14612/ this morning and monitor 15:15:51 <pabelanger> but once working, we'll move the last jobs (promotion) to zuulv3 15:15:57 <pabelanger> then we can be done and have cake 15:16:28 <number80> yum 15:16:31 <pabelanger> we've had a few scale issues of the last week, but thanks to tristanC and SF team, we have more servers online 15:16:39 <leanderthal> so many reasons to celebrate! 15:17:09 <misc> "we have cake, so let's celebrate that with cake" 15:17:25 <pabelanger> that's really all I had on zuulv3, unless some questions 15:17:48 <chkumar|ruck> put the cake receipe seperate and let's openstack services make the cake 15:17:49 <ykarel> pabelanger, there needs to be some cleanup right, i see some duplication in playbooks? 15:18:07 <pabelanger> ykarel: yes, once migration finishes, people are free to start cleanup the legacy playbooks 15:18:15 <pabelanger> there is duplication because of zuul-migrate process 15:18:25 <ykarel> pabelanger, ack okk 15:18:41 <amoralej> pabelanger, i've noticed that oooq jobs in rdoinfo gate takes longer in queue in v3, i understand that's becaus we still have few resources for tripleo jobs in v3, right? 15:18:47 <amoralej> until all are migrated 15:19:11 <pabelanger> yes, we still have a slipped nodepool capacity, so we are not at 100% of nodes 15:19:16 <amoralej> ok 15:19:35 <pabelanger> that is last step after tripleo-ci is moved, re org everything in nodepool to make it more efficient 15:19:45 <amoralej> ack 15:19:55 <amoralej> any other question about migration to zuul v3? 15:20:52 <number80> I think we're good 15:20:56 <amoralej> ok 15:21:11 <amoralej> #topic proposal to move RDO distgit repos to openstack/rdo-* 15:21:20 <amoralej> #info https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-July/008806.html 15:21:23 <pabelanger> this one is me too 15:21:27 <amoralej> yeah 15:22:28 <pabelanger> so during the zuulv3 migration, I noticed that our distgit jobs could be pushed upstream into git.openstack.org. I wanted to maybe start the topic and see what the pros / cons are, I know apevec has already replied but would be interested in others 15:23:05 <pabelanger> the main reason I can see, is to get access to a multi cloud testing environment to avoid outages when we have issues with rdocloud 15:23:06 <amoralej> pabelanger, what's the expected pros? 15:23:24 <amoralej> you just replied :) 15:23:25 <pabelanger> plus I think there would be more collaboration with openstack people, since a single gerrit 15:24:21 <amoralej> pabelanger, distgit require different ACLs per distgit. Does it implies a separated repo as we have today in review.r.o? 15:24:40 <pabelanger> I think it comes down to, do we in rdo want to be the only ones responsible for this infra or can we work together upstream and share some of that load 15:25:16 <pabelanger> amoralej: yes, we should have the same functionality in upstream gerrit as gerrit in review.r.o 15:25:21 <number80> I'm personally fine with that 15:25:22 <pabelanger> per project ACLs for example 15:25:31 <number80> yes 15:25:58 <amoralej> may it conflict with rpm-packaging project somehow? 15:26:04 <number80> we don't want people for project A to mingle with project B repo 15:26:17 <number80> amoralej: that's one of the concerns raised when rpm-packaging was created 15:26:18 <amoralej> yeah, that's a requirement 15:26:24 <pabelanger> amoralej: I think it needs a discussion upstream, but I wanted to gauge here first 15:26:29 <amoralej> ok 15:26:30 <pabelanger> but I think they can both live 15:26:45 <number80> Absolutely 15:26:59 <pabelanger> I mean they do today, just on different code review systems 15:27:08 <pabelanger> we're just asking to merge them into a single 15:27:38 <amoralej> pabelanger, could we have depends-on in projects in review.r.o as rdoinfo for reviews in review.o.o? 15:27:46 <jpena> would rdoinfo move as well? There's an awful lot of automation related to it 15:27:54 <pabelanger> okay, I just wanted to start the topic but seems like people don't have a negative reaction so far. 15:27:58 <amoralej> i'm assuming rdoinfo would stay 15:28:02 <pabelanger> amoralej: jpena: yes, depends-on works 15:28:08 <pabelanger> yah, rdoinfo could stay for now 15:28:24 <pabelanger> that is a black box to me, and I don't know all the moving parts right now 15:28:26 <jpena> I'm concerned about political questions being raised about having RDO stuff in upstream infra, but I'm not against it 15:28:27 <rdogerrit> Merged config master: Move some tripleo-ci jobs to zuulv3 https://review.rdoproject.org/r/14612 15:28:38 <Duck> quack 15:28:51 <pabelanger> jpena: we've done it before with debian, so I don't think it is a large issue these days 15:29:00 <pabelanger> but agree, it is something that needs to be discussed 15:29:10 <amoralej> #chair Duck 15:29:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: Duck amoralej jpena leanderthal number80 ykarel 15:29:11 <openstack> Current chairs: Duck amoralej jpena leanderthal number80 ykarel 15:29:33 <amoralej> i'm not against, similar political concernts 15:29:41 <pabelanger> to me, as long as RDO is the 4 opens, I don't see why it couldn't move to git.o.o 15:29:45 <amoralej> and just to make sure pros as worthy for the effort 15:29:57 <pabelanger> ack 15:30:35 <number80> pabelanger: RDO is supposed to follow the same rules as upstream concerning distribution and collaboration so no issues 15:30:43 <pabelanger> ++ 15:31:33 <amoralej> it'd be good to start documenting requirements and side effects in a etherpad 15:31:58 <pabelanger> sure, I can start that. But will need some help 15:32:02 <amoralej> sure 15:32:05 <pabelanger> I'll reply to ML with etherpad link 15:32:39 <pabelanger> but now that we are using zuulv3 here in RDO, the migration upstream should be much easier. But lets discuss pros / cons first 15:32:50 <pabelanger> that's all I had 15:33:40 <amoralej> pabelanger, i understand there are no limitations in terms of branches, etc... 15:33:42 <amoralej> right? 15:34:13 <amoralej> we can use them as we need 15:34:21 <pabelanger> amoralej: yes, should be okay to create per project branches as needed 15:34:35 <pabelanger> there is tooling upstream to automate it, which is controlled via the openstack-releases team 15:34:49 <pabelanger> but only need to use that if official project 15:35:06 <pabelanger> there is docs around that depending on the project release tag 15:35:15 <pabelanger> I don't see rdo distgit using that howerver 15:35:16 <number80> We can work with them if needed to adapt tooling I guess 15:35:17 <amoralej> yeah, i guess that wouldn't be the case for these repos 15:35:17 <pabelanger> however* 15:35:22 <pabelanger> yah 15:35:29 <pabelanger> it could, but not requirement 15:36:07 <tahini> Hi, I need some help with my openstack install: 15:36:14 <tahini> I installed using packstack on a 1 machine setup (it's a test setup to try it out), using the instructions here: https://www.rdoproject.org/networking/neutron-with-existing-external-network/ 15:36:19 <amoralej> #action everyone continue discussion in https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-July/008806.html 15:36:24 <tahini> It worked fine, I could access the network, etc, reboot the machine, openstack went back up, no problem 15:36:37 <tahini> Then I took a week vacation... started the machine again, the external bridge gets a dhcp address, but... no more network access, no ping, no contact with external ip, cannot ssh to the machine or anything 15:36:49 <amoralej> #action pabelanger to create a etherpad to write about distgit movement 15:37:10 <amoralej> tahini, we are in weekly meeting. would you mind to wait for a while? 15:37:23 <amoralej> it will finish in around 20 mins 15:37:45 <tahini> amoralej, no problem, sorry for interrupting the meeting 15:37:51 <amoralej> no problem 15:38:18 <amoralej> ok, i think we can continue the discussion in the mailing list 15:38:27 <amoralej> unless someone has something to add 15:38:28 <sshnaidm|afk> pabelanger, hi, when is it planned to move periodic jobs? 15:38:45 <rdogerrit> Javier Peña proposed rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: WIP: Cleanup post-merge of rdo-container-registry https://review.rdoproject.org/r/14488 15:38:52 <pabelanger> sshnaidm|rover: this afternoon hopefully 15:39:19 <pabelanger> amoralej: +1 15:39:29 <amoralej> ok 15:39:38 <amoralej> #topic next week's chair 15:39:49 <amoralej> who wants to chair next week? 15:40:26 <ykarel> i can take it 15:40:35 <leanderthal> i can do it the week after 15:40:39 <amoralej> #action ykarel will chair next week 15:40:47 <leanderthal> the 18th 15:41:13 <amoralej> #action leanderthal will chair on july the 18th 15:41:28 <amoralej> #topic open floor 15:42:08 <amoralej> any other topic you want to raise? 15:42:44 <amoralej> we have python3 packages for glance and keystone in fedora \o/ 15:42:56 <amoralej> and thanks to ykarel we almost have a p-o-i scenario testing it 15:42:56 <jpena> \o/ 15:43:05 <leanderthal> \o/ 15:44:25 <amoralej> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579126/ if you want to see it with your own eyes :) 15:44:38 <amoralej> anything else? 15:44:47 <amoralej> otherwise i'll give you 15minutes back 15:45:32 <leanderthal> NICE! 15:45:39 <amoralej> 3 15:45:39 <amoralej> 2 15:45:41 <amoralej> 1 15:45:44 <amoralej> #endmeeting