15:01:49 #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2019-07-24 15:01:49 Meeting started Wed Jul 24 15:01:49 2019 UTC. 15:01:49 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:01:49 The chair is ykarel. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:49 The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting_-_2019-07-24' 15:01:50 Meeting started Wed Jul 24 15:01:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ykarel. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:51 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:53 The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2019_07_24' 15:02:31 Agenda is empty, please add if any to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting 15:02:47 #topic roll call 15:03:45 o/ 15:04:28 i guess a good topic for open floor is how to get more meeting participants? 15:04:42 #chair PagliaccisCloud 15:04:42 Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud ykarel 15:04:43 Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud ykarel 15:05:28 atleast few people are out in meeting for this week 15:07:17 Gabriele Cerami proposed rdo-jobs master: add buildimage rhel8 check jobs https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21535 15:08:50 ykarel, marios do you remember if it's right? https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/21578/ 15:10:05 sshnaidm, no idea, never dealt with those variables 15:10:23 Merged rdopkg master: README: update for 1.0 https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/15956 15:10:47 I think I'm right 15:10:52 as always 15:11:21 yes possibly :) 15:11:48 #topic open floor 15:12:35 Merged config master: Fix filename and path to DIB local image https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21578 15:12:55 Gabriele Cerami proposed rdo-jobs master: add buildimage rhel8 check jobs https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21535 15:15:02 Gabriele Cerami created config master: Tripleo: add triggers for 3rd party build images jobs https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21579 15:16:19 PagliaccisCloud, do you have something to point 15:17:36 it's mostly silent today as people are out 15:17:44 Um... voting is open for OpenStack Summit Shanghai (I think)? If anyone has a few minutes I'd appreciate a vote for my presentation 15:18:26 https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/vote-for-speakers/#/24260 15:19:29 #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/vote-for-speakers/#/24260 15:19:41 * ykarel will check 15:19:45 Also if anyone wants to contribute anything to the talk (should it make it through voting) or would like for me to add a specific project just email me tribecca [at] tribecc [dot] us 15:24:19 #topic volunteer for next meeting 15:25:35 i'll do it \o 15:26:39 can anyone recommend a good book for learning openstack from the ground up? it seems like no matter how many videos i watch or how many times i go over the documentation i feel like i just dont feel comfortable standing up a prod environment 15:27:21 like if/when something breaks i dont even know where to begin tshooting 15:27:41 ohsnap: OpenStack for Architects is a good one https://www.amazon.com/Openstack-Architects-Michael-Solberg-ebook/dp/B017XSFKFQ 15:27:54 cool thanks :) 15:28:01 #action PagliaccisCloud to chair next meeting 15:28:37 you might also want to reach out to spotz on IRC. She taught OpenStack for a couple of years & might have some courses to recommend that cover troubleshooting 15:29:07 PagliaccisCloud: let me read:) 15:29:16 oh hai! :D 15:30:33 ohsnap: Let me see if I've got anything really troubleshooting related. I used to pick up things at Summit so there might be something along those lines. Also there's an openstack-operators channel 15:31:52 ohsnap: Is there any area in particular you're having an issue? 15:36:02 Merged x/packstack master: Remove legacy ram/disk/core filter https://review.opendev.org/672499 15:37:24 Sorin Sbarnea (zbr) proposed config master: WIP: Make ovb-manage install_openstack_deps distro aware https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21463 15:38:49 spotz: well ive deployed it a few times over the last few releases usually using RDO / packstack / tripleo but i feel like when using puppet and ansible i miss out on really understanding how all of the different pieces fit together 15:39:06 but then ive heard people say in talks, and read peoples guides that say 'never try to deploy openstack by hand' 15:39:38 im like.. well... if i don't do it manually a few times i feel like im always missing big chunks of my understanding 15:39:58 i disagree w/ that last statement ohsnap. every admin worth their salt should go through manual deployment at least once to understand how all of the different components fit together 15:40:32 in fact i'd argue that that's where you learn a good 75% of troubleshooting 15:41:23 ohsnap: Yeah my most popular courses were the build by hand ones. And as PagliaccisCloud said you learn the most by troubleshooting 15:42:24 Maybe start with an install by hand not using a deployer, get a feel for the networking and then choose the best installer that meets your needs. The different deployment projects are getting closer and closer in methodology 15:43:44 * ykarel agree with spotz 15:44:24 Documentation is sooo much better then the first installation I ever did:) 15:50:14 ok i think we can close, the discussion can go outside of meeting. Thanks all 15:50:29 thanks all, will definitely give a manual deployment a shot. looking to stand up an env that i can do a lot of VDI testing with vmware/xen/qemu. looking to build out a datacenter for our clients. if you think of any good courses/books or even consultants/providers please pm me any info that i can present to my boss 15:51:08 we're getting all of the power situated in our new building and have ordered a bunch of racks and gear so ill need to have something going in the next few months 15:53:05 #endmeeting