15:00:45 <PagliaccisCloud> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2019-08-14
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15:02:03 <jcapitao> PagliaccisCloud: hello
15:02:11 <jpena> o/
15:02:27 <PagliaccisCloud> #chair jpena jcapitao
15:02:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud jcapitao jpena
15:02:28 <openstack> Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud jcapitao jpena
15:02:35 <amoralej> o/
15:02:50 <PagliaccisCloud> #chair amoralej
15:02:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud amoralej jcapitao jpena
15:02:51 <openstack> Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud amoralej jcapitao jpena
15:08:59 <rdogerrit> Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder-distgit rpm-master: Initial packaging  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21810
15:09:04 <PagliaccisCloud> Ready to get started everyone?
15:10:16 <PagliaccisCloud> #topic [apevec, dms] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-openstacksdk/pull-request/4 updating clients in Fedora Rawhide to the OpenStack release under development?
15:11:55 <amoralej> apevec, ^
15:12:08 <amoralej> so the request is to update openstack clients in fedora
15:12:40 <amoralej> i'm inclined to keep clients from last released openstack
15:12:44 <amoralej> i.e. stein now
15:13:30 <amoralej> but i think the actual question was to update f30 and f29 to stein
15:14:05 <amoralej> according to comments in the PR
15:14:17 <amoralej> we could update to what is in rawhide in F30
15:14:33 <amoralej> f29 is more complicated because of the py2/py3 stuff
15:14:36 <jpena> I think we should at least have stein in the latest released fedora, i.e. f30
15:14:56 <amoralej> apevec, dmsimard  ^ would that be good enough?
15:15:03 <jpena> and try to bump those versions after we get train, etc
15:15:09 <amoralej> yes
15:15:13 <jpena> so latest released fedora == latest released openstack
15:15:16 <amoralej> that's the idea
15:15:29 <amoralej> tbh that was the idea for rawhide
15:15:35 <dmsimard> hello o/
15:15:41 <amoralej> i didn't plan to update in stable releases
15:15:47 <PagliaccisCloud> #chair dmsimard
15:15:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud amoralej dmsimard jcapitao jpena
15:15:48 <openstack> Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud amoralej dmsimard jcapitao jpena
15:15:48 <amoralej> but i could update f30
15:15:54 <PagliaccisCloud> Morning dmsimard!!
15:16:02 <amoralej> dmsimard, wrt clients update in fedora
15:16:27 <amoralej> are the versions in rawhide good enough for you right now?
15:16:38 <amoralej> i'd prefer not to switch to train until it's GA
15:17:00 <dmsimard> amoralej: openstacksdk doesn't rely on clients anymore though, does it ?
15:17:14 <dmsimard> formerly known as shade
15:17:15 <amoralej> nop
15:17:43 <amoralej> but, it's more a matter of keeping a criteria for every openstack package
15:17:51 <amoralej> instead of doing one by one selection
15:18:03 <dmsimard> amoralej: there is a distinction between something like nova and openstacksdk
15:18:41 <dmsimard> (not that we ship nova in fedora anyway..)
15:18:48 <amoralej> openstacksdk uses things like keystoneauth1
15:19:00 <amoralej> and follows u-c and stable branches
15:19:08 <dmsimard> u-c for openstacksdk is 0.33 though
15:19:13 <amoralej> in master
15:19:18 <amoralej> but we keep stein
15:19:22 <amoralej> latest released
15:19:24 <amoralej> in fedora
15:19:25 <dmsimard> fair
15:19:37 <dmsimard> rawhide is the equivalent of master I suppose
15:19:50 <dmsimard> or should be
15:19:51 <amoralej> dmsimard, my proposal is to update f30 with latest in rawhide
15:20:17 <amoralej> dmsimard, we can't follow the updates speed in master for fedora even in rawhide
15:20:32 <amoralej> unless we do more automation
15:20:40 <amoralej> which is not in place
15:21:00 <amoralej> we've worked to make updates easier and reduce the manual work
15:21:12 <amoralej> but it's not like rdo trunk
15:21:17 <dmsimard> right
15:21:45 <dmsimard> it turns out that fbo has been working on getting pagure PRs tested with distro jobs to eventually get automated builds but we're not there quite yet
15:21:46 <amoralej> btw, dmsimard is that for zuul?
15:22:05 <amoralej> what is requiring openstacksdk?
15:22:29 <dmsimard> amoralej: more or less, we needed an interim before the release of centos 8 and tried distro packages instead of pip to run ansible openstack modules
15:23:14 <amoralej> ok
15:23:28 <amoralej> and it's 0.27 too old for openstack modules in ansible?
15:23:59 <dmsimard> 0.13 (iirc) was definitely too old, 0.27 is working for us so far
15:24:25 <dmsimard> then again
15:24:33 <dmsimard> perhaps we could've taken an old version of ansible and it might have worked
15:24:46 <rdogerrit> Gaël Chamoulaud created openstack/tripleo-validations-distgit rpm-master: Add python*-oslo-utils dependency  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21843
15:25:10 <amoralej> we can update to 0.27 in f30
15:25:15 <dmsimard> I didn't bisect where exactly the thing breaks
15:25:15 <amoralej> also need f29?
15:25:22 <dmsimard> f30 is fine
15:25:26 <amoralej> ok
15:25:32 <amoralej> will do that, then
15:25:46 <dmsimard> I can update my PR to address the failing build and other comments
15:26:05 <amoralej> #action openstack-sig to update openstack clients in fedora 30 with latest versions in rawhide
15:26:34 <amoralej> ok, thanks dmsimard yes, let's keep the conversation in the PRs
15:27:56 <amoralej> i think we can move on
15:28:08 <dmsimard> yup, thanks
15:28:19 <PagliaccisCloud> Thanks folks. Open floor time!
15:28:27 <PagliaccisCloud> #topic Open floor
15:30:40 <PagliaccisCloud> Anything you want to bring up for discussion?
15:31:47 <jpena> nothing fo rme
15:32:15 <amoralej> not from me
15:32:54 <jcapitao> nothing for me as well
15:35:32 <PagliaccisCloud> Well I guess we can move on to next week's chair
15:35:38 <PagliaccisCloud> #topic next week's chair
15:35:54 <PagliaccisCloud> Any volunteers?
15:37:07 <jpena> I'll take it
15:37:11 <jpena> I haven't chaired for a while
15:37:23 <PagliaccisCloud> Sweet, thanks jpena
15:37:45 <PagliaccisCloud> #action jpena will chair next week's meeting
15:39:35 <rdogerrit> Merged rdo-infra/ci-config master: Remove F28 from dlrn promoter files  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21841
15:39:37 <PagliaccisCloud> So I guess I'll give you all 20min back. Thanks for coming, everyone!
15:39:46 <PagliaccisCloud> #endmeeting