14:01:43 #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2020-05-13 14:01:43 Meeting started Wed May 13 14:01:43 2020 UTC. 14:01:43 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 14:01:43 The chair is leanderthal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:43 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:43 The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting_-_2020-05-13' 14:01:44 ack 14:01:44 Meeting started Wed May 13 14:01:43 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is leanderthal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:46 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:48 The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2020_05_13' 14:01:49 #topic rollcall 14:01:53 come on put your hands UP! 14:01:58 o/ 14:02:01 #chair iurygregory spotz amoralej 14:02:01 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory leanderthal spotz 14:02:02 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory leanderthal spotz 14:02:44 o/ 14:02:49 #chair jcapitao 14:02:49 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jcapitao leanderthal spotz 14:02:49 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jcapitao leanderthal spotz 14:03:03 ykarel, jpena - you two in the hizzouse? 14:03:11 o/ 14:03:17 #chair ykarel 14:03:17 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jcapitao leanderthal spotz ykarel 14:03:18 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jcapitao leanderthal spotz ykarel 14:03:38 o/ (but multi-booked) 14:03:43 #chair jpena 14:03:43 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jcapitao jpena leanderthal spotz ykarel 14:03:44 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jcapitao jpena leanderthal spotz ykarel 14:03:47 jpena, no worries 14:04:00 That's my life:) 14:04:08 yar. 14:05:43 #topic [amoralej] RDO Ussuri GA - definition of done 14:05:52 amoralej, how're we doing? 14:05:58 ok 14:06:00 let's start 14:06:33 so, as you can see by previous logs in this channel, upstream has merged Ussuri GA releases 14:06:40 WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 14:06:47 (ahem) 14:06:51 #info Ussuri GA is released https://review.opendev.org/#/c/726484/ 14:07:19 we are in the process of building packages in CBS for those and promote to -testing and -release 14:07:21 \o/ 14:07:26 \o/ 14:07:37 so. awesome. 14:07:40 but, there is not tripleo releases in ussuri yet 14:07:55 right; which is normal 14:07:56 tripleo and kolla are trailing cycle projects and take some more time 14:08:01 yes, it's expected 14:08:04 yar. 14:08:13 but brings the question of when to announce RDO GA 14:08:20 we *can* announce later. 14:08:24 tripleo folks told me they plan to branch next week 14:08:30 so i'm in favor or waiting 14:08:35 i've finished the release announcement 14:08:36 i think there is no rush 14:08:49 AND spotz and iurygregory are ready to handle the actual announcement 14:08:52 +1 on waiting for announcement 14:08:54 this is my last week 14:08:57 so we can keep pushing builds 14:08:58 i'm okay with waiting 14:09:07 +1 on waiting 14:09:16 i like the idea of waiting for tripleo and kolla 14:09:16 makes sense to me =) 14:09:18 but for announcement wait for "release criteria" or definition of done 14:09:26 for me release criteria is 14:09:34 - all packstack jobs passing 14:09:39 - all p-o-i jobs passing 14:09:50 - we can build tripleo images with clousig repo 14:10:03 - we can do a standalone deployment with cloudsig builds 14:10:30 we have a published definition of done in https://blogs.rdoproject.org/2016/05/technical-definition-of-done/ 14:10:41 but that's now out-of-date 14:10:52 so i'd propose to update it 14:10:59 Yeah makes sense to wait, especially if the trailing projects are still out there 14:11:02 ++ 14:11:14 awww, trown++ 14:11:14 leanderthal: Karma for trown changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:11:14 and publish it somewhere in rdoproject.org 14:11:26 yeah, trown did it 4 years ago :) 14:11:46 definitely out of date if 4 years old:) 14:11:52 amoralej, would you do an updated definition of done, please? on blogs.rdoproject.org 14:11:56 do you need an account? 14:12:00 ykarel, how far are we of being able to add a oooq job which builds images and deploy standalone in rdoinfo check pipeline? 14:12:03 i would normally volunteer, but..... 14:12:14 here's the thing. 14:12:22 i mean, waiting for ykarel 's answer. 14:12:39 leanderthal, you think it's better to do it in that blog or in https://www.rdoproject.org/ ? 14:12:53 amoralej, u mean build without tripleo and kolla CBS builds? 14:12:55 Or both? 14:13:00 using tripleo from trunk 14:13:11 amoralej, in the blogs because it varies from release to release - every six months, we should agree on done. 14:13:13 ykarel, i mean using only clousig packages 14:13:25 in the job 14:13:31 we had it for centos7 14:13:42 but iirc we have some issues in centos8 with the local registry? 14:13:51 spotz, the only reason i wouldn't put it on the website directly is that the website is pure chaos. it'll get lost. 14:13:59 amoralej, shouldn't take much effort as we enabled it for centos8 trunk builds 14:14:02 actually.... 14:14:03 it's not merged yet though 14:14:07 heheh 14:14:33 Yatin Karel proposed rdo-jobs master: Enable container build in CentOS8 001 job https://review.rdoproject.org/r/26087 14:14:38 amoralej, ^^ 14:14:39 maybe it'd go nicely on https://www.rdoproject.org/rdo/release-checklist/ 14:14:41 ykarel, ok, let's see if we can get that job for the time hen tripleo create their tags 14:15:15 leanderthal, i think that's the perfect place 14:15:18 amoralej, ack 14:15:27 a new section 14:15:38 amoralej, do you have time to add it towards the beginning? 14:15:44 "Technical definition of done" 14:15:48 Yeah 14:15:54 +1 14:16:04 but also, the announcement needs to happen before the next major event after the release. 14:16:16 i'd say at the beginning 14:16:23 i can send a PR and discuss there 14:16:29 this is why, even though multi arch was still broken for train, we published before open infra shanghai 14:16:49 So we need to announce before PTG then? 14:16:56 so the timing needs to be 'ideally' once the technical definition is completed, but, yes, before PTG 14:17:03 that's a hard stop. 14:17:16 So gives us about 2 weeks 14:17:23 and not on a friday or the weekend 14:17:26 should be enough 14:17:30 so the deadline is 28 may 14:17:52 ETA for tripleo release is 21st 14:17:55 weshay|ruck, ^ 14:17:59 that'd be awesome. 14:18:36 #action amoralej to update Definition of Done in https://www.rdoproject.org/rdo/release-checklist/ 14:19:07 #agreed to wait for TripleO Ussuri release before announcing RDO Ussuri release 14:19:08 If tripleO does next week we should be fine I would say =) 14:19:14 exactly 14:19:54 any questions on definition of done before we move on to the next topic? 14:20:24 #agreed to announce RDO Ussuri release before PTG 14:20:52 sent out a calendar reminder to iurygregory, Jason and myself for that date 14:20:57 perfect 14:21:01 spotz, tks! 14:21:04 jbrooks, ^^ 14:21:12 jbrooks is in here, by the way 14:21:15 that's jason 14:21:19 o/ 14:21:22 hi jbrooks:) 14:21:24 he's just now waking up 14:21:28 #chair jbrooks 14:21:28 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jbrooks jcapitao jpena leanderthal spotz ykarel 14:21:28 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jbrooks jcapitao jpena leanderthal spotz ykarel 14:21:29 hey spotz 14:21:31 hey =) 14:21:33 #topic [amoralej] Removal of RDO Trunk Pike and Ocata 14:21:41 amoralej, this is also you 14:22:56 #info pike and ocata are in Extended Maintenance phase upstream and with a very small number of new commits 14:23:34 #info RDO made CloudSIG repos for pike and ocata EOL but maintains RDO Trunk repos for them 14:23:56 i doubt it provides any value, so i'm proposing to alse remove RDO Trunk repos for pike and ocata 14:23:59 from trunk server 14:24:21 makes sense to me 14:24:35 let's advertise as still some jobs are running for tripleo in upstream 14:24:44 upgrade from pike to queens 14:24:54 ^ that's my only concern, if some of them are being used for FFU 14:25:05 please send an email to the lists - including centos-devel - to let people know that they're going away in, say, a month? and then remove them then? 14:25:18 oh, valid. 14:25:21 #info cron jobs to build new commits has been stopped https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/18347/ 14:25:50 jpena, ykarel how can we find out? 14:26:01 we need to ask the tripleo team 14:26:06 yep 14:26:21 i doubt we have some upgrade job for those releases, but let's ask 14:26:22 jpena, or ykarel will one of you take the action item to confirm? 14:27:03 #undo 14:27:03 Removing item from minutes: INFO by amoralej at 14:25:21 : cron jobs to build new commits has been stopped https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/18347/ 14:27:04 Removing item from minutes: #info cron jobs to build new commits has been stopped https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/18347/ 14:27:08 https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1877031 highlighted the issue with upgrade jobs from pike to queens 14:27:10 Launchpad bug 1877031 in tripleo "queens tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-upgrades broken for ansible version" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Rafael Folco (rafaelfolco) 14:27:17 so jobs are running currently 14:27:23 #info cron jobs to build new commits from ocata and pike have been stopped https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/18347/ 14:27:37 there is a proposal to drop that job 14:28:01 so we need to followup with TripleO wrt there usage of trunk repos before cleanup 14:28:35 https://review.opendev.org/#/c/727696/ 14:28:42 yep 14:28:47 let's confirm with them 14:29:33 leanderthal, ok i can drop a mail on openstack and rdo list to remove the repos 14:29:44 and centos-devel please, ykarel ? 14:29:52 leanderthal, sure will include that as well 14:29:56 perfect 14:29:59 thx ykarel 14:30:46 #action ykarel to send mail wrt pike and ocata trunk repos removal 14:31:03 who is going to follow up with TripleO specifically? 14:31:13 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1877031 14:31:14 Launchpad bug 1877031 in tripleo "queens tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-upgrades broken for ansible version" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Rafael Folco (rafaelfolco) 14:31:41 I highly recommend saying something along the lines of, 'we're doing this thing on 01 July. speak now or forever hold your peace' 14:32:06 ^ ++ 14:32:42 Scream test for the win 14:32:45 ++ to remove pike & ocata repos. Maybe openstack-discuss is the right channel. I'm sure we have operators using tripleo (outside of OSP context) 14:34:52 EmilienM, cool! 14:35:17 any other questions / comments re: pike / ocata before we move on to RDO Ussuri Release Announcement 14:38:11 #topic [leanderthal] RDO Ussuri Release Announcement 14:38:26 #link https://review.rdoproject.org/etherpad/p/ussuri-release-announcement 14:38:31 #link https://review.rdoproject.org/etherpad/p/ussuri-release-announcement 14:38:44 #action spotz to coordinate with iurygregory regarding release checklist / announcements 14:38:58 #link https://www.rdoproject.org/rdo/release-checklist/ 14:39:05 ack 14:39:38 as we already discussed, we're going to officially announce once the criteria of 'done' is completed; however, it needs to be by thursday, 28 may at the latest. 14:39:53 yeah 14:39:58 thx for setting up the calendar reminder for you, jbrooks and iurygregory, spotz 14:40:13 My pleasure:) 14:40:14 any questions on that? 14:40:16 +1 14:40:22 nope =) 14:41:30 not I 14:41:57 #topic Next Week's Chair? 14:42:03 anyone keen? 14:42:20 i can take it 14:42:27 thx so much ykarel 14:42:38 #topic Open Floor 14:43:05 Will miss you Rain! 14:43:20 I'm leaving Red Hat and I'll miss the RDO COMMUNITY SO MUCH! 14:43:28 spotz typed faster than me 14:43:34 we'll miss you too :) 14:43:36 spotz++ 14:43:36 leanderthal: Karma for spotz changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:43:38 amoralej++ 14:43:38 leanderthal: Karma for amoralej changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:43:44 iurygregory++ 14:43:57 i wonder if there's a limit to how many plus pluses i can give out in one go 14:44:03 you will be missed leanderthal , but i hope u will be around :) 14:44:05 jcapitao++ 14:44:05 leanderthal: Karma for jcapitao changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:44:10 there isn't =) 14:44:13 ykarel++ 14:44:13 leanderthal: Karma for ykarel changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:44:26 jpena++ 14:44:26 leanderthal: Karma for jpena changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:44:27 leanderthal, good luck =) 14:44:29 jbrooks++ 14:44:31 <3 14:44:32 leanderthal: Karma for jasonbrooks changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:44:32 leanderthal++ 14:44:40 we'll miss you leanderthal :o) 14:44:51 thx so much!! ! 14:44:55 best of luck leanderthal! 14:45:03 mjturek++ 14:45:06 #chair mjturek 14:45:06 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jbrooks jcapitao jpena leanderthal mjturek spotz ykarel 14:45:07 Current chairs: amoralej iurygregory jbrooks jcapitao jpena leanderthal mjturek spotz ykarel 14:45:14 leanderthal++ good luck :) 14:45:14 jcapitao: Karma for leanderthal changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:45:27 do you all wanna hear where i'm going? 14:45:31 just between us? 14:45:32 ;-) 14:45:41 hehe 14:47:19 ... wait for it ... 14:47:37 Merged openstack/nova-distgit ussuri-rdo: openstack-nova-21.0.0-1 https://review.rdoproject.org/r/27516 14:48:17 I mean, I'm not pausing for dramatic effect; if no one says yes, then I'm not telling. 14:48:35 I'm curious :D 14:48:55 I'm headed over to Packet / Equinix to be a Developer Advocate 14:49:10 Which is why I can definitely do CloudSIG but not sure if I'm also allowed to do RDO. 14:49:20 cool =) 14:49:26 * jpena googles 14:49:50 Yatin Karel created rdoinfo master: Promote GA builds to ussuri-testing https://review.rdoproject.org/r/27524 14:49:54 all GA bits are built, promoting to ussuri-testing with ^^ 14:50:10 ykarel, SQUEEEEE!! ! 14:51:07 anything else for open floor today? 14:51:47 jpena, https://www.packet.com/ 14:52:26 upstream GA announced http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2020-May/002035.html 14:52:36 NICE!! ! 14:52:45 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2020-May/002035.html 14:54:03 * iurygregory discovered that there is an openstack-announce list... 14:55:47 nice 14:55:59 i'll give ya back five minutes of your day! have a great one, everyone! 14:56:00 #endmeeting