14:01:29 <amoralej> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2020-09-23
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14:01:34 <amoralej> meeting time!
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14:01:41 <amoralej> #topic roll call
14:01:41 <spotz> o/
14:02:15 <amoralej> #chair spotz
14:02:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej spotz
14:02:16 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej spotz
14:02:26 <amoralej> ykarel, jcapitao are you around?
14:02:34 <ykarel> o/
14:02:39 <amoralej> #chair ykarel
14:02:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej spotz ykarel
14:02:41 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej spotz ykarel
14:03:17 <spotz> I kinda volunteered jpena for the first topic:)
14:03:29 <jcapitao> o/
14:03:32 <jpena> o/
14:03:34 <amoralej> #chair jcapitao jpena
14:03:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej jcapitao jpena spotz ykarel
14:03:34 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej jcapitao jpena spotz ykarel
14:03:38 <amoralej> so let's start
14:03:42 <amoralej> with first topic
14:04:01 <amoralej> #topic SiG or Packaging Project?
14:04:08 <amoralej> have no idea what is this about tbh
14:04:40 <jpena> The rpm-packaging project, which is part of OpenStack and where RDO has some presence, is currently debating whether we should turn into a SIG
14:04:57 <jpena> note this is just for rpm-packaging, not RDO... but releated
14:05:00 <jpena> related*
14:05:33 <spotz> But as making RPMs does relate to us I thought it might be nice info for the group to have
14:05:45 <amoralej> jpena, SIG as in https://governance.openstack.org/sigs/ ?
14:06:19 <jpena> yes
14:06:33 <amoralej> what it implies in practical terms?
14:07:29 <jpena> the output from the SIG is not considered an official "openstack deliverable" (I think that's the term), and it simplifies governance a bit for us
14:07:46 <jpena> plus we don't need to elect someone as PTL on every cycle, which has proven a bit complicated lately
14:07:54 <jpena> you can follow the discussion in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017392.html
14:08:28 <jpena> all of this is mostly FYI, and in case there is any interest in having a tighter relationship with the SIG
14:08:35 <amoralej> ah, right, you are currently official project
14:09:38 <spotz> jpena: the non-PTL leadership model being talked about help if electing a PTL is the main issue? Or is SiG the better fit?
14:09:46 <spotz> would the...
14:10:17 <jpena> well, it was one of the issues. Also, having a lighter governance was considered a plus
14:10:57 <amoralej> in fact, rpm-packaging do provide actual deliverables per release?
14:11:16 <amoralej> i mean there are no packages themselves, right?
14:11:20 <jpena> right
14:11:26 <amoralej> only building artifacts
14:11:31 <jpena> the only deliverable are the spec templates, actually
14:11:36 <jpena> so it makes sense
14:11:40 <amoralej> yes
14:11:52 <rdogerrit> rdo-trunk created openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing-distgit victoria-rdo: openstack-neutron-dynamic-routing: failed to build 92d092f  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/29572
14:11:52 <jcapitao> so we should vote on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752661/ ?
14:12:59 <spotz> Reviews are always good
14:13:45 <amoralej> can we move to next topic or there is something else to share on this?
14:14:18 <amoralej> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017392.html
14:14:30 <amoralej> #info The rpm-packaging project, which is part of OpenStack and where RDO has some presence, is currently debating whether we should turn into a SIG
14:14:52 <amoralej> let's move on
14:15:05 <jpena> yes, let's move on
14:15:07 <spotz> ok
14:15:17 <amoralej> #topic Mascot theme. what kind of duck do we want, a Sysadmin, Developer, etc - confirm test days for social media
14:15:21 <amoralej> spotz, all yours
14:16:23 <spotz> First I'll be pinging Brian Proffitt to send out some tweets for us for Test Days. All info looks to be merged on to the site. I did want to point out with UTC it does show starting on 10/4 vs 10/5. Everyone ok with that?
14:18:19 <amoralej> where shows 10/4?
14:18:30 <spotz> The calendar on the rdoproject site
14:18:45 <spotz> http://rdoproject.org/events/
14:18:50 <ykarel> On Sunday?
14:19:10 <amoralej> yup, i see it
14:19:19 <spotz> We say istarts Monday 12:01 AM I'm not sure why the calendar shows that
14:19:42 <spotz> But I wanted to make sure we're ok before we advertise
14:20:00 <amoralej> it'd be better if it shows only 5 and 6
14:20:00 <ykarel> Ok it's 10/5, 10/6
14:20:13 <amoralej> but not sure if it can be fixed
14:20:50 <spotz> Yeah I definitely didn't put 10/4 anywhere, I'm thinking it's a calendar timezone thing
14:21:00 <rdogerrit> Merged openstack/ironic-inspector-distgit ussuri-rdo: openstack-ironic-inspector-10.1.1-1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/29566
14:21:34 <spotz> I'll get with Brian later today so we can start going with the social media.
14:22:00 <amoralej> spotz, yes, it must be calendar locale
14:22:15 <amoralej> but yeah, we can start with socializing it
14:22:24 <spotz> Now the second part is I talked to Tuomas earlier today and he's working on mascot ideas. I thought we'd just have a duck but apparently our dick needs a theme:)
14:22:37 <spotz> oops... our DUCK
14:22:49 <amoralej> lol
14:23:10 <jpena> :P
14:23:14 <ykarel> :D
14:23:14 <spotz> And English is my first langauge I just can;t type:)
14:23:53 <spotz> So do we want an Ops duck, a dev duck, some other theme for our duck?
14:24:38 <jpena> a duck floating on a cloud?
14:24:59 <amoralej> cloudy duck
14:25:11 <spotz> I like that, any other ideas I can report back with?
14:25:44 <amoralej> duckstack
14:26:10 <rh-jelabarre> (I thought the duck was supposed to be a Babylon5 reference)
14:26:54 <spotz> rh-jelabarre: Not sure, when we started talking mascot someone pointed out we already had the rubber ducks so trying to keep with that:)
14:27:49 <spotz> And the hope besides a standalone duck we can put it on the RDO with hopefully the TripleO owl
14:28:34 <amoralej> no idea, ducks were here when i arrived here
14:29:04 <jcapitao> what's the history of the rdo duck ?
14:29:14 <amoralej> no idea at all
14:29:40 <jpena> I always thought it was related to the rubber duck debugging technique
14:29:49 <spotz> We could maybe ask Rain, I just know they were always themed to Sumit location
14:29:54 <ykarel> In Paris, at the OpenStack Summit in 2014, eNovance were giving away ducks as their booth swag. When eNovance joined the Red Hat family, RDO decided to continue this tradition, and has done ducks each OpenStack Summit since.
14:30:00 <ykarel> as per http://rdoproject.org/rdo/ducks/
14:30:35 <spotz> I've been sharing with Tuomas he just gave me - https://res.cloudinary.com/swamp-cartoons/image/upload/w_545,q_auto/v1548388290/10000-10999/10956c.jpg
14:30:49 * jcapitao needs to RTFM
14:31:00 <jcapitao> thx ykarel
14:31:25 <spotz> Hey I'd forgotten we had ducks originally:) And I know I have a few of them unless the spots got them
14:32:20 <spotz> So anyways we'll work on that, any other ideas get them to me soon.
14:32:34 <Duck> quack
14:32:55 <spotz> Oh and we have a booth at Devconf, found out Friday evening and made a quick video on Monday. feel free to come hangout:)
14:33:14 <spotz> Now to important things like the release
14:33:21 <amoralej> :)
14:33:34 <amoralej> spotz, wrt booth at devconf
14:33:45 <amoralej> it's for RDO? openstack?
14:33:47 <rdogerrit> Merged rdoinfo master: Rebuild packages from Fedora to match u-c  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/29564
14:34:04 <spotz> RDO, apparently Rain had arranged it but no one knew about it
14:34:17 <amoralej> nice
14:34:39 <spotz> So we were supopsed to have a 30-60 second video. Mine's 2:37:)
14:34:44 <amoralej> #info RDO has  a booth at Devconf, feel free to come
14:34:58 <amoralej> i'll check
14:35:13 <jcapitao> me too
14:35:33 <amoralej> next topic
14:35:40 <spotz> It's basically a chat room, hours we needed to staff were conference breaks on Thursday and Friday
14:35:50 <amoralej> #topic Update about Victoria release preparation
14:36:00 <amoralej> jcapitao, ykarel you want to share status?
14:37:11 <jcapitao> we built almost all client and libs
14:37:39 <amoralej> most projects are creating RC1 releases
14:37:57 <amoralej> we can also start building those, right?
14:38:04 <jcapitao> and branched core projects, we are now waiting upstream to release rc1
14:38:16 <jcapitao> yeah it's ongoing
14:38:38 <ykarel> yeap we can start doing builds for already branched core projects
14:39:00 <ykarel> Also we have puppet promotion jobs running for centos8-victoria https://ci.centos.org/view/rdo/view/weirdo-pipelines/view/weirdo-promote-puppet-centos8-victoria/
14:39:15 <ykarel> #link https://ci.centos.org/view/rdo/view/weirdo-pipelines/view/weirdo-promote-puppet-centos8-victoria/
14:40:25 <jcapitao> also, we are still updating deps, i'm currently pinging folks to merge (or not) my PR in src.f.o
14:40:28 <amoralej> we can use rdo_release_review tool to create them for already merged rc1
14:40:45 <amoralej> quite easily
14:41:46 <jcapitao> need to check that
14:42:02 <jcapitao> is it in releng ?
14:42:05 <amoralej> yes
14:42:15 <amoralej> it's what we use in automated reviews in ci
14:42:40 <amoralej> you can ask to create reviews for all new releases in victoria in the last X days, i.e
14:42:52 <amoralej> or for a specific review in openstack/releases
14:43:11 <jcapitao> okk, I'll definitely check on that
14:43:52 <ykarel> https://review.rdoproject.org/zuul/builds?project=openstack%2Freleases&job_name=rdo-send-stable-release is the job
14:44:02 <ykarel> it's failed for some commits, need to check on that
14:44:55 <amoralej> i.e. rdo_release_review -u <user> -c RDO -e dev@lists.rdoproject.org -r victoria -d 5 -p <path for rdoinfo>
14:44:58 <amoralej> jcapitao, ^
14:45:07 <amoralej> you can use --dry-run first to test what it will do
14:45:29 <amoralej> uh, a bunch of failures
14:45:36 <ykarel> ohhk it's urllib3.exceptions.MaxRetryError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='raw.githubusercontent.com', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /openstack/releases/fe0523856a37874ab8b804a30a7a5b8b76401a85/deliverables/victoria
14:49:02 <amoralej> ok, we'll check later
14:49:05 <amoralej> so, yes
14:49:19 <amoralej> let's try to make that work and build RC1 as soon as we can
14:49:21 <ykarel> some days ago we added some retries with https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/29145/, but likely it's not fixing completely
14:49:29 <amoralej> so that we can start testing packstack/p-o-i
14:50:03 <amoralej> ykarel, it may be synchronization issue
14:50:07 <amoralej> from opendev to github
14:50:08 <amoralej> ?
14:50:13 <amoralej> time gap
14:50:21 <amoralej> it's returning 404
14:50:50 <amoralej> anyway we can run it manually with -d
14:50:55 <amoralej> to recover all that failed
14:51:00 <rdogerrit> rdo-trunk created openstack/zaqar-distgit victoria-rdo: openstack-zaqar-11.0.0-0.1.0rc1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/29573
14:51:05 <ykarel> yes hmm possible
14:51:08 <amoralej> oh one running ^
14:51:09 <amoralej> :)
14:51:26 <ykarel> or we can use opendev.org instead of github?
14:52:05 <amoralej> yes, we could
14:52:12 <amoralej> need to look for predictable urls
14:52:32 <amoralej> but that will not help with already failed ones
14:53:00 <ykarel> should look like https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/raw/commit/e95c033861458deff25eee369f81a4e84716177f/deliverables/victoria/tacker-horizon.yaml
14:53:30 <amoralej> ok, that looks good
14:53:33 <ykarel> yes for those need to rerun
14:54:32 <amoralej> anything else wrt victoria preparation?
14:55:00 <jcapitao> nope that's all from me
14:55:07 <amoralej> openstack/requirements project is not branched yet so we can't moving to new tags in rdoinfo
14:55:28 <amoralej> ok, thanks jcapitao ykarel
14:55:52 <amoralej> #topic chair for next week meeting
14:56:02 <amoralej> any volunteer?
14:56:26 <jcapitao> i can take it
14:57:00 <amoralej> #action jcapitao will chair next meeting
14:57:05 <spotz> Thanks jcapitao
14:57:05 <amoralej> #topic open floor
14:57:12 <rdogerrit> rdo-trunk created openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing-distgit rpm-master: openstack-neutron-dynamic-routing: failed to build aea5565  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/29574
14:57:15 <amoralej> we have a couple of minutes for open floor
14:57:21 <amoralej> something you'd like to share?
14:57:40 <spotz> Nothing from me. If you have a summit talk recordings due by 10/1 though
14:59:02 <amoralej> ok, thanks for the reminder
14:59:11 <amoralej> i'm closing the meeting, just in time!
14:59:26 <amoralej> thanks all for joining!
14:59:33 <amoralej> #endmeeting