19:08:53 #startmeeting 19:08:53 Meeting started Tue May 25 19:08:53 2010 UTC. The chair is mchua. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:08:53 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:08:57 #meetingname POSSE weekly meeting 19:08:57 The meeting name has been set to 'posse_weekly_meeting' 19:09:12 micadeyeye, kwurst, et al - hello! 19:09:20 * ianweller lurks 19:09:21 #topic this summer's POSSEs 19:09:23 hey, ianweller 19:09:27 * kwurst waves 19:09:34 #info RIT all set, need to get computer forms from participants 19:09:43 #action mchua figure out Thursday food for RIT 19:09:43 * micadeyeye says hello 19:10:00 #info Worcester looking good; Peter Robinson joining us as tech guru (flying in from London) 19:10:08 kwurst: any notes on Worcester? (Thursday dinner, otherwise?) 19:10:21 #action kwurst to make dinner reservations 19:10:53 How many am I making reservations for? 19:11:20 kwurst: let's say 30. 19:11:43 And what price per person are we aiming for? 19:11:59 * mchua looks up budget 19:12:22 * mchua looks up actual attendee count 19:12:31 What time do we want the reservations for? 19:12:52 kwurst: wait, 15. I'm mixing up the count with Rochester, sorry. 19:13:13 15 sounds more like it... 19:13:27 Are we still at 7 attendees? 19:13:29 kwurst: $30-$35/person 19:13:59 kwurst: 7 confirmed, there may be another app that came in (needs to decide between RIT and Worcester, but I'm going to put them in Worcester if they're ok with that) 19:14:40 mchua: Will you be sending out more info to the attendees? I had one ask when they would hear more. 19:15:24 I'm currently working with Heidi on the POSSE Evaluation IRB. 19:15:53 Anything else I need to do? (Less than 2 weeks to go...) 19:17:08 kwurst: yes - I'm behind on that, should go out tonight or tomorrow morning. 19:17:22 kwurst: other than dinner and networking details, I think we're all set 19:17:30 kwurst: just making sure we can all get on wifi on monday morning :) 19:18:26 I've got the network info for that. Should be fine, but I'll try to test it. 19:18:54 mchua: What time do we want dinner reservations for? 19:19:42 kwurst: Let's say 7pm. That should give everyone enough time to get over. 19:19:56 mchua: Are we meeting here on campus on Sunday night? 19:20:07 kwurst: Yep. I'm going to be bringing in catered food for all. 19:20:22 mchua: Ok, what time for Sunday night? 19:21:47 * mchua looking up schedule 19:22:10 kwurst: let's say 6pm. 19:22:46 mchua: I'll have to send you information on room number and how to find it. 19:22:49 kwurst: Will do. 19:23:04 kwurst: Or send to the POSSE list, if everyone should know it 19:23:11 mchua: OK. 19:23:12 http://teachingopensource.org/mailman/listinfo/posse-worcester 19:23:18 or rather, posse-worcester@teachingopensource.org. 19:23:41 mchua: Is 6pm the time you want to be here, or the time everyone should be here? 19:23:59 kwurst: I'll arrive with food shortly before 6pm, other people can drift in any time after 6. 19:24:15 it's more of a social evening, with food and getting-to-know-folks-before-the-week-starts stuff, no planned events/talks/strict start time. 19:24:28 more like "join us for an informal dinner, food comes out at 6" 19:24:51 I think I can get a room with tables rather than desks. I'll check. 19:24:58 Awesome. 19:26:03 #action kwurst: Send out info on how to get to room for Sunday night. 19:26:30 #action kwurst: Finish IRB submission for POSSE Evaluation 19:26:44 #action kwurst: Test wifi access. 19:26:54 I think Worcester is pretty much set at this point, honestly. 19:27:11 The instructors are all set, the curriculum looks good, just need to get the readings/intro emails out to attendees. 19:27:20 Great! I'm excited! 19:28:19 * mchua too! 19:28:22 okeydokey. 19:28:26 #topic POSSE RIT 19:28:37 #info Attendees set, curriculum set, instructors set, travel details booked 19:28:42 #action mchua book Thursday dinner for POSSE RIT 19:28:50 #action mchua clarify Sunday night gathering for POSSE RIT 19:28:54 #action mchua send out intro email to POSSE RIT 19:29:01 #action mchua send out intro email to POSSE Worcester 19:29:11 #action mchua get attendees to fill in IT forms for POSSE RIT 19:29:25 #action mchua get kickstart file for POSSE RIT (send to RIT IT dept by June 1st) 19:29:44 #action mchua procure thumbdrives for POSSE RIT, Worcester (check prior meeting minutes for details) 19:29:51 Aaaaand that's about it, really. 19:29:57 #topic POSSE CMU 19:30:25 #info POSSE CMU is aiming towards next summer because of various local situations 19:30:39 (which we've sort of been predicting for a while, but finally confirmed last week) 19:30:45 * mchua a little sad about this, but... oh well. 19:30:48 #topic POSSE California 19:30:55 quaid: ping? 19:31:09 #info quaid, mchua, alolita have meeting re: POSSE California status in ~30m, will update then 19:31:28 quaid: (just checking to see if you have anything you wanted to share right now, but by default I'll wait for our meeting.) 19:31:40 #topic POSSEs in fall and beyond 19:31:46 micadeyeye: How's South Africa coming along? :) 19:32:03 #topic POSSE China likely to happen first week of August; go/no-go date June 1st 19:32:05 I am yet to get the second instructor. 19:33:42 micadeyeye: Ok - how is that going, is there anything I can do to help? 19:34:13 Maybe, you could get us someone. 19:34:31 That's where we are. 19:34:49 micadeyeye: Ok. You expressed interest in being an instructor yourself, earlier. 19:34:56 micadeyeye: You're a Mozilla developer, right? 19:35:05 I wasn't sure if Jan was showing interest. 19:35:16 Yes, I am. 19:35:28 micadeyeye: oh, no, Karsten was just using Jan as an example of a person who might to be able to teach a POSSE without very much prep (or without having attended one before). 19:35:48 You said so. 19:36:18 I got that; I was wondering why Jan replied to my mail. 19:36:27 oh, he did? 19:36:29 * mchua missed that one 19:36:31 * mchua checks TOS list archives 19:36:52 Ah, http://teachingopensource.org/pipermail/tos/2010-May/001224.html 19:37:28 micadeyeye: Ok, so here's what we can do - I'll talk with Jan and see if he can/wants-to-be the 2nd instructor, and if so, then we'll take care of it. 19:37:54 great. 19:38:09 do we need tech gurus too? 19:38:11 micadeyeye: If not, and you've got time before the POSSE to prepare a Mozilla-based curriculum (I would hope that humph would be able to help us with this, or at least review it) 19:38:45 micadeyeye: and time the Friday or Saturday before POSSE to meet in person and go over things, I can come out earlier, and spend time between now and the POSSE date with you gearing up to teach. 19:39:00 Must/will the curriculum be diff. from what we already have? 19:39:04 micadeyeye: Yes, we'll need a tech guru for whatever project we end up working with (if it's myself and Jan, I would assume that this would be Fedora, so we'd find someone.) 19:39:36 Okay. 19:39:45 micadeyeye: If Jan and I are teaching a Fedora-based POSSE, we're pretty much set; the curriculum has already been adapted to that project. If you and I are teaching Mozilla, we'd need to adapt the curriculum to Mozilla's projects, which is where I would hope humph would be able to help. 19:39:52 Since I'm not familiar with that community. 19:40:06 Okay. 19:40:26 micadeyeye: Also, re: tech guru - if Jan and I are teaching a Fedora-based one, he and I would take care of finding a tech guru from that community; if it's a Mozilla-based one, you and humph and others (I'll help as I can) would need to find someone from that community who could come. 19:40:41 micadeyeye: Do you have a preference between you teaching + Mozilla-based, or Jan teaching + Fedora-based? 19:41:14 I would like to see Jan teaching Fedora. 19:41:47 micadeyeye: The time commitment to prep for teaching I'd estimate at about 50-60 hours spread out over 10 weeks or so over the next 3 months, btw, if you were to teach Mozilla. 19:41:58 micadeyeye: Ok. I'll check with him first, then our fallback will be you and Mozilla. 19:42:10 okay. 19:42:27 micadeyeye: (assuming you have the time to prep - I'd love to work with you on this, just don't want you to be overloaded, since I know you're already busy!) 19:42:47 #action mchua ask Jan if he can co-teach POSSE South Africa; fallback is micadeyeye and adapting the curriculum to Mozilla 19:43:23 great. 19:43:34 micadeyeye: Ok - thanks for being so patient here. :) I think finding an instructor, especially in a new geo where there haven't been any POSSEs before, is probably the hardest part. 19:43:41 sounds like attendees are already intersted though ;) 19:43:49 er, interested. 19:44:09 yes, they are. 19:44:55 So hopefully we'll nail down instructors soon and will be able to find our minimum 5 attendees and call POSSE South Africa a go. :) 19:45:00 micadeyeye: any other questions? 19:45:08 I will be sending a call for participation to my colleagues later. I wanted to know if there would be anyone interested from neighbouring universities. 19:45:12 KageSenshi: ping - any questions on POSSE Malaysia, too? 19:45:14 micadeyeye: Awesome. 19:46:12 micadeyeye: The event's still tentative until we nail down the instructors and the minimum number of attendees, so I might phrase it as "we need at least 5 attendees to run the event; if you're interested in attending, let me know" 19:47:27 attending POSSE SA? 19:47:48 * quaid comes in at the end 19:48:49 mchua: you meant POSSE SA. right? 19:49:36 * quaid can talk about POSSE Cali if there is time at the end 19:49:55 micadeyeye: Yes, POSSE SA is still tentative until we figure out instructors and have a minimum attendee count. 19:50:11 (but hopefully the first one will happen soon; I'll be pinging Jan daily until it does.) 19:50:14 quaid: awesome. 19:50:20 okay 19:50:29 thanks a bunch. 19:50:33 micadeyeye: thank *you!* 19:50:44 micadeyeye: anything else? 19:50:51 nope 19:50:55 ok! 19:50:57 quaid: you're on 19:50:59 #topic POSSE CA 19:51:11 * mchua has been a POSSE CA recruiting slacker, attempting to fix that over the next few hours 19:51:15 ok, so we're short on attendees 19:51:22 #info POSSE CA short on attendees 19:51:37 we've all been a bit slackered and distracted and not communicating in the same direction. 19:51:39 Alolita will be here in ~10m to discuss what we're doing, iirc 19:52:01 so it's feeling like a great idea we didn't get enough powder behind. 19:52:51 which is probably because we are running thin supply lines. 19:53:01 * quaid seems stuck on combat metaphors today, sorry 19:53:19 so we're at risk, primarily because ... 19:53:31 we need to tell the attendees we -do_ have if the show is going to happen or not. 19:53:54 and, yeah, in a few minutes we'll continue with discussions on this topic. 19:53:57 19:53:59 else? 19:54:21 * micadeyeye says bye 19:54:59 quaid: I think that pretty much sums it up, aye. 19:55:18 #action quaid, mchua, alolita decide POSSE Cali go/no-go 19:55:28 I'll wrap logs and we'll start here again with alolita in a few minutes. 19:55:32 #endmeeting