#teachingopensource Meeting

Meeting started by mchua at 02:47:30 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. http://sourceforge.net/projects/manstyle/ (gregdek, 03:27:36)

  2. Planet review (mchua, 12:37:55)
    1. We'll be going through our 3 planets (SL, TOS, Fedora) briefly with an ongoing narration. (mchua, 12:38:11)
    2. http://planet.sugarlabs.org (mchua, 12:38:19)
    3. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet (mchua, 12:38:28)
    4. http://planet.fedoraproject.org (mchua, 12:38:31)
    5. Planet Sugar - http://planet.sugarlabs.org/ (ctyler, 12:40:25)
    6. Fedora Planet (ctyler, 12:51:12)
    7. http://planet.fedoraproject.org/ (ctyler, 12:51:21)
    8. talking about Groklaw and how it's changed from documenting the SCO trial to now being more of a "newsletter" for open source topics (ganderson, 12:54:03)
    9. http://planet.fedoraproject.org/ (ganderson, 12:56:43)

  3. Project updates (mchua, 13:05:33)
    1. Remix group has a package list, will be actually building image today (mchua, 13:07:04)
    2. Measure group has found bugs, made patches - walterbender beat them to a fix - found a bug in Walter's code, will be pushing their patches upstream today and getting help from upstream on some questions they have. Also learned interactive git rebasing! (mchua, 13:07:51)
    3. The remix folks are currently searching for documentation on how to make a remix (mchua, 13:22:43)
    4. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Measure (lmacken, 13:23:11)
    5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix (mchua, 13:24:38)
    6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Fedora_Live_CD (mchua, 13:24:46)
    7. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/f-73.html (RITSteve, 13:27:29)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Fedora_Live_CD (root_, 13:31:05)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Fedora_Live_CD (afmondra_, 13:32:51)
    10. Update from the Remix folks - we've mostly got through the instructions (they have also been improved) and have asked mether and gwerra questions in #fedora-devel, gotten help from jgreguske as well (mchua, 16:04:18)
    11. Remix problem: not enough disk space :) so we can try building the minimal .ks just to get an .iso out after lunch (mchua, 16:04:34)
    12. We'll also try to put in the rebranding and the bookmarks on that minimal .ks now that we know we can pull in the package list we want. (mchua, 16:06:31)

  4. Student project case studies (mchua, 18:33:00)
    1. Chris is now going to shift us into thinking about our own classes for the year. (mchua, 18:33:13)
    2. He's going to be going through examples of projects students have done. (mchua, 18:33:20)
    3. Chris is showing a paper he wrote about sustainable community student involvement in foss. (mchua, 18:35:35)
    4. http://chris.tylers.info/ols2008/ (mchua, 18:35:39)
    5. Sometimes, communities have had bad experiences with students in the past - they barge in, start something, then drop it on the ground and leave - unreliably - so it's important that your students do it right, and leave a good impression, and show that they know how to do things right the open source way. (mchua, 18:37:14)
    6. They found they needed to select 3 things to do this successfully: (1) a faculty member, (2) a FOSS community (mchua, 18:41:17)
    7. (3) Student projects - they need to be non-critical-path, yet things that people care about. "what are the things you would love to see done, but just don't have time to do?" (mchua, 18:44:34)
    8. Don't have to finish - need to get to a good "next starting point." (mchua, 18:49:04)
    9. Danger: if students go off on their own and think they know everything and come in at the end with a finished product, it may not be what the community wants/needs, so they may just reject it (even if it's perfectly good work, it's not what they needed) - so *do* involve them in community dialogue early on (mchua, 18:52:15)
    10. Critique from a professional programmer on your code is invaluable - FOSS can help your students get it. (mchua, 19:00:56)
    11. http://www.amazon.com/Conversation-Community-Social-Web-Documentation/dp/0982219113 (mchua, 19:23:24)
    12. http://github.com/jchris/appdrop but unmaintained )-: (paulproteus, 20:29:44)
    13. http://diydrones.com/profiles/blog/show?id=705844%3ABlogPost%3A44817 (Dave_S, 21:16:02)


Meeting ended at 12:34:01 UTC (full logs).

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