19:03:56 <mchua> #startmeeting
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19:04:06 <mchua> #meetingname POSSE weekly meeting
19:04:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'posse_weekly_meeting'
19:04:16 <mchua> #topic Current tasks
19:04:20 <mchua> #link http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_program_design#Tasks
19:04:33 <mchua> #info mchua is behind, but will be catching up shortly
19:05:11 <mchua> I am almost - almost! - out of my backlog! I hope to clear the rest of it tonight before a whole flurry of retreat-ish (for my team at RH) meetings start tomorrow morning.
19:05:19 <mchua> #topic Upcoming POSSEs
19:06:11 <mchua> #info POSSE China is coming up - the biggest issue is getting applications from attendees. iow, people plan on attending, but we don't know anything about them, so we can't approve them to attend.
19:06:55 <mchua> #info POSSE South Africa is looking very good, thanks to madeyeye's hard work - it has instructors (jwildeboer and myself) but lacks a tech guru. Anyone know a good South African Fedora hacker?
19:07:39 <mchua> #info POSSE Malaysia still needs instructors and a tech guru, but there's a general idea of how that might happen.
19:08:01 <mchua> #info mchua is worried about POSSE Philippines and EMEA not happening this fall because there hasn't been any news about it and the fall is coming close.
19:08:56 <mchua> #info Other POSSE ideas: beagleboard, Santa Cruz/California, Drupal, Olin, design, Arizona State, University of Kansas, Johns Hopkins, Scotland, Brazil, Plone, liberal arts.
19:09:34 <mchua> #topic POSSE program administration
19:11:15 <mchua> #info In terms of running POSSE, I'd love to have a professor (possibly with a course release) to work with on this in the spring - and make it a rotating thing, where a different professor gets a course release to coordinate coordinators of POSSE each year.
19:12:01 <mchua> #info I'd also like to have a conversation at some point this month with anyone who's interested in - or already involved with - doing research on the effectiveness of POSSE, formal or informal, because we need to get a better idea of how we're doing.
19:12:43 <mchua> #info Our trademark for POSSE is *still* in the works. Legal stuff takes a while, apparently. :)
19:12:49 <mchua> #topic POSSE infrastructure
19:13:40 <mchua> #info ctyler, quaid, ianweller, and I are hoping to get POSSE some more solid infrastructure with a more distributed sysadmin team. Help welcome! We target completion of the work by the end of the month, with everything ready to roll by mid-august when school starts again.
19:13:52 <mchua> #info ianweller and mchua are hacking on a POSSE registration app this week in Santa Cruz
19:14:10 <mchua> #info ganderson-afk is doing some neat explorations on setting up infrastructure *within* RIT
19:14:31 <micadeyeye> hi everyone
19:17:13 <mchua> Hello, micadeyeye!
19:17:28 <mchua> #topic POSSE curriculum
19:17:46 <mchua> #info quaid is revising the TOS textbook to be more useful as a reference to POSSE; we'll try this in China.
19:18:00 <micadeyeye> mchua: hi
19:18:03 <mchua> #info mchua needs to clear time to work through a bit of curriculum overhaul on-list
19:18:08 <mchua> #topic Open discussion
19:18:12 <micadeyeye> great.
19:18:12 <mchua> That's all I had from the agenda. :)
19:18:19 <mchua> micadeyeye: any questions/news about POSSE SA?
19:18:29 <mchua> I think that actually the only thing we're missing right now is a tech guru.
19:18:37 <micadeyeye> not really
19:18:39 <mchua> Do you know any Fedora hackers in the area that Jan and I could work with?
19:18:46 <mchua> I'll also ask on Planet Fedora.
19:18:53 <micadeyeye> I think we now have 5-8 participants.
19:19:03 <mchua> micadeyeye: wow, that's great!
19:19:18 <micadeyeye> take a look at the POSSE SA site.
19:19:25 <mchua> I'll have to ask you for their applications/bios at some point, I don't think I have that many in. :) But that's fantastic.
19:19:30 <mchua> I'm looking forward to this!
19:19:36 <micadeyeye> I will ask about the Fedora hacker.
19:20:11 <mchua> micadeyeye: re budget - we should be able to do it, I think. I'm going to sit down with Max this week and figure out exactly where our budget stands, but based on the numbers you gave me and Jan, I *think* we should be able to do this.
19:20:32 <micadeyeye> great.
19:20:37 <mchua> micadeyeye: Can you think of any places that might be able to do some supplementary funding - for instance, buying dinner for all the participants on Thursday night?
19:21:09 <micadeyeye> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_South_Africa
19:21:14 * mchua nods
19:21:55 <micadeyeye> I spoke to my dean about it, and he said the department could do that.
19:22:02 <mchua> Dinner on Thursday? Awesome!
19:22:34 <mchua> #info POSSE SA's Thursday dinner will be sponsored by the IT department of CPUT, our gracious hosts :)
19:22:48 <mchua> That way we'll only have to pay instructor expenses, which should be not so bad.
19:23:18 <micadeyeye> Sorry, what I told him about was the Sunday meeting.
19:23:26 <micadeyeye> But he would not mind, I think.
19:23:42 <micadeyeye> You should have an idea of what it will cost us.
19:24:25 * mchua nods
19:24:42 <mchua> micadeyeye: I was thinking, actually, of dropping Sunday dinner and just doing Thursday dinner, since that seems to be the better/more-fun one anyhow.
19:24:53 <mchua> And then people don't need to worry so much about coming on a weekend evening.
19:25:09 <mchua> And then that gives a bit more room to get food and drinks for Thursday and invite more locals. :)
19:25:41 <mchua> So it would just be dinner for instructors + participants + local FOSS community members (if there's a local LUG, perhaps a few people from there, etc) on Thursday night, if that's doable.
19:25:45 <mchua> micadeyeye: Thoughts?
19:26:13 <micadeyeye> I agree with you.
19:26:26 <mchua> Awesome. :)
19:26:28 <micadeyeye> We could cancel the Sunday gathering.
19:26:46 <mchua> micadeyeye: Any other questions? Otherwise I'll look for a tech guru, go over the budget with Max, and then... aside from getting attendees, I think we're actually set.
19:27:06 <mchua> We have a date and instructors and a project and so forth, so that's all good. :) Thanks for all your hard work putting the logistics of this together!
19:27:10 * mchua is excited.
19:27:20 <micadeyeye> No more questions.
19:27:28 <mchua> Ok, thanks micadeyeye!
19:27:34 <micadeyeye> I hope you guys like the hotel
19:27:35 <mchua> I think... that's it for the day, unless someone else has questions.
19:27:47 <micadeyeye> it's quite close to the venue.
19:27:49 <mchua> micadeyeye: I'm sure we will. :) Jan and I are used to staying pretty much any place, so we'll be thrilled with anything.
19:27:58 <mchua> Ooh, yay! Short commutes are great.
19:28:30 <micadeyeye> I am glad you like it.
19:29:19 <micadeyeye> okay.
19:29:44 <mchua> And... I think that's it for the day!
19:29:55 <micadeyeye> I will give you an update via the email.
19:29:58 <mchua> Thanks, everyone. Short check-in here, possibly a longer one after next week at OSCON when a bunch of us get together. :)
19:30:02 <mchua> micadeyeye: sounds great!
19:30:10 <micadeyeye> bye
19:30:13 <mchua> #endmeeting