19:03:56 #startmeeting 19:03:56 Meeting started Tue Jul 13 19:03:56 2010 UTC. The chair is mchua. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:03:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:04:06 #meetingname POSSE weekly meeting 19:04:06 The meeting name has been set to 'posse_weekly_meeting' 19:04:16 #topic Current tasks 19:04:20 #link http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_program_design#Tasks 19:04:33 #info mchua is behind, but will be catching up shortly 19:05:11 I am almost - almost! - out of my backlog! I hope to clear the rest of it tonight before a whole flurry of retreat-ish (for my team at RH) meetings start tomorrow morning. 19:05:19 #topic Upcoming POSSEs 19:06:11 #info POSSE China is coming up - the biggest issue is getting applications from attendees. iow, people plan on attending, but we don't know anything about them, so we can't approve them to attend. 19:06:55 #info POSSE South Africa is looking very good, thanks to madeyeye's hard work - it has instructors (jwildeboer and myself) but lacks a tech guru. Anyone know a good South African Fedora hacker? 19:07:39 #info POSSE Malaysia still needs instructors and a tech guru, but there's a general idea of how that might happen. 19:08:01 #info mchua is worried about POSSE Philippines and EMEA not happening this fall because there hasn't been any news about it and the fall is coming close. 19:08:56 #info Other POSSE ideas: beagleboard, Santa Cruz/California, Drupal, Olin, design, Arizona State, University of Kansas, Johns Hopkins, Scotland, Brazil, Plone, liberal arts. 19:09:34 #topic POSSE program administration 19:11:15 #info In terms of running POSSE, I'd love to have a professor (possibly with a course release) to work with on this in the spring - and make it a rotating thing, where a different professor gets a course release to coordinate coordinators of POSSE each year. 19:12:01 #info I'd also like to have a conversation at some point this month with anyone who's interested in - or already involved with - doing research on the effectiveness of POSSE, formal or informal, because we need to get a better idea of how we're doing. 19:12:43 #info Our trademark for POSSE is *still* in the works. Legal stuff takes a while, apparently. :) 19:12:49 #topic POSSE infrastructure 19:13:40 #info ctyler, quaid, ianweller, and I are hoping to get POSSE some more solid infrastructure with a more distributed sysadmin team. Help welcome! We target completion of the work by the end of the month, with everything ready to roll by mid-august when school starts again. 19:13:52 #info ianweller and mchua are hacking on a POSSE registration app this week in Santa Cruz 19:14:10 #info ganderson-afk is doing some neat explorations on setting up infrastructure *within* RIT 19:14:31 hi everyone 19:17:13 Hello, micadeyeye! 19:17:28 #topic POSSE curriculum 19:17:46 #info quaid is revising the TOS textbook to be more useful as a reference to POSSE; we'll try this in China. 19:18:00 mchua: hi 19:18:03 #info mchua needs to clear time to work through a bit of curriculum overhaul on-list 19:18:08 #topic Open discussion 19:18:12 great. 19:18:12 That's all I had from the agenda. :) 19:18:19 micadeyeye: any questions/news about POSSE SA? 19:18:29 I think that actually the only thing we're missing right now is a tech guru. 19:18:37 not really 19:18:39 Do you know any Fedora hackers in the area that Jan and I could work with? 19:18:46 I'll also ask on Planet Fedora. 19:18:53 I think we now have 5-8 participants. 19:19:03 micadeyeye: wow, that's great! 19:19:18 take a look at the POSSE SA site. 19:19:25 I'll have to ask you for their applications/bios at some point, I don't think I have that many in. :) But that's fantastic. 19:19:30 I'm looking forward to this! 19:19:36 I will ask about the Fedora hacker. 19:20:11 micadeyeye: re budget - we should be able to do it, I think. I'm going to sit down with Max this week and figure out exactly where our budget stands, but based on the numbers you gave me and Jan, I *think* we should be able to do this. 19:20:32 great. 19:20:37 micadeyeye: Can you think of any places that might be able to do some supplementary funding - for instance, buying dinner for all the participants on Thursday night? 19:21:09 http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_South_Africa 19:21:14 * mchua nods 19:21:55 I spoke to my dean about it, and he said the department could do that. 19:22:02 Dinner on Thursday? Awesome! 19:22:34 #info POSSE SA's Thursday dinner will be sponsored by the IT department of CPUT, our gracious hosts :) 19:22:48 That way we'll only have to pay instructor expenses, which should be not so bad. 19:23:18 Sorry, what I told him about was the Sunday meeting. 19:23:26 But he would not mind, I think. 19:23:42 You should have an idea of what it will cost us. 19:24:25 * mchua nods 19:24:42 micadeyeye: I was thinking, actually, of dropping Sunday dinner and just doing Thursday dinner, since that seems to be the better/more-fun one anyhow. 19:24:53 And then people don't need to worry so much about coming on a weekend evening. 19:25:09 And then that gives a bit more room to get food and drinks for Thursday and invite more locals. :) 19:25:41 So it would just be dinner for instructors + participants + local FOSS community members (if there's a local LUG, perhaps a few people from there, etc) on Thursday night, if that's doable. 19:25:45 micadeyeye: Thoughts? 19:26:13 I agree with you. 19:26:26 Awesome. :) 19:26:28 We could cancel the Sunday gathering. 19:26:46 micadeyeye: Any other questions? Otherwise I'll look for a tech guru, go over the budget with Max, and then... aside from getting attendees, I think we're actually set. 19:27:06 We have a date and instructors and a project and so forth, so that's all good. :) Thanks for all your hard work putting the logistics of this together! 19:27:10 * mchua is excited. 19:27:20 No more questions. 19:27:28 Ok, thanks micadeyeye! 19:27:34 I hope you guys like the hotel 19:27:35 I think... that's it for the day, unless someone else has questions. 19:27:47 it's quite close to the venue. 19:27:49 micadeyeye: I'm sure we will. :) Jan and I are used to staying pretty much any place, so we'll be thrilled with anything. 19:27:58 Ooh, yay! Short commutes are great. 19:28:30 I am glad you like it. 19:29:19 okay. 19:29:44 And... I think that's it for the day! 19:29:55 I will give you an update via the email. 19:29:58 Thanks, everyone. Short check-in here, possibly a longer one after next week at OSCON when a bunch of us get together. :) 19:30:02 micadeyeye: sounds great! 19:30:10 bye 19:30:13 #endmeeting