17:40:05 <mchua> #startmeeting
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17:40:10 <mchua> #chair rrix
17:40:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: mchua rrix
17:40:18 <mchua> #meetingname TOS course catalog / directory sprint
17:40:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'tos_course_catalog_/_directory_sprint'
17:40:35 <mchua> rrix: Wanna give folks a rundown of what we're doing today, for future generations of log-readers?
17:41:00 <rrix> hah, ok
17:41:28 <rrix> So... we're going to go through the list of POSSE alumni and give poor little rrix an overview of who he'll be working with
17:41:43 <rrix> and working on the faculty directory
17:44:26 <rrix> Sound about right, mchua ?
17:46:19 * mchua noddeth
17:46:23 <mchua> Aaaaaaalll righty.
17:46:27 <mchua> rrix: You had ze templates?
17:46:32 <rrix> W00teth ;0
17:46:33 <rrix> :)
17:46:37 <rrix> Yes, one moment
17:46:40 * rrix is in a livecd :<
17:47:28 <mchua> Ouch.
17:47:31 <mchua> What happened?
17:47:32 * rrix tries to remember his login
17:47:43 <rrix> mchua: long drawn out story, will tell the tale laters :)
17:47:48 <mchua> Okay.
17:48:02 <mchua> #link http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Alumni
17:48:13 <rrix> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Rrix/Faculty_Directory
17:48:17 <rrix> Er
17:48:19 <rrix> #link http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Rrix/Faculty_Directory
17:50:16 <mchua> whee!
17:50:23 * mchua reordering this to make a bit more sense, one moment
17:50:42 <mchua> So, goal of faculty directory and course catalog: to give people an idea of what's going on at TOS every (north american) semester
17:50:56 <mchua> so that we can get a glimpse of what activity is happening and where people can tap in and support it.
17:51:06 <mchua> sort of a "in case you're not keeping track day to day, here is where to look" thing.
17:51:12 <rrix> north american... are we just spotlighting the NA folks then?
17:51:48 <mchua> No, we're just going by the NA calendar.
17:51:56 <mchua> Which seems to map to the EMEA calendar pretty well.
17:51:59 <mchua> But not the APAC or LATAM one.
17:52:26 <mchua> Once we start getting more people from there we'll figure out how to work the school calendars to make sense, but right now this sort of annual/semester cycle seems to work for me...
17:52:33 <mchua> (feel free to push back, though - that's mostly  me being lazy :)
17:52:35 <rrix> Okay
17:52:46 <rrix> Makes sense to me :)
17:53:24 * rrix is going down the list adding non-linked names and titles to the directory
17:53:41 <rrix> some of these are a mite too long
17:54:54 <mchua> Yeah... skip APAC and RIT for now.
17:55:02 <mchua> Let's concentrate on 2009 and Worcester first, because we should hit everyone there.
17:55:09 <rrix> Iiih
17:55:14 <rrix> oooh**
17:55:16 <mchua> RIT has a smattering of students and people who didn't finish the week, and APAC only had a few finish out.
17:55:22 <mchua> So let's start with 2009 and go from there.
17:55:26 <rrix> Okiedoke
17:55:26 <mchua> That's small and manageable.
17:55:28 * rrix reverts
17:56:28 * rrix ponders how to script this >:)
17:56:40 <rrix> ianweller: does that mw thingy of yours still work? :)
17:59:57 <rrix> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Rrix/Faculty_Directory okay
18:00:15 <rrix> Do we want to break that list up by which posse they graduated?
18:02:10 <mchua> rrix: I think we want to have the POSSE graduation year be listed, and have the wikitable be sortable.
18:02:13 <mchua> That's easy to do later, though.
18:02:16 <mchua> Let's get the info out there first.
18:02:44 <rrix> Yeah, I'll have to refresh on how to do cool-sorty-table stuff :)
18:02:55 <mchua> Let's go through this professor by professor, and then when we hit a prof doing a class this term, add that to the course catalog.
18:03:31 <mchua> By the end of our sprint today, I'd like to have the faculty directory broken down into chunks, so you'll have a group of faculty to contact each week, until we've gotten in touch with all of them (sometime this term).
18:03:40 <mchua> Starting with the ones we know are teaching something this semester.
18:03:44 <mchua> Does that make sense?
18:04:01 * rrix nodnod
18:04:22 <mchua> Coolness.
18:04:38 <mchua> Also, we may want to separate the directory + course catalog, but...
18:04:41 <mchua> Let's start now and see where we're at.
18:04:51 * mchua makes a little table edit
18:05:00 <rrix> Yeah, I was thinking that too, and just hotlink to the anchors between them, or something *shrug*
18:05:18 <mchua> refresh, just edited.
18:05:19 <rrix> seems unmanageable to have it all on one page
18:05:19 * mchua nods
18:05:25 <mchua> Yeah, I think links == teh goodness.
18:05:33 <mchua> A little maintenance, but... we have small enough numbers that it'll be okay.
18:05:36 <mchua> Right now.
18:05:43 <mchua> If our numbers swell to need a dedicated app, that's a good problem to have. :)
18:05:50 * rrix nods :)
18:06:07 <mchua> So! The list!
18:06:17 <mchua> Just going down here...
18:06:17 <rrix> ThEE LISTTT
18:06:23 <mchua> #topic Cam Seay
18:06:30 <mchua> #info NC Central University (NCCU)
18:06:46 <mchua> ...actually, these should link - their names should go to their user pages
18:06:50 <mchua> if they don't have one, we should make one for them :)
18:06:58 <rrix> Okay; I didn't know if they had user pages :)
18:07:03 <mchua> but part of POSSE is making your TOS user page, so they should theoretically all have one somewhere.
18:07:11 <mchua> Let's hunt everything down for Cam so you'll know what a sample looks like.
18:07:21 <mchua> Actually, let's hunt everything down for Cam... and then Matt, so you have two examples.
18:07:35 <mchua> One of a dormant prof we need to get back in touch with, one of a very active one we should be keeping better track of. :)
18:07:43 <mchua> So, Cam!
18:07:46 * mchua hunts for wiki user page
18:07:48 <rrix> :)
18:08:17 <mchua> #link http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Cseay
18:08:22 <mchua> rrix: I'll hunt for links, you wiki-edit?
18:08:42 <mchua> (that's cam's userpage, we'll fill in details right on his userpage, but first...)
18:08:52 <rrix> Sounds good
18:08:58 <mchua> #link http://www.nccu.edu/
18:09:01 <mchua> for the school link
18:09:15 <mchua> and
18:09:19 <mchua> #link http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_2009
18:09:22 <mchua> for the POSSE
18:09:28 <mchua> and for classes currently teaching - none.
18:09:56 * rrix nods
18:10:25 <mchua> So that does it for Cam's faculty entry in the directory... now we should fill in some info on his userpage.
18:10:54 <mchua> I'd like to, somehow, note (and link to) on his user page that he's a POSSE 2009 alumni, and that he teaches at <link>nccu</link>.
18:11:26 <mchua> And that as far as we know, he's not running any TOS classes this term.
18:11:55 <mchua> Something like that. I wonder if categories would be good for POSSE alumni classes ([[Category:POSSE Alumni]] [[Category:POSSE 2009 Alumni]]) (er... whatever makes sense to you)
18:12:16 * rrix <3 categories
18:12:42 <mchua> (semantic mediawiki would make this a fair bit easier, but eh)
18:13:00 <rrix> True
18:13:11 <mchua> Right, so that's about all we know about Dr. Seay (who is a really cool guy) - so the starting point for getting in touch with him would be
18:13:22 <rrix> Okay :)
18:13:52 <mchua> "hey, getting in touch with POSSE alumni... noticed you didn't have any courses listed, are we missing any? would you like to teach open source participation this or next term and is there something we could do to help you with that?"
18:13:56 <mchua> something of the sort...
18:14:06 <mchua> basically, "updating the faculty directory" == good excuse to get in touch :)
18:14:17 * rrix nods :)
18:14:19 <rrix> hehehe
18:14:33 * rrix will put a draft of that email somewhere as soon as he cleans up this page.
18:15:17 <mchua> Okeydokey.
18:15:35 <mchua> You write more eloquently than I do. :)
18:15:46 <rrix> Do you think it's better to simply add him to [[Category:POSSE 2009 Alumni]], link to [[POSSE 2009]] from his page, or both?
18:17:48 <mchua> ...yes.
18:17:58 <rrix> :D
18:18:12 <rrix> It *almost* seems redundant, but idk
18:19:13 <mchua> Yeah... well, if a categorization system is useful, it'll live, if not, we'll end up not using it.
18:19:18 <mchua> so if it takes another 2 sec to do, why not?
18:19:33 * rrix is glad he set up a webmail on his server
18:20:45 * mchua is puzzled
18:21:34 <rrix> hm?
18:22:05 <mchua> (re: webmail)
18:22:14 <rrix> oh; I don't have kmail running in this live image :P
18:22:27 <rrix> (completely random, ot-ness :) )
18:22:33 <mchua> oh! okay.
18:23:57 * rrix is draftifying
18:24:50 * mchua nods
18:25:04 <mchua> So, the second entry - Matt Jadud - will be much the same.
18:25:09 <mchua> Allegheny College's website is easy to find. :)
18:25:27 <mchua> Matt's teaching will be also easy to find: http://www.rockalypse.org/teaching
18:25:35 <mchua> and his username is either jadudm or mjadud on the TOS wiki.
18:25:48 <mchua> That should give you some data for a "full" / active faculty webpage. :)
18:25:54 <mchua> Also note that he has a grant linked-to in [[Budget]].
18:26:01 * mchua is firehosing poor rrix with data right now :)
18:26:09 <rrix> I can handle it :)
18:26:20 <mchua> so see how you want to put that into an entry for Matt, and we'll have two contrasting faculty directory entries we can use as templates for the rest.
18:26:28 <mchua> One super-active, one "we need to find this person again!"
18:27:12 <rrix> :)
18:27:16 * mchua drops back for a few minutes while you tinker
18:27:17 <mchua> (brb)
18:27:32 <rrix> ok, lemme dump this mail to a wiki page
18:28:01 <rrix> Why do I always lower-case the O in TOS? o.O
18:28:15 <rrix> weird.
18:30:57 <rrix> mchua: plz4thoughts -> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Rrix/TouchbaseMail
18:31:03 * rrix opens matt's page
18:35:55 <ianweller> rrix: afaik mw still works
18:35:59 <ianweller> rrix: it's not very functional though
18:38:18 * rrix nod
18:41:09 <rrix> mchua: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Rrix/Faculty_Directory <-- How does that look? two links, one to his User page classes description (I could transcribe that?) and one to the full page
18:41:25 * rrix plays with how eevil a transcription would look
18:42:37 <rrix> hurgh, stupid mediawiki... that won't work
18:43:06 <rrix> silly thing transcribed his entire page, not jsut that section
18:46:45 * rrix gives up
18:52:29 <rrix> mchua: I can't find a wiki page for Kent Palmer
18:52:44 <rrix> Oh, I'm duuuuurm
18:52:55 <rrix> Found it
18:53:43 <rrix> woot, his wingate page 404's
19:11:54 <rrix> huh
19:14:56 * rrix goes to nap for a little while
19:34:31 <kevix> i found this floss education system called 'dotlrn'. dont know if that would be something for you guy to look into.
20:35:34 * mchua reads up
20:35:44 <mchua> rrix: Sorry about that - got pulled afk. I will send you notes!
20:35:49 <mchua> (looking like a good start so far)
20:35:51 <mchua> #endmeeting