=========================== #teachingopensource Meeting =========================== Meeting started by mchua at 11:12:46 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teachingopensource/2010-10-04/teachingopensource.2010-10-04-11.12.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * IRC/wiki lab exercise (mchua, 11:13:02) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_South_Africa#Monday_deliverables (mchua, 11:13:04) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Jadudm (mchua, 11:13:55) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Jwildeboer (mchua, 11:14:40) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Kpalmer (mchua, 11:14:54) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Fardad (mchua, 11:14:59) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Kwurst (mchua, 11:15:05) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php?title=User:Kpalmer&action=edit (mchua, 11:19:06) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Mchua (mchua, 11:22:56) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mchua (mchua, 11:23:01) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=FAmSCo_report_2010-07&diff=prev&oldid=192055 (mchua, 11:23:22) * You can look at an individual's contributions, as well as what one of their edits did. (mchua, 11:23:49) * You can also look at the history of an individual page. (mchua, 11:24:05) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=FAmSCo_report_2010-07&action=history (mchua, 11:24:12) * LINK: http://http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Gruntus (gruntus, 11:25:43) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/User:Michaelgraaf (michaelgraaf, 11:32:26) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php?title=User:Boniface (boniface, 11:32:51) * LINK: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting (mchua, 11:49:07) * LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page (mchua, 11:49:13) * LINK: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDOC/Cheatsheet (mchua, 11:49:27) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Mchua (mchua, 11:55:34) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mchua (mchua, 11:55:53) * LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette (jwildeboer, 12:07:54) * LINK: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 (jwildeboer, 12:08:03) * Asynchronous and synchronous communication tools are *both* important. (mchua, 12:17:11) * Don't top-post - start your reply *under* the email you're quoting, not above. (mchua, 12:19:09) * LINK: http://planet.fedoraproject.org (mchua, 12:22:50) * LINK: http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/~chris.tyler/planet/ (mchua, 12:23:15) * LINK: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet (mchua, 12:23:26) * LINK: http://www.planetplanet.org/ (jwildeboer, 12:24:24) * Hackergotchis are pictures of people who post on a Planet, so people can put faces to names. (mchua, 12:25:41) * If you want a hackergotchi, email Pierros your picture. (mchua, 12:25:58) * search strategies (mchua, 12:31:09) * Google is your friend. (mchua, 12:31:14) * Look at mailing list archives, meeting (IRC) logs, wiki pages for a project. (mchua, 12:31:28) * When you ask people for further info, point them to the things you've already found and tell them what you've already looked at. (mchua, 12:31:54) * Oftentimes, asking "where should I ask this question?" will point you to the right place. (mchua, 12:32:13) * Asking in the right place is just as important as asking the right question! (mchua, 12:32:58) * Mission (mchua, 12:33:03) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview (mchua, 12:33:07) * "The mission is the community." (mchua, 12:33:16) * Communities of Practice - people coming together because they work on/towards the same, or similar, things. (mchua, 12:33:37) * Anatomy of a FOSS project (mchua, 12:38:04) * this means 2 things - first, what's the governance model? (mchua, 12:38:10) * second, how's the actual artifact structured? (mchua, 12:38:17) * asking good questions (mchua, 12:41:24) * * What doesn't work? (mchua, 12:41:57) * * What do you want to happen? (mchua, 12:42:01) * * Prove to me that it doesn't work. (mchua, 12:42:11) * * What have you tried so far and what has happened? (mchua, 12:42:25) * Feedback round (mchua, 12:45:27) * Answer 2 questions: (mchua, 12:45:32) * * Are we going in the right direction? (mchua, 12:45:37) * * Is it different from what you expected? (mchua, 12:45:44) * Jan: Yes, we're going in the right direction. This is chaotic, and it will get worse, but I think we're going to have a good time together. (mchua, 12:46:08) * Pierros: Yes, we're going in the right direction. I was prepared to deal with crazy things this week, watch people learning how to learn. (mchua, 12:47:04) * Michael A: I think we're on the right track, We got exposed to tools we can use later on, while teaching. Are we getting productively lost? Oh yeah. (mchua, 12:48:10) * Boniface: We're going in the right direction. It's surprising how many ways you can use these tools to interact with students, i'm used to lecturing. (mchua, 12:48:59) * Michael G: We're in the right direction, At the abstract level this is what I expected, but the details are unexpected. (mchua, 12:49:58) * Grant: Laziness - I will say what everyone else did! Steep learning curve. (mchua, 12:52:42) * closing (mchua, 12:59:10) * We'll be on this IRC channel tonight, feel free to come back and ask questions. (mchua, 12:59:40) * Please email your first blog posts to the mailing list. (mchua, 12:59:57) Meeting ended at 13:00:18 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mchua (112) * liknus (38) * jwildeboer (20) * micadeyeye (11) * gruntus (6) * boniface (4) * michaelgraaf (4) * zodbot (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot