#teachingopensource Meeting
Meeting started by mchua at 00:02:29 UTC
(full logs).
Meeting summary
- Getting started (mchua, 00:02:49)
- introductions (mchua, 00:10:40)
- Lots of people have used FOSS, and had their
students use FOSS in classes, but very few have gotten students to
contribute. (mchua,
00:13:50)
- http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/SIGCSE_2012/Workshop_materials
(mchua,
00:15:01)
- http://openetherpad.org/TOSworkshop2012
(kwurst,
00:15:26)
- The average FOSS project has 1
contributor. (mchua,
00:17:58)
- What is FOSS and TOS (kwurst, 00:18:11)
- 50% of FOSS contributions are by employees paid
to do it. (mchua,
00:18:15)
- FOSS Fieldtrip (kwurst, 00:23:35)
- ohloh.net (kwurst,
00:25:47)
- http://ohloh.net (kwurst,
00:26:04)
- http://sourceforge.net (kwurst,
00:26:35)
- "Decreasing year-over-year activity" may not be
a warning sign - it may just mean that the project is becoming
stable. (kwurst,
00:34:21)
- Ohloh will let you compare (up to) 3 projects
to each other (kwurst,
00:41:02)
- "updated about x hours ago" means the Ohloh
data, project commmits (kwurst,
00:42:00)
- "updated about x hours ago" means the Ohloh
data, *not* project commits (kwurst,
00:43:24)
- You need to hit enter after each project name
you put into the Ohloh project comparison (kwurst,
00:45:24)
- Mel's recommendation: choose a large project
(not a small one) for your first community. (mchua,
00:56:02)
- http://openetherpad.org/TOSworkshop2012
(mchua,
00:56:24)
- http://lists.teachingopensource.org/pipermail/tos/
(mchua,
00:57:20)
- IDEA: Use IRC for
"office hours" (mchua,
00:58:48)
- http://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Zodbot&oldid=262493
(mchua,
00:59:34)
- You can use bots on IRC to help you keep track
of meeting notes (the above link is an example with
documentation) (mchua,
00:59:51)
- IDEA: IRC logs of open
source project meetings provide good artifacts for class discussion
of professional behavior (mchua,
01:04:03)
- "Why use this old-fashioned 80's technology?"
Because that's where everyone is, *and* low-bandwidth internet
connections in some parts of the world means it's the only one
that's equally accessible by all. (mchua,
01:04:42)
- "IRC is the water cooler -- it's where people
who know things hang out." (mchua,
01:04:55)
- Some projects have their version control
systems automatically make announcements into an IRC channel.
(mchua,
01:05:21)
- Holding office hours on IRC means students can
also see and answer each other's questions. (mchua,
01:05:35)
- Etherpad is a brower-based collaborative text
editor. (mchua,
01:07:18)
- people have etherpad instances hosted that you
can try (mchua,
01:08:14)
- http://openetherpad.org
(mchua,
01:08:17)
- break (kwurst, 01:27:34)
- FOSS culture principles step-back (kwurst, 01:30:56)
- ACTION: Take photos
of the walls and post them on the wiki (kwurst,
01:32:20)
- In FOSS, the feature set is continually being
developed. (heidie,
01:36:43)
- A release involves first making a set of
features happen and then deciding which features in that set should
be included in the release. (heidie,
01:37:14)
- http://quaid.fedorapeople.org/TOS/Practical_Open_Source_Software_Exploration/html/sn-Introduction_to_Free_and_Open_Source_Software-Climbing_Contributor_Mountain.html
(kwurst,
01:46:43)
- http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Textbook
(kwurst,
01:48:28)
- Course examples (Greg, Heidi, Karl, and Sebastian - Mel leads backchannel notes) (kwurst, 01:58:28)
- http://www.xcitegroup.org/softhum/doku.php?id=f:assignments
Beginning activities, some of which are useful for students with no
background in computing (heidie,
02:13:24)
- lurking is a great way to start learning -- see
how your students understand what they're observing (mchua,
02:13:52)
- http://www.xcitegroup.org/softhum/doku.php?id=g:getting_started
Getting started... (heidie,
02:15:17)
- opensouce.com (kwurst,
02:15:55)
- http://www.xcitegroup.org/softhum/doku.php?id=s:initialconversation
Actual student conversation getting started in a project. (heidie,
02:16:00)
- http://sububi.org/2009/07/27/the-busy-students-guide-to-project-blogging/
(mchua,
02:16:22)
- Do community first, code second. (mchua,
02:19:22)
- core developers are usually too busy to fix the
tiny easy bugs -- which means they're left undone for students to do
(and get great gratitude for!) (mchua,
02:21:20)
- Course workshopping (individual instructors lead small groups) (kwurst, 02:21:35)
- wrap-up (kwurst, 02:54:04)
- http://teachingopensource.org
(kwurst,
02:55:23)
- :
http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TeachingOpenSource_Mailing_List/Join
(kwurst,
02:56:38)
- ACTION: Post these
minutes to the wiki (kwurst,
02:57:50)
- ACTION: Email the
minutes links to the attendees (kwurst,
02:58:12)
- ACTION: Email the
wiki link to the attendees (kwurst,
02:58:25)
- ACTION: Organizers
will update the wiki page with more resources (kwurst,
02:59:13)
Meeting ended at 03:00:11 UTC
(full logs).
Action items
- Take photos of the walls and post them on the wiki
- Post these minutes to the wiki
- Email the minutes links to the attendees
- Email the wiki link to the attendees
- Organizers will update the wiki page with more resources
People present (lines said)
- mchua (72)
- kwurst (53)
- heidie (17)
- heidinow (7)
- zodbot (4)
- kis (3)
- sdziallas (3)
- ianweller (2)
- Joe____ (1)
- mpurcell (1)
- JBB_ (1)
- ghislop (0)
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