14:01:36 <sayan> #startmeeting #fedora-hubs 14:01:36 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Sep 20 14:01:36 2016 UTC. The chair is sayan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:36 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to '#fedora-hubs' 14:01:39 <stickster> sayan: jcline is also joining, talked to him earlier 14:01:41 <abompard> .hello abompard 14:01:42 <zodbot> abompard: abompard 'Aurelien Bompard' <aurelien@bompard.org> 14:01:47 <sayan> jcline: welcome :) 14:01:47 <stickster> .hello pfrields 14:01:48 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 14:01:51 <sayan> .hello sayanchowdhury 14:01:53 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com> 14:01:55 <a2batic> .hello a2batic 14:01:56 <zodbot> a2batic: a2batic 'Kanika Murarka' <kmurarka@redhat.com> 14:02:00 <jcline> .hello jcline 14:02:02 <zodbot> jcline: jcline 'Jeremy Cline' <jeremy@jcline.org> 14:02:15 <devyani7> .hello devyani7 14:02:15 <zodbot> devyani7: devyani7 'Devyani Kota' <devyanikota@gmail.com> 14:02:22 <mizmo> .hello duffy 14:02:23 <zodbot> mizmo: duffy 'Máirín Duffy' <fedora@linuxgrrl.com> 14:03:16 <sayan> #topic Weekly updates 14:03:30 <sayan> a2batic: want to go first? 14:03:50 <a2batic> sayan, yes 14:04:15 <a2batic> I am pushing the final code for PR#255 14:05:08 <a2batic> sayan, you can suggest me if there are any other issues 14:05:16 <a2batic> <eom> 14:05:20 <sayan> a2batic: no, rest looks fine to me 14:05:42 <sayan> This PR would integrate the Plus Plus service with Hubs 14:05:56 <sayan> and close all the current PRs 14:06:04 <sayan> devyani7: want to go next? 14:06:07 <devyani7> a2batic++ :) 14:06:10 <devyani7> sayan: sure 14:06:22 <stickster> sayan: When you say it would close all the current PRs, do you mean all the PRs about plusplus? 14:06:25 <stickster> like https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/57 14:06:34 <sayan> stickster: yes 14:06:39 <stickster> Oh! 14:06:46 <sayan> stickster: and the one open for contact widget also 14:07:05 <sayan> stickster: the widget a2batic is working on integrates plus-plus and the contact widget 14:07:36 <sayan> so that means all the 3 PRs will be closed https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/pull-requests 14:07:38 <abompard> a2batic++ 14:07:38 <zodbot> abompard: Karma for a2batic changed to 8 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:07:42 <stickster> abompard: we were talking about issues yesterday... looks like you'll be free to pick up something else off the high-priority list 14:07:57 <stickster> sayan: if you have ideas for that ^^ let us know 14:07:59 <abompard> stickster: yep: 14:08:02 <abompard> :-) 14:08:05 <a2batic> :) 14:08:18 <fedmsg-hubs> pagure.pull-request.comment.added -- a2batic commented on pull-request#255 of project "fedora-hubs" https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/pull-request/255#comment-10075 14:08:46 <devyani7> so, I was facing a CSS issue, even after doing a fresh install. And, 14:08:50 <sayan> abompard: mizmo: I think maybe abompard can start working on the meeting widgets https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting 14:09:06 <devyani7> I needed the screenshots for the commblog post. 14:09:42 <devyani7> Anyway, I figured out that if the user isn't logged it, the bookmarks bar doesn't show. so... 14:09:45 <sayan> There are quite some of them to be implemented so maybe jcline and abompard can pick issues from there 14:10:02 <devyani7> that is how I got the user hub pages from there. 14:10:06 <mizmo> sayan, cool sounds like a good idea 14:10:19 <devyani7> ok, sorry, I thought it got over :) 14:10:28 <mizmo> abompard, jcline - i did most of those mockups so if any confusions come up or if you just want a run through lemme know 14:10:33 <sayan> devyani7: no issues, we are listening 14:10:51 <abompard> mizmo: thanks. jcline: let's synchronize after the meeting 14:10:56 <jcline> Cool, sounds good 14:11:10 <sayan> mizmo: maybe you can have a look at the meeting tickets needmockup tag? 14:11:10 <stickster> Oooh, nice! 14:11:33 <sayan> devyani7: so I was not able to replicate the issue which you were facing 14:11:54 <devyani7> sayan: a2batic was facing the same as well 14:11:55 <sayan> but then I was able to replicate after going to the pixel range I specified over email 14:12:03 <devyani7> nod nod 14:12:24 * a2batic is also facing the issue 14:12:31 <devyani7> saw that, so do you know how we can fix that? 14:12:42 <devyani7> sayan^^^ 14:13:00 <sayan> mizmo: The issue is because the bookmark is not on the same level 14:13:18 <sayan> mizmo: maybe we need to change the layout of the page 14:13:28 <mizmo> sayan, ok for meetings ill look at 26, 24, 91 14:13:38 <mizmo> #action mizmo to work on #26, #24, #91 14:13:53 <mizmo> sayan, yeh it's just the html on that one has to be updated to match the others to support the bar 14:14:02 <mizmo> sayan, ill make a bug for it and assign to myself, im sure ill be able to figure it out and fix 14:14:11 <mizmo> devyani7, you didnt make an issue/bug for it yet did you? 14:14:20 <devyani7> ok, mizmo fixes that ,cool :) 14:14:31 <devyani7> mizmo: nope. I didn't 14:14:47 <sayan> mizmo: yeah, I have thought of an solution as in to get in the same container and then position the bookmark bar using the position 14:15:07 <sayan> s/get in/get in the bookmarks bar/ 14:15:46 <sayan> we can use position: relative and adjust the top, left, right, bottom :) 14:16:02 <sayan> devyani7: do you want to pick up any other issue by that time? 14:16:30 <mizmo> sayan, it's working on group pages, just not on person pages, so i can just emulate the group page structure on person pages 14:16:30 <devyani7> sayan: this weekend I had a diversity call to help new contributors, 14:16:40 <devyani7> so didn't get much time to work on... 14:16:45 <sayan> devyani7: ok 14:16:48 <devyani7> the bookmarks issue 14:16:59 <sayan> mizmo: ok 14:17:00 <devyani7> guess, will work on that issue itself ! 14:17:06 <devyani7> Apart from that, I also have a fedora-magazine blog post lined up that is going to deal with an Introduction to hubs. 14:17:16 <sayan> mizmo: do you want to go next? 14:17:20 * devyani7 thinks she is not managing time properly :( 14:17:26 <devyani7> </update> 14:19:19 <sayan> Let me go ahead an update my status 14:19:31 <mizmo> (sorry, trying to make that bug) 14:19:38 <stickster> devyani7: do tell! 14:19:44 <sayan> mizmo: no issues, do you to go ahead? 14:19:54 <mizmo> sure 14:20:05 <fedmsg-hubs> pagure.issue.new -- duffy opened a new ticket fedora-hubs#256: "Vertical bookmarks bar covers up avatars on personal pages" https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/256 14:20:13 <mizmo> so i finished off the two tickets that have been on my plate for the past 2 meetings 14:20:15 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/98 14:20:24 <mizmo> this is the help widget 14:20:44 <mizmo> added a couple of views too, modal 'full' views 14:20:47 <devyani7> stickster: :) 14:20:54 <mizmo> which should probably be patternized 14:21:00 <mizmo> and 14:21:01 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/63 14:21:06 <mizmo> this is the release cycle status widget 14:21:37 <mizmo> there's two variations - one that gives the status of the current in-development release, the other gives an overall view of currently active fedora releases (and recently inactive) and their statuses 14:22:03 <mizmo> any feedback you folks have on these greatly appreciated 14:22:20 <sayan> oops! I forgot to update the comment there 14:22:41 * devyani7 checking 14:22:46 <devyani7> :P 14:22:48 <sayan> mizmo: I find the first mockup more informative 14:22:49 <mizmo> #action mizmo to work on #256 (vertical bookmarks bar covering stuff up) 14:22:58 <mizmo> sayan, for 63? 14:23:07 <sayan> mizmo: yes 14:23:10 <mizmo> sayan, the original reporter asked for statuses across fedora releases which is why i made that one 14:23:17 <mizmo> they're really two separate widgets, not two options 14:23:26 <fedmsg-hubs> pagure.issue.edit -- duffy edited the priority fields of ticket fedora-hubs#256 https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/256 14:23:28 <sayan> oh 14:23:29 <fedmsg-hubs> pagure.issue.edit -- duffy edited the milestone fields of ticket fedora-hubs#256 https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/256 14:23:59 <mizmo> i think probaly the first one would be more interesting to a developer/packager and the second one more interesting to someone less technical 14:24:27 <mizmo> but, i agree the first in hubs context is more useful / should be higher priority 14:24:38 <mizmo> eg if we had to pick one, that one for sure 14:24:41 <mizmo> want me to note tha tin the ticket? 14:24:56 <sayan> Since the information in both the widgets are more or less the same 14:25:17 <mizmo> sayan, the first one only shows one release; the second shows multiple releases - i dont consider that the same 14:25:56 <sayan> mizmo: sorry :( 14:26:01 <mizmo> eg the kinds of questions the second one answers, "is my release still supported?" "should i wait to upgrade or is my release going to be unsupported soon?" "how long do i have to wait for $NEWRELEASE to GA for planning when to upgrade" 14:26:04 <sayan> In that case It makes sense 14:26:31 <sayan> mizmo: yes, right 14:26:34 <mizmo> whereas the first one answers questions like, "when do i need to get my code checked in by?" "how long do i have to get the newest wallpaper packaged" eg 14:26:36 <mizmo> okay cool 14:27:00 <mizmo> how about the halp one? any thoughts? 14:27:00 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/98 14:27:21 <mizmo> im not super happy with the form on the last one 14:27:44 <mizmo> but i like the idea of using a 'header' in the modal to have controls 14:27:47 <sayan> mizmo: actually looked good to me 14:27:52 <mizmo> okay cool! 14:28:50 <sayan> I was actually planning if abompard could work on this one 14:29:37 <sayan> This is also of high priority 14:29:53 <mizmo> yep halp is for comm ops which is one of our goals 14:29:54 <abompard> Sure can. 14:29:59 <mizmo> \o/ 14:30:04 <sayan> cool 14:30:05 <stickster> Wow, I love this widget design 14:30:08 <mizmo> i dont have anything else, top on my list next is #256 14:30:16 <stickster> sorry, took me a minute to find and read thru 14:30:19 <mizmo> and the other three meeting related needsmockup ones 14:30:22 <mizmo> stickster, glad you like it :) 14:30:37 <stickster> abompard: ^^ this looks like a cool one to work on, and is in fact one of the *most important* reasons to have Hubs to begin with 14:30:37 <mizmo> its built on the work radhika did 14:30:51 <abompard> stickster: 100% agreed 14:30:53 <stickster> linking contributor <--> opportunity 14:31:02 <sayan> stickster: right 14:31:18 <mizmo> abompard, one thing to know about this design - 14:31:32 <mizmo> abompard, we were originally thinking you could 'dismiss' help opportunities once they were 'claimed' 14:31:43 <mizmo> but we thought that would be a lot of overhead and a lot of busy work ppl wouldn't tend to do 14:32:01 <mizmo> so the idea is that it always shows the most recent things at the top - and as a request gets old it just sorts of scrolls off 14:32:20 <mizmo> the idea being you really want to help with things people want help with *right now* and wouldn't really ever want to dig through super old archives bc the needs have likely changed etc 14:32:35 <abompard> very agile ;-) 14:32:36 <mizmo> so it pushes people to talk to the help requestor and work it out 14:32:49 <mizmo> and the thought is if an old request never got answered, someone would ask fo rhelp again 14:33:11 <abompard> mizmo: okay, thanks 14:33:12 <mizmo> *in practice* that may not work out so great so we may need to put in some kind of thing where the person who's listed as owning a request can log in and delete it 14:33:23 <mizmo> eg 'omg i answered 6 ppl about helping me frobble my fribs today' 14:33:29 <mizmo> 'make it stop' 14:33:30 <mizmo> :) 14:33:42 <mizmo> ill copy pasta this into the ticket for ref 14:33:48 <abompard> thanks! 14:34:07 <abompard> I was gonna copy it to a text file here ;-) 14:34:52 <sayan> abompard: great 14:34:53 <mizmo> great minds think alike :) done 14:34:54 <fedmsg-hubs> pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket fedora-hubs#98: "#halp/help widget: Default in the CommOps Hub" https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/98#comment-6329 14:34:59 <fedmsg-hubs> pagure.issue.edit -- duffy edited the milestone fields of ticket fedora-hubs#98 https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/98 14:35:01 <mizmo> /me status done 14:35:06 <sayan> mizmo: thanks 14:35:16 <sayan> I am going over with my update 14:35:31 <sayan> I worked on the waartaa login page, but facing some issues with the CSS 14:35:54 <sayan> mizmo: the mockup has the social login buttons but I don't know the classes to use to get that 14:36:31 * mizmo looks 14:36:54 <sayan> https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/799683/17908871/24609fee-6950-11e6-8596-8a6f68e38e2c.png 14:36:58 <sayan> This is the mockup 14:36:59 <mizmo> so the icons except for the fedora one are font awesome 14:37:25 <sayan> okay 14:37:38 * mizmo trying to find the button class 14:37:50 <sayan> yes the button class to get those square boxes 14:38:15 <sayan> s/square/rectangle/ :p 14:38:19 * mizmo shakes fist at bootstraps docs 14:38:32 <mizmo> dont wait on me, ill find it lol 14:38:51 <sayan> Ok 14:38:57 <sayan> I could find the classes actually 14:39:14 <sayan> mizmo: Also what happens if the user already has an account 14:39:33 <sayan> should we show a "Already have an account" link 14:39:45 <sayan> and clicking on it changes the right form to login? 14:39:59 <mizmo> sayan, so for that - i wasn't sure if there were waartaa specific accts or if they were linked to social media accts during the account creation process 14:40:45 <sayan> mizmo: there can be waartaa specific accounts 14:40:48 <mizmo> sayan, ahh ok 14:41:07 <mizmo> so normally having a link like that would make sense, except, we already have a 'use existing account' area so it could be confusing 14:41:09 <sayan> so does my idea makes sense? or maybe show the login form first 14:41:31 <mizmo> so what i would do ... 14:41:52 <mizmo> hm 14:41:59 <mizmo> this is a tough one, needs more thought than i can whip out right now 14:42:30 <mizmo> ill look at some patterns for how other sites handle this 14:42:50 <mizmo> #action mizmo figure out how preexisting waartaa accts log in via login mockup design 14:43:05 <sayan> I generally find the login form first and then a link to create account 14:43:18 <sayan> that would bring up the signup form 14:43:21 <sayan> in the same place 14:43:45 <mizmo> so this was meant to do signup / login on the same screen, and i designed it with the assumption waartaa didnt have its own seperate db of user accounts and just used social media ones 14:43:55 <mizmo> i need to rethink it for having a separate local acct system 14:44:08 <sayan> Ok, sure 14:44:22 <mizmo> bc you'll want to log into a social media acct maybe if you have no acct, but if you have an acct and you used social media you also want to use those same buttons, for sign up and log in 14:45:15 <sayan> So, this is the thing I do 14:45:59 <sayan> I join via social buttons and if I need to login via the login form I just create a password using forgot password technique 14:46:17 <sayan> or some also have the option to connect accounts in their profile settings page 14:46:59 <mizmo> im not sure a lot of users are savvy enough to figure out the forgot password trick tho 14:47:03 <mizmo> i just need some time / space to figure it out 14:47:06 <sayan> Yeah 14:47:11 <sayan> sure 14:47:20 <sayan> mizmo: also keep a forget password link too :) 14:47:26 <mizmo> yep 14:47:49 <sayan> I am also right now working on the bagdes widget again 14:47:56 <sayan> using HTML and not React 14:48:37 <pingou> back to html? 14:48:40 <sayan> Maybe sometime later move the code to React 14:48:45 <sayan> pingou: nope 14:49:07 <sayan> pingou: just writing the widgets in HTML for now 14:49:16 <pingou> ok 14:49:17 <sayan> pingou: I still need to work on the generic widget in React 14:49:34 <sayan> pingou: so, I'll do that when I a bit more free 14:49:40 <pingou> 2045? 14:50:02 <sayan> it will be quicker than you think :) 14:50:20 <pingou> stickster: cool, sayan has a lot of free time coming up 14:50:27 <stickster> ha 14:50:44 <sayan> haha 14:50:56 <sayan> the from my side 14:51:00 <sayan> </update> 14:51:36 <sayan> we have 9 minutes left. so lets move to open floor today rather than triaging bugs 14:51:44 <devyani7> +1 14:51:49 <sayan> #topic Open Floor 14:52:10 <mizmo> theres a recurring thread about onboarding contirbutors on commops 14:52:19 <mizmo> ankur is working on a new site thats like what can i do for fedora but isn't like it 14:52:26 <mizmo> i've encouraged him to build it as a hubs feature instead 14:52:53 <devyani7> +1 :) nice 14:52:57 <devyani7> yes, saw that 14:53:01 <mizmo> (i think the overall argument is that what can i do for fedora is terse pointers and he was hoping for something more guiding) 14:53:06 <mizmo> (which is what hubs was meant to do) 14:53:19 * sayan looks for the thread 14:53:19 <mizmo> so just a heads up on that, hope he'll join us 14:53:37 <a2batic> Is fedora-hubs participating for outreachy this time? 14:53:46 <sayan> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/commops@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/A4VTKXNB3LD7H2IIFNERVGWZHDGTVQRB/ 14:54:17 <sayan> jcline: abompard: stickster: devyani7: a2batic: anything you want to share in the open floor? 14:54:29 <devyani7> a2batic: rather dev participation than UX, right? 14:54:37 <a2batic> yes 14:54:48 <devyani7> sayan: ^^ 14:55:03 <sayan> mizmo has more info on outreachy 14:55:14 <mizmo> a2batic, afaik we just have a hubs UX position for outreachy (i'm mentoring it) 14:55:15 <sayan> It would be on UX 14:55:27 <a2batic> :( 14:55:32 <a2batic> oh 14:55:49 <stickster> sayan: One thing I wanted to mention is that if it would be helpful, I can help with these meetings... with the objective of helping the team identify priorities and reach milestones successfully 14:56:03 <devyani7> a2batic: sorry :/ 14:56:19 * stickster not looking to take over anyone's work, just offer services if helpful 14:56:28 <devyani7> stickster++ :) 14:56:37 <a2batic> sayan, please assign me some issue :) 14:56:45 <jcline> So I had not heard of hubs before today, so my plan is to do a lot of research today and update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Hubs as I go along. I'll probably be asking for lots of pointers today, so sorry in advance :) 14:56:48 <sayan> stickster: would be happy to get some help 14:56:51 <stickster> jcline++ 14:56:53 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for jcline changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:56:57 <stickster> COOKIE PARTY 14:57:00 <mizmo> jcline++ that page really needs love 14:57:00 <zodbot> mizmo: Karma for jcline changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:57:19 <mizmo> jcline, there's a lot of stuff here: http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/category/fedora/fedora-hubs/ 14:57:24 <devyani7> jcline++ :) 14:57:24 <zodbot> devyani7: Karma for jcline changed to 5 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:57:32 <stickster> mizmo: Yeah, I was just looking at it precisely to see if jcline could learn from it, we discovered at the same time and he volunteered to update it :-) 14:57:46 * sayan points jcline to https://hubs-dev.fedorainfracloud.org/ 14:57:52 * stickster slapped {{needs love}} on it in meantime 14:58:14 <sayan> jcline: you can browse around 14:58:36 <jcline> sayan, thanks, I noticed the link in the README was down. I'll update that too. 14:58:53 <sayan> jcline: right 14:59:00 <devyani7> jcline++ I noticed that too ! 14:59:17 <sayan> jcline: I noticed it yesterday, you can send your first fix 14:59:31 <mizmo> sayan, so i could have sworn i saw buttons with the square on the left in the bootstrap docs but i cant find them now. there is bootstrap-social which is somewhat close, can you use those? 14:59:36 <devyani7> I noticed it on sunday during the diversity call :( 14:59:52 <sayan> mizmo: ok, I will look into them 14:59:56 * jcline races off to clone the repo 15:00:03 <sayan> and ping you if I need help 15:00:14 <mizmo> is anybody working on the zanata stuff 15:00:25 <sayan> mizmo: no, I did not check 15:00:28 <fedmsg-hubs> pagure.project.forked -- jcline forked project "fedora-hubs" to "jcline/fedora-hubs" https://pagure.io/fork/jcline/fedora-hubs 15:00:33 <sayan> But I did see improvements on the ticket 15:00:34 * stickster suggests that if anyone's available, the next hour could be used to help jcline and abompard sync up on (1) fixing the wiki page; and (2) assigned (or to-be-assigned) tickets 15:00:42 <stickster> right here in channel 15:01:06 <sayan> The status of the ticket changed from review to QA yesterday 15:01:43 <stickster> *nod -- there was also some info there about how the webhooks are implemented, probably needs someone in the team to verify they're usable 15:01:46 <mizmo> cool 15:01:56 <sayan> mizmo: and no, nobody is working on zanata right now 15:02:05 <mizmo> sayan, do we want to drop it from the mid oct milestone list? 15:02:14 <sayan> a2batic: you want to pick this up? 15:03:17 <a2batic> sayan, Yes :) 15:03:29 <sayan> a2batic: https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/165 15:03:43 <sayan> mizmo: this needs a mockup too 15:03:57 <sayan> a2batic: https://zanata.atlassian.net/browse/ZNTA-1166 15:04:00 <mizmo> oh there are mockups for this... i wonder why they arent on the ticket sayan 15:04:05 <mizmo> i sent them to alex for sure 15:04:16 * mizmo digs 15:04:20 <sayan> mizmo: got it 15:04:22 <sayan> mizmo: https://pagure.io/fedora-hubs/issue/167 15:04:34 <sayan> a2batic: check this ticket ^^ 15:04:42 <a2batic> sayan, ok 15:04:55 <sayan> a2batic: have a look at the ticket and ping me 15:04:55 <mizmo> ah thats a large overview without the individual translation widgets seperated out 15:06:21 <sayan> mizmo: you can then update the ticket there 15:06:36 <a2batic> sayan, ok :) 15:06:55 <sayan> We are overtime so ending the meeting 15:06:59 <sayan> 3. 15:07:01 <sayan> 2. 15:07:03 <sayan> 1. 15:07:05 <sayan> #endmeeting