14:59:46 <jadudm> #startmeeting
14:59:47 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 13 14:59:46 2010 UTC.  The chair is jadudm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:59:53 <mchua> There we go.
15:00:06 <mchua> I *totally* forgot I'd started this on the projector.
15:00:20 <jadudm> That's OK.
15:01:19 * mchua waves to the class. I'm working from MIT's campus today, sitting in Walter Bender's office on Mass Ave.
15:12:40 <DEiben> We're working on one page release notes and what we really need is a list of features that need highlighted, anyone think they can help here?
15:15:02 <mchua> DEiben: I'd recommend popping into #fedora-mktg - i can help you with that question there.
15:16:48 <johnsog> We're working on a spin page for SoaS and have some questions on the context for the page, specifically the support section. Is there someone that could help with that?
15:18:43 <ke4qqq> johnsog: what's your question?
15:21:37 <johnsog> ke4qqq: I saw that there is a support section on the wiki page and I was wondering if what is listed there is what the spin page should have as well?
15:21:56 <ke4qqq> johnsog: link to the wiki page you are referring to?
15:22:28 <johnsog> ke4qqq: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sugar_on_a_Stick#Sugar_on_a_Stick
15:24:02 <morinoa> would someone walk me through changing the text on a webpage?
15:24:08 <ke4qqq> morinoa: sure
15:24:14 <ke4qqq> johnsog: yeah that looks good
15:24:43 <johnsog> ke4qqq: ok thank you
15:24:57 <morinoa> ke4qqq: mel showed us how to open and save the file as a text file, and then change the words, but when I try to open it in a browser the text is not changed
15:25:12 <morinoa> maybe I've got it wrong, could we go from the beginning?
15:25:14 <ke4qqq> morinoa: whats the page you are trying to change
15:26:28 <morinoa> I tried to change the instructions for the desgin spins page. It doesn't matter really what I try to change, I just want to get the hang of it. Maybe we could work with the design templates? idk where those are though
15:26:36 <ke4qqq> ok
15:26:47 <ke4qqq> so you have a fas account right?
15:26:52 <ke4qqq> .fasinfo morinoa
15:26:55 <zodbot> ke4qqq: User "morinoa" doesn't exist
15:27:01 <morinoa> idk what is a fas account?
15:27:42 <ke4qqq> have you gone to admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts and created an account - I think you'll have to have one to get your edits to take
15:27:48 <ke4qqq> mchua: ^^
15:27:59 <ke4qqq> mchua: did you have them do that so they had edit perms on wiki?
15:28:40 <morinoa> I think I only joined a mailing list, but I'm not sure if we got permission for an account that or not
15:29:39 <mchua> morinoa: You'll still need to make an FAS account (at the link ke4qqq just put above) to get wiki edit access.
15:29:45 <mchua> Mailing list signup is separate from that.
15:29:58 <mchua> ke4qqq: Not everyone has a FAS account yet.
15:30:17 <morinoa> mchua: ok I'll do that now
15:30:32 <ke4qqq> morinoa: I can walk you through signing up as well - but doubtyou need that. You do need to have the account and 'sign' the CLA but that's about it
15:32:02 <mchua> morinoa: it sounds like you guys may want to ask jadudm for a wiki tutorial.
15:42:16 <morinoa> ke4qqq: Ok, so I have an account, and I signed the CLA, step two?
15:42:35 <mchua> morinoa: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Wiki may be a helpful resource on how to get started with wiki editing.
15:42:41 <ke4qqq> morinoa: go to the wiki page you want to edit
15:42:42 <mchua> jadudm: Are you/Darren around?
15:42:55 <mchua> jadudm: I think some local buffering on wiki editing might be super helpful right now
15:43:04 <ke4qqq> morinoa: click the "Log in" link in the upper right corner
15:43:27 <ke4qqq> put your creds in - and click "Log in"
15:43:37 <jadudm> beep beep beep
15:43:54 <jadudm> is someone doing wiki editing?
15:44:09 <ke4qqq> someone wants to, does that count?
15:44:13 <jadudm> sure
15:44:14 <ke4qqq> :)
15:44:18 <jadudm> is that morinoa
15:44:19 <jadudm> ?
15:44:21 <ke4qqq> morinoa and company
15:44:22 <ke4qqq> yes
15:44:26 <jadudm> she's right here.
15:44:29 <jadudm> :D
15:44:31 <jadudm> I'm a riot!
15:44:41 <jadudm> kk - we'll do some ninja wiki training.
15:44:44 <morinoa> I am right here. talking behind my back doen't quite work when I can see what you type lol
15:44:48 <morinoa> jk
15:45:16 <ke4qqq> morinoa: just wait til you have 50 channels open and can't watch them all at once..... lol your ears start burning and you don't know why :)
15:59:36 <morinoa> oh... can't wait
15:59:39 <morinoa> lol
16:00:45 <morinoa> ke4qqq: matt helped me learn how to edit my user page wiki for my fas account. I want to use it to create my content for the potential design spin webpage so that other can see ti and make comments. good plan?
16:01:04 <ke4qqq> yes very good plan
16:01:30 <morinoa> ke4qqq: great! Now all I need to do is play around on the fedora design spin so I can figure out some content
16:01:50 <ke4qqq> morinoa: so I saw your blogpost - did you ever get that working??
16:02:09 <ke4qqq> if not, let me know when you have some time and we'll work to get something going for you
16:02:53 <ke4qqq> jadudm: did you see the vm probs?? the collective 'wisdom' from afar is that it might be a memory issue....but.... we don't know.
16:03:15 <morinoa> ke4qqq: here's another question for you, I had a bug last week when I tried to install the design spin to my virtual box. I haven't gotten a chance to do anything about it, but I saw your posts
16:03:41 <ke4qqq> morinoa: yeah so my first question is - what amount of RAM have you allocated to that VM?
16:03:54 <morinoa> ke4qqq: could we work on that at like 1?
16:04:13 <ke4qqq> morinoa: yep works for me - just ping me or anyone else around
16:04:21 <ke4qqq> we'll get you squared away
16:07:32 <brankf> I have a VM problem.. The fedora live cd loads, but when it is supposed to load the desktop it only shows a black screen.. any help?
16:07:40 <ke4qqq> sdziallas: see my /msg?
16:07:54 <kohnenm> I
16:07:57 <ke4qqq> brankf: what VM software are you using?
16:07:58 <sdziallas> ke4qqq: reply incoming ;)
16:08:03 <ke4qqq> sdziallas: thanks
16:08:38 <kohnenm> I've been having the same problems with fedora loading on my computer (same as brankf) if someone could let me know too it be nice.
16:09:08 <ke4qqq> sdziallas: can you address brankf and kohnem (and graduate and all of that too) while I correct my mistake
16:09:32 * sdziallas looks above
16:10:07 <sdziallas> brankf, kohnenm: ayup - so which VM software are you using, and which kind of Fedora (what mchua distributed? something else?)
16:10:32 <brankf> yeah the beta.. and i'm using virtualbox, the newest secure version
16:10:38 <ke4qqq> ohhh yeah - was there a video bug at one point with one of the beta RC
16:10:58 <morinoa> ke4qqq: actually our design spin group will be meeting at 7:30 tonight, and we will be trying to catch everyone up to spped with virtual box, installing the spin, and getting fas accounts, would you be available?
16:11:25 <sdziallas> brankf: the beta that got released today or what Mel distributed?
16:11:48 <brankf> what Mel distributed, i am currently downloading the dvd version to see if that will fix my problem
16:11:50 <kohnenm> mel's
16:11:56 <sdziallas> ah, okay!
16:11:59 <mchua> brankf: I'm available at 7:30pm today. What are you trying to do?
16:12:00 <ke4qqq> morinoa: I will be - but you should know that I am aesthetically incompetent
16:12:07 * mchua reads up
16:12:09 <ke4qqq> and design as well :)
16:12:09 <sdziallas> ke4qqq: heh, my fault for causing incoherent version numbers ;)
16:12:25 <mchua> brankf: Actually, getting the VM to work - that's something that Matt and Darren are better equipped to handle locally.
16:12:28 <morinoa> ke4qqq: haha that's not a problem, we've got the aesthetics down, just none of the tech parts
16:12:40 <mchua> It may be that the livecds won't work on some computers - not enough RAM, etc.
16:13:08 <brankf> yeah i worked with matt briefly but the problem still exists.. i'm going to try to download the beta and burn the iso and run it to see what happens
16:13:09 <ke4qqq> #task ke4qqq to find out what perms needed to commit to s.fp.o
16:13:20 <brankf> ill do my best to be back at 7:30 after our baseball game
16:13:22 <ke4qqq> or someone who is chair repeat that #task?
16:13:34 <kohnenm> mchua: okay I'll talk to Matt and see if he can help, thanks.
16:14:23 <ke4qqq> .any ricky
16:14:23 <zodbot> ke4qqq: I have not seen ricky.
16:15:03 <mchua> morinoa: The SoaS spin - I think that starting the conversation on the mailing list (if you have the 3 things we discussed on Thursday night) is more important than getting the spin to run in a VM right now.
16:15:44 <mchua> morinoa: A running VM is not a prerequistite for starting that conversation, and Matt and Darren can help you get the VM running anytime, whereas we folks in the community can't do *anything* to help y'all until you start that conversation on-list.
16:15:49 <morinoa> ok thanks mel
16:19:36 <jadudm> ok
16:19:38 <jadudm> we're out for now
16:19:43 <jadudm> more later, mel... we're going to have to run
16:19:53 <jadudm> #endmeeting