#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:01:28

!startmeeting Alterative Images (2026-01-08)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

19:01:29

Meeting started at 2026-01-08 19:01:28 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

19:01:30

The Meeting name is 'Alterative Images (2026-01-08)'

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:01:36

!meetingname Alterative Images

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:01:36

!topic aloha

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

19:01:37

The Meeting Name is now Alterative Images

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:02:08

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

19:02:09

Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:02:21

Hi Davide Cavalca

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:02:43

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

19:02:46

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:02:53

Hi Conan Kudo

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:03:10

I'll give it another minute or two to see if Robby makes it.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:03:50

might need to poke him internally

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:03:58

he might have forgotten in the bustle of getting a new job

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:04:08

he might have forgotten in the bustle of the new job

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:04:24

He's made it to the other meetings, but I'll give him a poke.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:04:51

he at least announced his new job this week, so... 🤷

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:05:58

Ya, he's pinged me internally, so I've got his slack name and stuff ...

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:06:12

But, I'm going to get started.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:06:32

!topic Latest News

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:07:01

I'm in the middle of this quarters rebuild.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:07:21

We didn't make any major changes, actually no changes, since last quarter.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:07:52

there's a new kiwi version that will be coming this week

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:08:04

10.2.36

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:08:18

Next quarter we should have some changes to KDE for CS10 ... but we talked about it in the KDE Sig and we'll wait for plasma 6.6 to make the login manager and startup changes.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:08:49

Thus far, everything has passed tests, except for the CS10 MIN Live.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:09:32

We've always had a strange error at the end of the text installer (because we weren't running as root), but now it's not removing the autologin for the live user.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:10:12

So after you do your install and reboot, it keeps trying to autologin a live-user, which isn't a user on the fresh installed system.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:11:21

I just saw this a few hours ago, and I'm still working on getting a full log of the error.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:12:23

I haven't tested the WSL images, but all the other images passed the tests (except MIN on CS10)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:12:36

That's all I have for the current news.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:13:02

Does anyone have anything else for current news before we move onto the future things?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:14:40

OK, moving on.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:14:53

!topic Whats Next

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:15:36

There will be two events at CentOS Connect at the end of this month.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:16:08

There will be a joint workshop with the Hyperscale SIG, on Thursday morning.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:16:35

That will be 4 hours, but I'll only be able to be full time there for the first two hours.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:17:37

Then on Thursday Afternoon, there will be the "AltImages: Let's talk about it" My annual status report.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:18:16

I haven't gotten a demo figured out yet, but I'm sure it will be great. :)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:19:12

But what I think is more exciting is two changes to our images expected for (hopefully) next quarter.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:19:40

The first is the CS10 KDE Live image.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:20:21

After Plasma 6.6 makes it into EPEL10, we plan on changing the login manager to Plasma Login Manager, from SDDM.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:20:43

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

19:20:44

Robby Callicotte (rcallicotte) - he / him / his

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:20:55

sorry im late

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:21:00

We're also going to try to have Anaconda skip the User Setup, and have it happen with Plasma Welcome.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:21:06

Hi Robby Callicotte

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:21:28

Better late then never. Always glad to have you here.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:22:21

So, next quarters KDE image will be exciting.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:23:29

The other image that I realistically see on the horizon is the risc-v image.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:24:04

what about arm?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:24:25

I'm really hoping that the ISA SIG will get the full risc-v rebuild of CentOS 10 by then.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:24:39

We're already building images for arm.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:24:55

I guess I don't know what the full question is, what do you mean?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:27:02

desktop images for arm

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:28:10

We have them: https://www.centos.org/altimages/ ... the aarch64 images.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:28:58

https://mirror.stream.centos.org/SIGs/10-stream/altimages/images/live/x86_64/CentOS-Stream-Image-KDE-Live.x86_64-10-202510080808.iso

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:29:13

Or are you meaning RAW images?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:29:16

yeah that

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:29:26

disk images as opposed to isos

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:29:26

Ah, ok.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:30:12

!link https://pagure.io/centos-sig-alt-images/sig/issue/4

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:31:52

I haven't touched them, mainly because of priorities and nobody has asked about them for quite a while.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:32:42

Do you have people asking for them? I can raise them in my priorities.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:34:18

I've had people asking for the risc-v images, which is why they are higher on my priorities.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:35:00

it comes up for working with some of the more fancy SBCs

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:36:23

Well, now that both Fedora and ELN are using Kiwi to make their raw images, it really shouldn't be that hard.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:37:19

I'll bump it up in priority this month/quarter and see about making them.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:37:43

it'll help for the riscv stuff later too

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:37:50

getting those kinks worked out for non-x86

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:38:45

Anything other future stuff before we move to Open Floor?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:39:27

!topic Open Floor

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:40:07

I wanted to bring up loongarm ... or really any other future chipset.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:40:28

that would be awesome

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:40:41

I know what my opinion is, but I wanted to see what others thought.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:41:30

One of the goals of this SIG was to make images from packages in the CentOS and Fedora infrastructure.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:42:12

So, while I look forward to doing other architectures, we can't really do them, until they someone get onto those infrastructures.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:42:42

That being said, I see no problem helping out people that might have their own local build/repo.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:43:16

So, while I look forward to doing other architectures, we can't really do them, until they somehow get onto those infrastructures.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:43:23

well, at least figuring out what's needed can be helpful

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:43:30

Yep

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:43:35

and I assume you meant loongarch

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:43:38

true

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:43:43

(the mips-like arch)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:44:06

Oh, ya ... loongarch

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:45:05

So ya, I think it would be good for us to help them, because eventually, if the chipset becomes popular enough, we'll be needing to do the work anyway.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:45:58

But, that being said, I would like to draw the line at putting those images in our SIG's space, if they are coming from a private repo.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:46:24

well of course

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:46:48

OK, I just wanted to make sure that I was thinking what others were thinking.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:48:53

That's all I had for Open Floor ... does anyone else have anything they wanted to bring up?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:51:24

I'll consider the silence to be nobody has anything else.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:51:38

Thank ya'll for coming today.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:52:07

thanks Troy

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:52:20

!endmeeting