#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:00:18

!startmeeting Alterative Images (2024-06-13)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

19:00:20

Meeting started at 2024-06-13 19:00:18 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

19:00:20

The Meeting name is 'Alterative Images (2024-06-13)'

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:00:26

!meetingname AltImages

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

19:00:27

The Meeting Name is now AltImages

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:00:31

!hi

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:00:32

!topic aloha

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

19:00:32

Robby Callicotte (rcallicotte) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:00:42

Hi Robby Callicotte

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:01:11

I think most everyone else is a Devcon, so I'm not sure how many will show up.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:01:30

oh yeah

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:02:03

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

19:02:05

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:02:05

But, that's ok.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:02:15

I'm a little half-dead but here

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:02:36

Hi Conan Kudo and Davide Cavalca

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

19:02:44

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

19:02:46

Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:02:56

Hi Neil Hanlon

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:03:22

Well, this is more than I expected. So let's get going before it get's too late for some.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:03:29

!topic Latest News

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:04:15

I've gotten my "text only" MIN live working

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:04:41

It automatically logs in as liveuser, in text mode.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:04:48

I think it's rather handy.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:04:50

that is cool

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:05:13

Right now it's 1.1 Gig, due to the installer.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:05:42

Although it only does text installs, and that works, it's pulling in all the anaconda gui stuff.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:06:12

If I install just anaconda-tui, it fails on one thing after another.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:06:39

cross-deps with anaconda-tui?

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:06:47

is this expected to work? we may wanna reach out to anaconda and see if there's a way to workaround the issue

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:07:05

So, I'm just working my way through the errors, to see if I can get an install working without hitting the whole anaconda gui stack.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:07:26

Thus far it's mostly drivers.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:07:58

Like iscsi and a few other odd things.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:08:41

But, in the end, even taking anaconda off, it's only saving 200 Meg. So, not alot of savings for the effort.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:08:54

darn

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:09:28

But, it boots up fast and uses the bare minimum of memory.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:10:12

Anyway, that's what I've been up to this past month.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:10:32

Has anyone else got any reports/news from the last month or two?

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:10:40

We started the ball rolling on openqa, but I did not open a ticket for tracking :/ I believe Davide might have some more info on status.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:10:52

you are generally not expected to use anaconda-tui for more than simple installs

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:11:00

it's _really_ cut down

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:11:53

I wasn't expecting to, but it wouldn't start up without those random drivers. So, maybe I just need to through some options at it.

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:12:07

I was hoping to bump into bookwar at devconf to discuss this f2f but have not seen her around yet. The cloud openqa work is progressing nicely, and I suspect the main issue with deploying this for CentOS will be figuring out where to actually host it (meaning, in which AWS account)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:12:08

That is great.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

19:12:51

awesome! I was just telling the rocky testing team about this work and they were excited by it, too. do you have any links or such you can share?

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:13:12

you can expect a blog post to come out in the coming week or so

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

19:13:26

Fantastic. looking forward to reading & boosting.

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

19:13:44

**big** thanks to you and the folks who have been working on it

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:14:42

I'm pretty sure davdunc can get that squared away

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:15:28

yeah Stewart is looped in as well and seemed confident we'd be able to figure something out

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:16:17

Any other news from the past month or two?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:16:51

!topic Whats Next

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:17:25

My next project I'm going to start work on is getting Persistant Media working.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:17:55

I'm giving myself till the end of the week to work on MIN, and then I'll be switching over to Persistant Media.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:19:31

Hmm ... my browser is acting up ... trying to get a link.

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:20:07

SIGs can now build content for CentOS Stream 10

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:20:20

I'll be starting by looking through this, and see what I can do with it. - https://github.com/weldr/lorax/pull/1360

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:20:27

I've already started building packages for Hyperscale

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:20:41

probably a bit early for AltImages but we may want to request tags to at least get the infra going

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:21:05

Oh, that's a good point. I forgot about the tags.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:21:16

Yes, I'll put that on my list of things to do.

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:21:23

(sorry, Element is lagging, didn't mean to cut you off)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:21:41

It's lagging for me too. So no worry.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:21:51

And, that was about all I had to say.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:22:43

I guess at the very least, I can try making a CentOS Stream 10 live MIN image.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:22:52

cool

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:23:30

kiwi is on the list for the first package Hyperscale needs in EPEL 10, so we're going to try to get that going

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:24:25

Hmm ... the livesys scripts, and other are in EPEL too ... hmm ... well ... at least I get the tags requested.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:25:34

livesys-scripts is easy as a near-zero dep package

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:25:38

anaconda-liveinst as well

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:25:50

Davide Cavalca and I will ensure they're in EPEL 10

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:26:25

I hear the anaconda team is close to getting things switched over to wayland ... that will make things interesting.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:26:38

yeah

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:27:39

Is there anything else coming up?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:28:08

well, altimages came up a bunch today at devconf.cz in the workshop davdunc and I did today

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:28:19

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:28:26

people are very interested in your work :)

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:28:59

I have a tentative plan to get some images out for Apple Silicon systems in the c10s timeframe, leveraging the work we did in Fedora Asahi Remix

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:29:30

this will likely happen under Hyperscale, but we'll need to build... bespoke images and some other fun stuff, so there will be overlap here

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:29:39

Wow ... that sorta blows my mind ... that would be cool.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:29:58

I don't have any apple hardware (and don't want any) but I still think it's cool.

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:30:05

this is mostly because I need something to run on a spare mac studio I have that I want to use as a server at home :)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:30:06

we originally were going to do in c9s, but the amount of package forking and borked stuff was too high for me to proceed there

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:30:20

I explored and decide nope :)

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:30:45

yeah... the delta on c10s should be a lot smaller

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:31:22

we'll wind up having a fair bit more stuff in hyperscale asahi copr for this, but yeah it should be doable

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:32:02

Ya. As much as I like the SIG infrastructure, sometimes COPR is the more logical choise.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:33:12

I'm going to switch to Open Floor

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:33:18

!topic Open Floor

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:34:13

My Alternative Images SIG talk "Lets talk about it" was accepted for Flock/Connect.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:34:36

We'll see what it conflicts with this time. :)

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:34:48

awesome. I guess everyone here will be at Flock?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:35:05

I'm already booked, so yep for me.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:35:32

I booked hotel and time away from work. just need to book a flight

<@davide:cavalca.name>

19:36:23

yup, I'll be there

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:36:31

I heard the main hotel was already booked ... so having it booked already is good.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:36:46

I'll be there

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:37:04

everything is all booked

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:38:09

I believe Shaun is going to have CentOS USB sticks. I'll be getting him a MAX image for it.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:38:27

I'll hopefully have the persistant stuff done before then, so they are more useful.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:40:38

I need to get weston updated in EPEL

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

19:40:43

so that it works again

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:41:37

Yep. It would be good to have it as one of our desktops.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:42:27

Do we have anything else before we close?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:43:30

Thank you all for coming, especially while you are at a conference.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:43:59

I'll talk to ya'll next month. and probrubly sooner.

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

19:44:12

Bye everyone!

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

19:44:16

!endmeeting