19:00:27 <felixfontein> #startmeeting Ansible Community Meeting
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19:00:27 <felixfontein> #topic Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679
19:00:30 <felixfontein> acozine, andersson007_, anwesha, baptistemm, bcoca, briantist, cidrblock, cyberpear, cybette, dericcrago, dmsimard, felixfontein, geerlingguy, gotmax, gundalow, gwmngilfen, ikhan_, jillr, jtanner, lmodemal, mariolenz[m], markuman, maxamillion, misc, nitzmahone, oranod, resmo, russoz, samccann, thaumos, wbentley15[m], zbr: The Ansible community meeting is starting now!
19:00:35 <andersson007___> o/
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19:00:39 <felixfontein> #info Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics
19:00:42 <felixfontein> #topic Updates
19:00:42 <felixfontein> #chair andersson007___
19:00:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: andersson007___ felixfontein
19:00:44 <cyberpear> o/
19:00:47 <felixfontein> #chair cyberpear
19:00:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: andersson007___ cyberpear felixfontein
19:00:58 <briantist> o/
19:01:05 <kristianheljas> o/
19:01:06 <samccann> o/
19:01:30 * dericcrago waves
19:01:32 * andersson007___ despite being in zombie state,  is happy to join the meeting:)
19:01:34 <felixfontein> #chair briantist kristianheljas samccann dericcrago
19:01:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: andersson007___ briantist cyberpear dericcrago felixfontein kristianheljas samccann
19:01:43 <cybette_> o/
19:01:44 <felixfontein> #info There is a community vote ending on 2023-03-09 (tomorrow!): How should private modules/plugins be marked? https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/204
19:01:48 <felixfontein> #info There is a community vote ending on 2023-03-09 (tomorrow!): Start implementing Semantic Markup in Ansible Documentation https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/205
19:01:52 <felixfontein> #chair cybette_
19:01:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: andersson007___ briantist cyberpear cybette_ dericcrago felixfontein kristianheljas samccann
19:02:06 <Leo[m]1> hi all
19:02:09 <felixfontein> in case you didn't already vote, please do so! :)
19:02:12 <felixfontein> #chair Leo[m]1
19:02:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: Leo[m]1 andersson007___ briantist cyberpear cybette_ dericcrago felixfontein kristianheljas samccann
19:02:33 <felixfontein> #info There is a community vote ending on 2023-03-21 (~two weeks): Adopt a new upstream community website https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/208
19:03:51 <cybette_> #info There is a community discussion about Community Plans - Discourse Forum, please share your thoughts, and a vote will be created soon https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/202
19:04:24 <andersson007___> 👍
19:04:36 <samccann> on the stuff with votes ending soon - have we gotten enuf  votes?
19:05:00 <samccann> or do we need to do some nagging
19:05:33 <andersson007___> we've reached the quorum
19:05:37 <maxamillion> .hello2
19:05:37 <felixfontein> both have > 6 SC votes, but the private plugin one has <= 6 +1s for every option - I'm not sure right now whether that's enough, I'll have to check
19:05:37 <zodbot> maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' <maxamillion@gmail.com>
19:05:38 <andersson007___> as far as i can see
19:05:45 <felixfontein> #chair maxamillion
19:05:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: Leo[m]1 andersson007___ briantist cyberpear cybette_ dericcrago felixfontein kristianheljas maxamillion samccann
19:05:55 <samccann> cool
19:05:57 <andersson007___> i counted 7
19:06:01 <andersson007___> sc
19:06:36 <andersson007___> the second 9
19:06:41 <felixfontein> acozine: yes, and 6 votes for b), 1 for a)
19:06:48 <felixfontein> ah I meant andersson007___ sorry
19:07:45 <felixfontein> according to https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/community/steering/community_steering_committee.html#community-topics-workflow it is fine though
19:07:56 <andersson007___> yep
19:08:46 <Leo[m]1> felixfontein: I was thinking on the counting, and throwing this out here, maybe we can use emojis in the initial conversation message for each option next time, and leave the comments if we want to add something, makes it easier to see who voted what i think.
19:09:04 <felixfontein> also it looks like community and SC votes agree, which is good :)
19:09:16 <kristianheljas> (voted for b)
19:09:24 <felixfontein> Leo[m]1: the reason we're not doing that is that it is impossible to track when votes change
19:09:31 <felixfontein> or which votes have been added before and which after the deadline
19:09:34 <andersson007___> was typing the same
19:09:52 <andersson007___> discussions allow you to unsubcribe
19:09:57 <acozine> o/
19:10:02 <felixfontein> #chair acozine
19:10:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: Leo[m]1 acozine andersson007___ briantist cyberpear cybette_ dericcrago felixfontein kristianheljas maxamillion samccann
19:10:35 <andersson007___> vote + unsubcrribe
19:10:48 <andersson007___> it's worked ok so far imo
19:11:07 <andersson007___> though native support for votes would be better of course
19:11:32 <felixfontein> also there are two groups of voters, SC members and community folks, and we need to count them separately - which makes it harder to do with emojis
19:11:49 <andersson007___> yep
19:11:54 * samccann ponders if a future forum could support voting
19:12:17 <felixfontein> discussions have native support for polls, but it had some properties which weren't helpful IIRC - I'm not sure anymore what they were though
19:12:22 <felixfontein> samccann: yeah, that would be nice :)
19:12:31 <Leo[m]1> felixfontein: Ok, I see. I will bring this later, no worries! it was a quick thought!
19:12:31 * andersson007___ wonders too
19:13:06 <andersson007___> yep, i don't remember the details but it didn't work
19:13:15 <andersson007___> well for us
19:13:31 <briantist> I think discussion polls are anonymous, which goes back to SC vs non-SC
19:13:39 <andersson007___> yep
19:13:55 <felixfontein> is there anything specific someone wants to discuss?
19:13:59 <felixfontein> briantist: ah yes...
19:14:35 <samccann> have folks posted their thoughts on the forum idea?
19:14:43 <samccann> https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/202
19:14:50 <andersson007___> good reminder
19:14:51 <kristianheljas> I will!
19:15:01 <remindbot[m]> @cybette:ansible.im cyb-clock chimes every 15 minutes during the community meeting
19:15:15 <dericcrago> I just had a quick thing, the PPA repo had a request to start doing ansible-lint (https://github.com/ansible-community/ppa/issues/41) anyone have any thoughts?
19:16:24 <dericcrago> willing to move the discussion elsewhere if this is not the right group, but just thought I would mention here
19:16:47 <felixfontein> dericcrago: I think ansible-lint has many more dependencies, which could make this a lot harder to package
19:18:17 <felixfontein> but I would leave that decision to whoever wants to do the work ;)
19:18:41 <dericcrago> haha, right :)
19:20:00 <cybette_> does anyone want to discuss the forum idea now, or just share your thoughts in github issue #202?
19:20:46 <kristianheljas> cant speak for other, but i'd like to gather my thoughts first, so #202 it is for me
19:21:10 <acozine> ah, I am behind on my reading list
19:21:21 * acozine pulls up the blog posts
19:23:04 <cybette_> It's quite a bit of reading to do :) but a very well laid out proposal
19:25:03 <maxamillion> I added my enthusiastic +1 to #202
19:25:15 <maxamillion> but am happy to help convince detractors that this is a good idea :)
19:25:48 <andersson007___> :)
19:26:00 <samccann> heheh
19:26:35 <samccann> i'm kind of excited about it
19:26:38 <cybette_> same
19:27:13 <AndreasadsScherb> > * <@acozine:ansible.im> pulls up the blog posts
19:27:13 <AndreasadsScherb> Here, RSS aggregator? ;-)
19:27:29 <acozine> heh
19:27:37 * andersson007___ will ask someone to bring concerns
19:29:15 <felixfontein> the most annoying thing for me is that discourse doesn't work when umatrix is active: https://meta.discourse.org/t/umatrix-browser-add-on-causes-white-pages-when-visiting-discourse-instances/155239/4
19:30:00 <remindbot[m]> @cybette:ansible.im cyb-clock chimes every 15 minutes during the community meeting
19:30:51 <Leo[m]1> felixfontein: I thought umatrix was deprecated, I have been using ublock for a long while now
19:31:36 <Leo[m]1> * ublock origin > same author
19:31:43 <cybette_> I'm using ublock as well
19:32:01 <andersson007___> felixfontein: can you adjust it not to be active on discourse?
19:32:08 <felixfontein> Leo[m]1: if ublock origin wouldn't be so inflexible compared to umatrix I would happily just use it...
19:32:14 <andersson007___> (i don't know just asking)
19:32:26 <felixfontein> andersson007___: not without loading all the crap that discourse wants to load by default, like google fonts
19:32:47 <andersson007___> ah, got it
19:32:50 <Leo[m]1> felixfontein: ohh, i miss it too, now that you reminded me of umatrix I had to double check if it was rebooted!
19:33:05 <felixfontein> Leo[m]1: I'm simply refusing to uninstall it, that's unfortunately it ;)
19:35:40 <andersson007___> felixfontein:  you could put your concerns to the topic, maybe there are options, who knows
19:36:35 <felixfontein> andersson007___: I'm not sure there is a really better solution than discourse though, and I don't want to block that :)
19:36:36 <andersson007___> Greg seems to be an expert
19:37:23 <andersson007___> i mean maybe there are options how to bypass it
19:38:05 <andersson007___> or write to him directly
19:38:30 <samccann> if there aren't other topics, I'd like to bring up a call for help?
19:40:06 <samccann> #info docsite redesign underway! We could do with people poking around, giving feedback, picking issues to help fix etc - https://github.com/ansible/jinja-docsite/issues
19:40:25 <andersson007___> +1
19:40:45 <samccann> #info you can see the WIP site at https://ansible.github.io/jinja-docsite/
19:41:11 <samccann> Focus is on those user journeys and having good 'calls to action' aka links etc so both beginners and experts get quick links to what they need
19:41:52 <samccann> and if anyone has ux/web design experience, would love that help/feedback as well!
19:44:05 <kristianheljas> and if you do, let me know as well - i'm tinkering with responsivness so there's some overlap
19:44:30 <samccann> cool thanks!!
19:45:00 <remindbot[m]> @cybette:ansible.im cyb-clock chimes every 15 minutes during the community meeting
19:45:44 <andersson007___> thanks!
19:46:07 <samccann> Do we have anything else to talk about? Feels like things got quiet here
19:46:28 <kristianheljas> everybody reads the blog i guess 😛
19:46:33 <samccann> :-)
19:46:41 <andersson007___> the dancing floor is yours folks
19:46:45 <samccann> could be!
19:46:54 <maxamillion> :)
19:47:12 <samccann> ok i'll end meeting in a minute if nothing else comes up (besides virtual floor dancing)
19:47:53 <andersson007___> who wants can do it throughout the night, no limitations
19:47:58 <felixfontein> #topic open floor
19:48:09 <felixfontein> let's make it official ;)
19:48:18 <andersson007___> heh
19:48:22 <cybette_> open dance floor!
19:48:23 <samccann> hahaha
19:48:47 <samccann> ok looks like we can call it a day/meeting folks!
19:49:00 <cybette_> 💃💃
19:49:05 <samccann> #endmeeting