19:05:13 #startmeeting Ansible Diversity Working Group | Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/577 19:05:13 Meeting started Thu Sep 16 19:05:13 2021 UTC. 19:05:13 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 19:05:13 The chair is misc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:05:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:05:13 The meeting name has been set to 'ansible_diversity_working_group_|_agenda:_https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/577' 19:05:22 #chair thedoubl3j 19:05:22 Current chairs: misc thedoubl3j 19:06:11 #topic Discuss new CoC 19:06:24 https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/577#issuecomment-913212722 19:06:51 _reading_ 19:06:56 tadeboro proposed to discuss on this CoC, to know if that can be included 19:07:00 * misc also reading 19:08:06 ah sorry I'm on a call that's running over and I didn't realize the time 19:10:14 o/ 19:10:49 so reading the document, I see nothing egregious 19:11:20 yeah, same for me 19:12:06 I also read it through and found no issues. The sources/inspiration also look solid. 19:12:50 But I di add it to the agenda because the inclusion rules say D&I should give a thumbs up on each non-standard CoC. 19:12:58 there is the part about slurs who is IMHO maybe risky against bad faith actors, but that's not like it is specific to that CoC 19:13:46 * jillr is actually present now 19:14:00 the part about "we are not here to do your job for you", while I understand the sentiment, is also a bit odd in that document 19:15:27 I would also say that the process wrt meetup could be improved 19:15:45 1) no obligation to report to a central group/authority/something 19:15:52 that feels odd as well to me, almost kind of like "don't ask to many questions" 19:16:02 2) "Meetup 19:16:04 organizers are encouraged to prominently display points of contact" 19:16:35 I think this should be move from SHOULD to MUST (per RFC 2119) 19:17:28 thedoubl3j: yeah, even if I can see that the goal is maybe preventing volunteers exhaustion 19:18:01 (but then, maybe say so to the people) 19:18:07 eh, I can think of examples of meetups I've run or attended where the space might make that awkward or prohibitive 19:19:02 to display point of contact ? 19:19:07 yes, sorry 19:19:42 Generally I think this CoC is ok 19:19:48 yeah 19:20:02 I agree the "not do your job for you" is odd but it's suepr not a blocker to me 19:21:11 should we do formal a vote? 19:21:16 sure 19:21:19 *a formal 19:21:28 do we have to decide on the voting syste first ? 19:21:32 hehe 19:21:45 I think +1, 0, -1 from all present is good 19:22:03 * misc stop his playbook to deploy a condorcet voting software 19:22:22 VOTE: should we accept the nautabot CoC for inclusion requests in ansible 19:22:27 +1 19:22:32 +1 19:22:36 +1 19:22:40 +1 19:23:00 vote passes unanimously \o/ 19:23:15 #info nautabot CoC accepted with 4 votes in favor, 0 against 19:23:22 #chair jillr tadeboro 19:23:22 Current chairs: jillr misc tadeboro thedoubl3j 19:23:30 nautobot correct? 19:23:37 not "nautabot" 19:23:40 mhh 19:23:42 #undo 19:23:42 Removing item from minutes: INFO by misc at 19:23:15 : nautabot CoC accepted with 4 votes in favor, 0 against 19:23:53 #info nautobot CoC accepted with 4 votes in favor, 0 against 19:24:40 Should I add a comment with the observations that were brought up during the discussion to the inclusion review? That comment will not block the inclusion, of course. 19:25:09 +1, thanks 19:25:37 yeah, i guess that's a good idea 19:26:05 but the part about central reporting is IMHO something to clarify 19:26:16 cause I think that's something we want for ansible meetup 19:27:11 but then, a meetup on nautobot-ansible would be a nautobot one, or a ansible one ? 19:27:32 I guess it depend who organize, and maybe I just find edge cases that do not exist :/ 19:28:02 yeah probably whoever organizes/hosts 19:29:03 but then, if "Red Hat" organizes an Ansible meetup is it a RH or Ansible meetup? :) 19:29:17 mhhh, yeah 19:29:50 a problem for another day 19:30:02 or if we have a booth at a event, what is the radius around the booth where the CoC apply ? 19:30:34 anyway, no others topic, open floor ? 19:31:18 nada from me, hopefully will have a new attendeee at the next meeting. got the word spread a little bit and got some interest shown 19:31:32 #topic open floor 19:31:32 yay new people! 19:32:05 so, maybe I changed the topic too fast, now the CoC is accepted, do we have a list somewhere to update ? 19:32:45 we should probably put one on the wiki 19:32:51 but I dont think we have one today 19:33:08 I need to remember about this meeting 19:34:23 oh, we can ping you :) 19:34:58 Heh 19:35:28 * jillr updating the wiki real quick 19:37:10 ok so closing, cause... I am hungry 19:37:35 #endmeeting