17:00:44 #startmeeting AnsibleFest Contributors Summit: Cloud Breakout 17:00:44 Meeting started Mon Sep 23 17:00:44 2019 UTC. 17:00:44 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:00:44 The chair is akasurde. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:44 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:44 The meeting name has been set to 'ansiblefest_contributors_summit:_cloud_breakout' 17:01:00 #chair akasurde 17:01:00 Current chairs: akasurde 17:01:05 #chair shaps 17:01:05 Current chairs: akasurde shaps 17:01:11 #chair Goneri 17:01:11 Current chairs: Goneri akasurde shaps 17:01:15 #chair shertel 17:01:15 Current chairs: Goneri akasurde shaps shertel 17:01:20 #chair felixfontein 17:01:20 Current chairs: Goneri akasurde felixfontein shaps shertel 17:01:22 hi! 17:01:26 * akasurde waves 17:01:39 #chair jillr 17:01:39 Current chairs: Goneri akasurde felixfontein jillr shaps shertel 17:01:55 dericcrago, are you around ? 17:06:48 #info jillr is starting the introduction to Cloud Breakout in Ansible Fest Atlanta 2019 17:07:12 #info Link to Etherpad - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ansible-summit-atlanta-2019-cloud 17:08:13 #chair Abrass 17:08:13 Current chairs: Abrass Goneri akasurde felixfontein jillr shaps shertel 17:08:18 is there audio? I'm not hearing anything right now 17:08:34 #chair dmellado 17:08:34 Current chairs: Abrass Goneri akasurde dmellado felixfontein jillr shaps shertel 17:08:50 Intermittent talking, fighting AV issues 17:09:23 #info Goneri is talking about VMware CI automation 17:09:43 so in theory I should be able to hear something? 17:09:49 felixfontein: yeah 17:09:51 Yes 17:09:52 goneri's speaking 17:09:52 felixfontein, yes 17:09:57 can't you hear him? 17:09:59 felixfontein: you should yes 17:10:40 #info Goneri and jillr added support for WorldStream for VMware CI automation 17:11:02 #info One VMware CI automation takes 20 min to spin up new environment 17:11:24 ah. now I have audio... 17:11:29 felixfontein, Cool 17:13:02 Does cloud team have pans to leverage collections for some of the modules? what will that migration look like? 17:13:31 #chair elijahd 17:13:31 Current chairs: Abrass Goneri akasurde dmellado elijahd felixfontein jillr shaps shertel 17:13:50 does that mean I should ping a chair? 17:14:06 oh wait you made me one oops hah 17:14:06 cloud is a primary usecase for collections, but we haven’t yet tested or decided on how that will look 17:14:13 elijahd, yes, for VMware we are testing collection and how we can leverage the power of collection 17:14:39 ok, very interested in what the "deprecation"/"graduation" messaging will look like 17:14:51 e.g. "hey go use the collection" when calling the module direclty 17:14:57 *directly 17:15:47 #info VMware Ansible team using Worldstream environment for CI automation 17:18:57 #info jillr is talking about "Status of AWS" 17:19:26 Integration tests added in current release of Ansible 17:19:39 *2.9 17:20:59 #info AWS integration tests - https://github.com/ansible/community/blob/master/group-aws/integration.md 17:22:16 I'm curious if mattclay can weigh in on CI as things get broken out into different repo(s). Since 2.4 we have required integration tests for new features/modules, so I'm curious how that will change. 17:23:35 I kind of assume the necessity of tests is going to go away 17:24:08 jillr asked a min ago about what migration to collections might look like 17:24:15 if you have any prognostications 17:24:22 * elijahd raises hand 17:25:50 elijahd, I will take question after the current question 17:26:02 ack thanks 17:26:33 question is How can spin up VMware setup for testing the VMware integration tests ? 17:27:03 #action Goneri will add document link to point the VMware integration test 17:28:05 #info Document for VMware test guidelines - https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/dev_guide/platforms/vmware_guidelines.rst 17:29:35 Question - how can I find Azure integration test guidelines and finding documentation around ? 17:30:43 #action Akasurde Ask Azure community to develop a document for Azure integration tests 17:38:16 elijahd, what the "deprecation"/"graduation" messaging will look like 17:38:42 elijahd, Collection will be segrega 17:39:15 elijahd, Collection will be separated like aws-community-collection or vmware-community-collection etc. 17:39:57 jillr thanks 17:40:53 elijahd, There will be definitely a deprecation cycle before collection is supported fully. 17:41:42 #chair Abrass 17:41:42 Current chairs: Abrass Goneri akasurde dmellado elijahd felixfontein jillr shaps shertel 17:41:45 #chair Abrass_ 17:41:45 Current chairs: Abrass Abrass_ Goneri akasurde dmellado elijahd felixfontein jillr shaps shertel 17:42:29 #chair dflick 17:42:29 Current chairs: Abrass Abrass_ Goneri akasurde dflick dmellado elijahd felixfontein jillr shaps shertel 17:44:30 Question is - How we maintain single point of truth for Collection ? 17:46:35 jillr was the question touching on how can we define what versions of anisble a collection is compatible with? 17:47:13 e.g. a collection is updated to use something that only works in ansible 2.13? what happens when installing collection in 2.10? 17:47:35 elijahd yes 17:47:59 can you re-summarize response, because I did not grok it 17:48:49 Yes, We still have to figure out about Support matrix for Collection so it is too early to answer right now 17:49:34 Question - What is timeline to introduce to Community collection for existing modules ? 17:50:14 Answer - Ansible Core team has "scripts" which will create Collection for existing module. 17:50:40 #action Akasurde Ask Dylan for Timeline for Collection creation and migrations 17:51:29 #info Link to Collection - https://github.com/ansible-collections 17:53:39 #action Akasurde ask Acozine about doc about issue migration and go-to place for people to point to 17:56:31 Question - How partners can support or test the collection they own and publish the results of internal tests to Community ? 17:58:20 Answer - Currently there is no standard solution for all Cloud collection testing and publishing the results to Community 18:01:58 Question - Will collection owner becomes the owner of integration tests as well ? And also provide the platform for running the test cases and publishing the test cases 18:02:16 Answer - there is no current decision on this as well 18:02:34 #action Akasurde Ask Dylan about this ^^ 18:06:05 https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Aopenstack+label%3Aneeds_triage 18:09:25 mnaser is leading the OpenStack triage 18:09:29 #openfloor 18:14:13 Closing meeting since OpenStack Triage is going on 18:14:17 #endmeeting