02:03:23 #startmeeting APAC meeting 2010-12-05 02:03:23 Meeting started Sun Dec 5 02:03:23 2010 UTC. The chair is asmartgoat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:03:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:03:29 .fas dramsey 02:03:30 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 02:03:36 .fas bckurera 02:03:37 .fas tuanta 02:03:37 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 02:03:41 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 02:03:42 .chair dramsey azneita tuan FransicoD 02:03:46 .fas jbwillia 02:03:46 .fas asmartgoat 02:03:46 VileGent: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' 02:03:50 asmartgoat: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' 02:04:00 .fas FranciscoD 02:04:00 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 02:04:13 asmartgoat: my nick is tuanta 02:04:34 #chair dramsey azneita tuanta FranciscoD 02:04:34 Current chairs: FranciscoD asmartgoat azneita dramsey tuanta 02:04:39 thats the command :) 02:04:45 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2010-12-05#Agenda 02:04:55 asmartgoat, then #meetingname xxxx as well please 02:05:08 not sure how to, dramsey please? 02:05:21 type #meetingname APAC 02:05:23 nice to see many chairs :) 02:05:28 #meetingname APAC 02:05:28 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 02:05:28 heh :) 02:05:29 :D 02:05:35 #meetingname APAC 02:05:35 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 02:05:44 alright, moving on 02:05:48 #topic News from FAmSCo 02:05:57 any news 02:06:05 I dont :) 02:06:15 We have the famsco final report, here http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/report/famsco_final_report/ 02:06:29 we have the least amount of events per region 02:06:40 yes, that's the one thing I did notice 02:06:41 we should try to beef it up next year :) 02:07:14 the Q1 slot is supposed to be reserved for a FUDCon in India iirc 02:07:26 as the report, I see there are not many activities in APAC :( 02:07:47 but I'm not sure we have enough time to prepare for one, I did read someone enquiring about a FUDCon in Australia too iirc 02:07:52 * FranciscoD goes to hunt mailbox 02:08:12 yes, FranciscoD, thats correct 02:08:24 the total annual budget is $100k, I assume that we should get about 20k-25k 02:08:24 are those news from FAmSCo? 02:08:38 it's good for us to plan much more events here 02:08:45 we get $6K, but we use it well :) 02:08:50 alright, moving on? 02:09:04 we have a topic later about this guys 02:09:11 aye 02:09:12 +1 02:09:23 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events - (LCA + FAD APAC to be addressed later) 02:09:23 .fas azneita 02:09:23 azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' 02:09:42 FAD Brisbane i should say 02:09:53 +11 02:09:58 +1 02:09:58 er, +1 :D 02:10:06 is it planned ok? 02:10:32 anyone having any events to talk about 02:10:53 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 02:10:55 bckurera, hows your FAD SL going? 02:11:05 still planning 02:11:13 I have still followed up my series of event to bring Fedora Community to universities in Vietnam 02:11:14 I put a mail to the Am. list 02:11:22 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSSin_2010 02:11:36 last week I came to Thai Nguyen university 02:11:41 I'm not planning attending this one this year, but it will be *awesome* :) 02:11:45 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011 02:11:46 I am doing my biweekly Akihabara as well as Fedora 14 Release Party...like now 02:11:53 next week will be Hanoi National University 02:12:11 So i need more help on FAD SL 02:12:22 can anyone here help me 02:12:22 bckurera: fire away? 02:12:41 I put a mail but no sugession I got :( 02:12:44 AFD at Sri Lanka is good idea 02:12:55 tuan +1 02:12:56 * FranciscoD goes to check, must've missed the mail 02:13:04 I meant, FAD 02:13:21 Bckurera, there are 7 amb. including you, have you tried to contact them personally?[1] 02:13:23 FranciscoD please forward that mail to the India list 02:13:24 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#Sri_Lanka_.287.29 02:13:30 yup 02:13:34 bckurera: will do 02:13:48 3 Am. without me is always there with me planing the event 02:14:03 bckurera: you first need to plan what the schedule is, what you can do IMO 02:14:04 I cannot contact one Am. in SL 02:14:14 wow, there are a lot of Ambassadors in Sri Lanka 02:14:25 yes to plan all these I need a experience fellow in hand 02:14:40 only one (me) in Vietnam :) 02:14:40 that is why i need someone who knows about FAD 02:14:47 bckurera, are you sending e-mails to the Fedora India Mailing List, too? 02:14:59 so here someone can promis me to help :) 02:15:10 May be consult with Rahul, too 02:15:15 bckurera: why don't you try to contact to the local LUGs 02:15:15 bckurera: check up on the previous held FAD. It'll give you a good idea about what happens 02:15:23 +1 consult Rahul (mether) 02:15:49 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Pune_2010 02:15:52 I have enough resource person no matter about that :) 02:15:55 I was there at this one 02:16:26 bckurera: nah, mether has lots of experience with planning events etc., he'll know exactly what you can do, how to do it etc 02:16:35 +1 02:16:35 Another thing is media 02:16:41 #idea bckurera should contact to Rahul and local LUGs to get helps for preparing FAD in Sri Lanka https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011 02:16:48 +1 FranciscoD 02:16:50 bckurera im with you, im diving in head first with brisbane thing :) 02:16:52 +1 tuan 02:17:00 +1 FranciscoD 02:17:15 nice to hear asmartgoat 02:17:27 OK folks, relevant links of foss.in in Dec: 02:17:29 +1 Tuan 02:17:36 i ll finalize the schedule this week and mail you all 02:17:40 event page : #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSSin_2010 02:17:56 It's already been populated with miniconfs and such 02:18:05 #action Finalize the schedule for FAD SL 2011 in next week 02:18:10 do you think we can get support to come to FAD like that? 02:18:31 tuan, possibly one person to fly down and help bckurera :) 02:18:34 tuanta: you might, you'll have to speak to Comm Arch for that 02:18:54 its nice asmartgoat 02:18:58 +1 02:19:07 #action inquire about funding for Bckurera's FAD SL 02:19:09 media replication : http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/india/2010-November/004188.html 02:19:15 shall we move on? 02:19:27 work outs : #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/india/2010-December/004205.html 02:19:34 asmartgoat: one minute, more links coming :P 02:19:37 ok 02:19:40 :) 02:19:46 i'll wait for you :D 02:19:55 more links more informative 02:19:57 One major session as foss.in is creating a Fedora For Kids spin 02:20:08 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraForKids 02:20:31 we have a two IRC FADs before foss.in for packaging sprints 02:20:39 isnt that the objective of sugar on a stick? 02:20:48 more fedora-centric 02:20:54 ah, yes 02:20:58 ok 02:21:01 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraForKids/Package_Sprint 02:21:20 the packaging sprint is also meant to be a start up tutorial sort of thing for new comers 02:21:37 I like the wallpaper xD 02:21:44 #link http://suchakra.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/fed4kids.png 02:21:50 +1 02:22:00 if I get my system in time, I'll head the first day, and another colleague https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sagarun is heading the second day 02:22:09 all are invited :) 02:22:16 fedora for kids and women all good ideas 02:22:29 i'll/me looks up the timing 02:22:43 OK, EOF :) 02:22:44 is there anything called that 02:22:47 fedora for seniors :P 02:22:54 alright, shall we move on? 02:22:56 Fedora for women azenita? 02:23:09 Fedora for women azneita? 02:23:20 bckurera: there was something, I do recall, not sure if it's still around though 02:23:20 asmartgoat: you meant old people? 02:23:27 so i lost you bckurera :) 02:23:32 #topic FAmSCo Report 2010 02:23:35 yes tuan 02:23:38 #link http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/report/famsco_final_report/ 02:23:46 ahh i added this :) 02:23:48 go ahead bckurera? you wanted this topic? 02:23:55 do all check the report 02:23:55 my dad (70+) use Fedora also 02:24:07 +1 tuan :) 02:24:18 so here you all see less number of events in APAC 02:24:18 :) 02:24:27 we having a large number of Am. 02:24:32 true 02:24:34 in APAC region 02:24:38 True 02:24:46 but maybe they are inactive ones 02:24:49 we will be 2nd in the list 02:24:52 I see 02:24:54 * FranciscoD thinks he knows what bckurera is going to say 02:25:04 * azneita too 02:25:04 no i m not saying about that 02:25:08 I posted a mail 02:25:08 With closure of Fedora 14 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_release_events and APAC 02:25:08 since there are no more ones attend to this meeting 02:25:09 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY11_Q4_.28Dec._2010_-_Feb._2011.29_3 02:25:26 what we need to try is 02:25:28 Should we broaden our APAC meetings to China and India? 02:25:37 ask them to add those events tp the wiki 02:25:38 Different timing... 02:25:40 +1 02:25:46 +1 David 02:25:48 otherwise there were events help but 02:25:51 not counting 02:25:51 we should try more 02:26:01 AND we should try on more events 02:26:01 +1 Tuan 02:26:03 dramsey: +1, 02:26:24 we really should do something with the timing 02:26:27 will they like it? 02:26:37 we can try 02:26:50 lessen the barrier to entry 02:26:51 its is good if we can do? 02:27:00 bckurera: well the events count, the community just doesnt get to know about some of them :) 02:27:11 that's true too 02:27:22 but they are there 02:27:31 anyway updating the wiki is a work of a Am, 02:27:43 so all should do it if they had an event 02:27:45 don't we already have a "how to set up a fedora event" page which details the process? 02:27:48 no argument there 02:28:08 +1 Arkur 02:28:08 so please ask your all country Am. to update the wiki 02:28:14 if they hav any event 02:28:15 bckurera: i agree, quite a few blog etc. and forget to make reports and event pages for the wiki 02:28:15 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization 02:28:20 * asmartgoat wants someone to help translate Ambassadors/APAC 02:28:41 asmartgoat what are the lang? 02:28:41 Just the important pages 02:28:52 all we have at the moment is english 02:29:05 it's good, Vile 02:29:13 What we can easily do is that when we come across an event somewhere around, ping the event owner with the link saying please follow thet? 02:29:25 s/thet/that 02:29:28 Cool! 02:29:29 I organized a lot of Fedora events without reading it :) 02:29:31 shouldn't be much of a problem 02:29:33 if they not doin we can create the wiki and 02:29:33 but i want us to have some of these languages on the pag 02:29:37 make him the owner :) 02:29:40 tuanta: XD 02:29:52 so please look after that 02:29:58 bckurera: yes, but then folks will not put up pages and wait for someone else to 02:30:01 mandirin, hindi, vietnamese, japanese 02:30:03 I saw many events in dramsey 02:30:08 it is really good :) 02:30:09 English is fairly good for all, I think. no translations needed 02:30:16 we should get some people up in japane 02:30:17 even small events are ok 02:30:18 bckurera: so it's better to nag the owner to do it :P 02:30:19 japan* 02:30:45 ifif he is not doing we can initiate 02:30:57 asmartgoat i can Sinhalese :) 02:31:11 no report no reembursement 02:31:18 AND you all see its 18% our contribution to APAC meetings 02:31:25 VileGent: +1 02:31:31 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/Event_Questions 02:31:33 im happy for anyone to put their local language avaliable there 02:31:41 it really details out the process 02:31:57 bckurera: you could use that link I think to help set up your FAD 02:32:02 we should have reports, not for reimbursement, but for others who can have a similar event in the future 02:32:03 asmartgoat link please 02:32:24 yup report will help a lot 02:32:24 +1 tuan 02:32:25 bckurera: see the "what we're looking to undestand" part 02:32:36 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC 02:32:40 ok thanks Frans 02:32:44 umm let me find the link about translation 02:33:00 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraProject:Translating 02:33:10 tuanta, the way we do things in FAmNa is if you get support you try to blog daily at the event and file a event report as well 02:33:19 so 18% is the last number so we have to worry about this 02:33:22 #action local ambs with English Second Language please add languages to the APAC page :) 02:33:33 and that makes we geting low funding 02:34:00 thanks, VileGent 02:34:10 you all can see its only 6% 02:34:27 in funding so we have to look farwrd to increas this events 02:34:34 and do well as APAC 02:35:00 when there is a competition Fedora will be driven to highest possible 02:35:08 that is the last thing we need 02:35:31 the pune FAD isn't accounted for yet btw 02:35:36 SO WE need to do something to motivate out Am. 02:35:46 it is good if we can do it in country wise 02:36:06 alright, we are spending alot of time here, 02:36:14 ! 02:36:18 can we wrap this section up with action items 02:36:18 :) 02:36:21 are all agree with me? 02:36:25 azneita...? 02:36:28 +1 bckurera 02:36:32 aye, the thing to do is hold as many events as you can, and make sure people doing it are aware of the process 02:36:36 nice i m done 02:36:50 Good ideas... 02:36:58 yup make sure you take care of your oen country ppl 02:37:03 then it works fine 02:37:03 like VileGent said, no report, no reimbursement, that would really work ;) 02:37:13 * azneita can't type fast enough but i will write something about that later 02:37:20 alright 02:37:24 now moving on :) 02:37:29 but even though we had reports we are nt funded then :P 02:37:47 bckurera: because, you didn't follow the process and file tickets etc at the right time 02:37:50 that's changing bckurera 02:37:51 ;) 02:37:53 FranciscoD, quailty events not events for events sake 02:38:10 yes, you should follow the whole process 02:38:15 if there is no ticket it is nt counted as an event?? 02:38:16 VileGent: well, reimbursement requests don't all have to be accepted 02:38:29 bckurera: that's the process, which you *need* to follow 02:38:38 bckurera, no ticket = no reimbursemnt 02:38:43 you can't land up one fine day and say "I did an event, come one fund me!" 02:38:46 :) 02:38:54 no no i m worrying about counting as events 02:38:55 alright, thats settled :) 02:39:04 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements 02:39:04 nah, you dont need funding for it to count 02:39:07 if no ticket no counting as an event?? 02:39:10 no 02:39:17 if its added to event page 02:39:17 then it is ok 02:39:20 it counts :) 02:39:24 alright: 02:39:25 so try to do much events 02:39:32 aye, 02:39:33 and the same time add it to events :) 02:39:35 within boundaries 02:39:36 asmartgoat: next on agenda? 02:39:38 a good amount of quality events! 02:39:39 #topic FAD @ Brisbane and Linux.Conf.Au 02:39:46 * asmartgoat breaths 02:39:51 alright 02:39:59 azneita, where are you with flights, visa etc? 02:40:01 agenda revers? 02:40:13 max should be taking care of them 02:40:37 i was out of town for a while but that should be taken cared of early next week 02:40:51 alright 02:41:01 I've purchased my flights ($220~) and im looking for hotel 02:41:06 :) 02:41:27 $220 is fine ;) 02:41:37 best deal :) 02:41:48 what is the air line 02:41:49 also 02:41:52 maybe we can get every ambasadors in the same hotel 02:41:53 virgin blue :) 02:41:57 azneita: +1 02:42:13 azneita +1 02:42:21 I advised spevack of the same thing 02:42:30 make a "suggested hotels" list, it's easier to organize that way 02:42:37 we can do some really good work at the hotel 02:42:45 i was watching australian tv and apparently novotel have good rates, and their in the city. but novotel are expensive so take with pinch'o'salt :) 02:42:45 you know where everyone is, they can all come together etc., saves work 02:42:46 Good ideas! 02:42:46 make sure there are enuf room for all :) 02:42:51 #link http://novotel.com.au/qld 02:43:13 +1, you should stay in one hotel 02:43:18 oh, wrong link 02:43:25 #info WRONG LINK! this ones it 02:43:26 tuan, i thought you're coming 02:43:29 #link http://www.accorhotels.com/hotel-cms/gb/offers/offer-776.shtml 02:43:46 i too miss the event :( 02:44:29 #action book the hotel for LCA and FAD Brisbane attendees 02:44:36 i will be staying seperately for reasons already addressed :) 02:44:42 anyway 02:44:48 FAD LOCATION is booked! 02:44:48 noted luke 02:44:57 azneita, it's expensive to travel to Brisbane from Vietnam 02:45:00 we have the window bays 5 + 6 booked 02:45:20 how much tuanta? 02:45:26 tuan, partial subsidary? 02:45:38 its $1000 for me :) 02:46:17 hmm. that's the figure for me too 02:46:26 I thought that, never try to ask :) 02:46:30 i just asked 02:46:34 Try! 02:46:43 try airasia 02:47:06 #link http://airasia.com 02:47:27 #idea tuan and bckurera will try to get funding for LCA and FAD Brisbane 02:47:33 and some budget airlines 02:48:24 i'd really liketo get everybody in the same room, FranciscoD 02:48:38 :) 02:48:43 azneita take some photos ok :) 02:48:54 :) 02:48:58 lots of them 02:49:09 azneita <- you didnt add me in FB ;) yet 02:49:10 but we expect everybody to join us even on IRC 02:49:20 yes I ll 02:49:26 dramsey said he can't :( 02:49:39 when i have free time i ll be there in IRC 02:49:40 he'll figure out a way :) 02:50:02 everyone bring your laptop to the FAD :) 02:50:05 dramsey may be busy 02:50:18 thanks guys, we'll figure out a way to involve you 02:50:28 of course azneita 02:50:32 there's a channel for it #fedora-fad iirc 02:50:35 that is if you're denied funding 02:50:46 it has been pointed to me by VileGent 02:50:46 +1 02:50:47 apply tuan! :) 02:51:00 sure, I will 02:51:01 and yes, we'll be using that 02:51:12 bckurera, you too 02:51:17 have something that can be done over the IRC if possible, like a translating sprint or something? if possible that is 02:51:29 however i have lost my passport and new one should be applied :( 02:51:34 can we have you for packaging sprint? 02:51:36 maybe too much to pay upfront for tuan, maybe we can get a special circumstance for comm arch to pay directly? 02:51:45 azneita: what are the dates again please? 02:51:53 so its not so much of an upfront mess :) 02:51:54 poor you, bckurera :) 02:51:55 I ll miss you all 02:51:58 30 jan am i right 02:52:08 yes 02:52:27 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 02:52:31 BUT i ll be in IRC 02:52:32 Suggests something with Pierros in Europe or others in the U.S. 02:52:46 azneita: yup, it's a sunday, I can be there for a packaging sprint/work shop 02:52:58 #info 02:52:58 join with FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 on #fedora-fad 02:52:59 that's a wrap then :) 02:53:03 :) 02:53:04 when they do their state of fedora talk, it'll be 11am, we'll miss out :( 02:53:27 i'm sure we can hook up something 02:53:30