04:01:47 #startmeeting 04:01:47 Meeting started Sat Jan 7 04:01:47 2012 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:01:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:01:56 night 04:02:07 #meetingname APAC 04:02:07 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 04:02:08 good morning all 04:02:14 #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:02:23 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-01-07#Agenda 04:02:33 #chair bckurera tuanta udinnet 04:02:33 Current chairs: bckurera dramsey tuanta udinnet 04:02:37 .fas udinnet 04:02:38 udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' 04:02:40 .fas tuanta 04:02:42 .fas azneita 04:02:42 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:02:46 azneita: dona 'dona marie grace' - azneita '' 04:02:50 .fas dramsey 04:02:54 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:02:59 #chair azneita 04:02:59 Current chairs: azneita bckurera dramsey tuanta udinnet 04:03:12 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-01-07#Agenda 04:03:12 #chair netSys 04:03:12 Current chairs: azneita bckurera dramsey netSys tuanta udinnet 04:03:24 .fas FranciscoD 04:03:25 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 04:03:35 #chair FranciscoD 04:03:35 Current chairs: FranciscoD azneita bckurera dramsey netSys tuanta udinnet 04:03:45 :o 04:05:36 So... lets move to the news :) 04:07:35 .fas bckurera 04:07:36 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 04:08:02 i m on android 04:08:08 XD 04:08:13 so i may nt stable. busy with xams :-( 04:08:33 .fas izhar 04:08:34 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 04:09:20 should we move on the main topics? 04:09:27 good morning KageSenshi 04:09:32 yes 04:09:34 morning 04:09:34 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:09:35 :) 04:09:36 +1 04:09:46 we need to start practicing keeping our meetings time bound ;) 04:09:51 lets proceed shall we? 04:09:57 yep 04:10:10 * FranciscoD has seen how other teams do their meetings, its on the clock! 04:10:23 +1 04:10:32 * bckurera i m new to irc on android 04:11:09 well: 04:11:13 #topic Agenda 04:11:16 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-01-07#Agenda 04:11:22 yeah sharp on time. 04:11:32 Any news? 04:11:42 udinnet: hello 04:11:42 #topic news from FAmSCo 04:11:52 but it is good v can b little flexible too 04:11:58 aks: Greetings :) 04:12:01 fudcon na s hapenning next weekend 04:12:07 they've gone through the survey results 04:12:08 that's one 04:12:12 I am in a conference, my sessio is near. 04:12:23 sorry guys my connection was stuck, bckurera 04:12:28 I believe you all can lead the meeting 04:12:32 Me too, Tuan tuanta 04:12:33 bckurera: later, offtopic 04:12:33 udinnet aks nice to see ya 04:12:35 #chair aks 04:12:35 Current chairs: FranciscoD aks azneita bckurera dramsey netSys tuanta udinnet 04:12:41 #chair KageSenshi 04:12:41 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi aks azneita bckurera dramsey netSys tuanta udinnet 04:12:44 .fas aks.abhishek@gmail.com 04:12:45 aks: aks 'Abhishek Singh' 04:12:49 * harish i am online but busy with somethings in the house. will monitor. 04:12:59 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/242#comment:4 04:13:00 Hi Harish 04:13:17 #chair harish 04:13:17 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi aks azneita bckurera dramsey harish netSys tuanta udinnet 04:13:18 that;s the link to the famsco ticket looking at the survey results 04:13:28 +1 FranciscoD 04:13:29 * tuanta will follow up all after my talk 04:13:31 that's all i have about famsco at the moment 04:13:44 .fas netSys.midgoon@gmail.com 04:13:45 netSys: 'netSys.midgoon@gmail.com' Not Found! 04:13:50 * azneita tries to remember my gas password 04:13:54 * FranciscoD waits for anyone else to add on famsco 04:13:56 U_u 04:14:23 okay, next topic then? 04:14:28 next~ 04:14:36 yes please 04:14:39 #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting 04:14:40 sorry guys my connection s nt good today. pls carry on 04:14:48 http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-12-24/apac.2011-12-24-04.00.html 04:14:52 for reference 04:15:25 #1 ACTION: udinnet writes event report 04:15:27 udinnet: ^ 04:15:31 Ok 04:15:33 done? link? 04:16:02 yes 04:16:07 #link http://www.pageshack.com/computers/operating-systems/fedora-seminar-anuradhapura-2011 04:16:13 there you go :) 04:16:18 thanks udinnet 04:16:36 +1 04:16:45 Its also in planet fedora 04:16:48 +1 04:16:54 awesome :) 04:16:56 thanks udinnet 04:16:59 next: 04:17:02 * FranciscoD #112 bckurera ships swag soon as possible 04:17:15 Thanks all 04:17:38 bckurera: any update on this? 04:18:24 * udinnet think bckurera is having some problem with his mobile client 04:18:28 aye 04:18:37 no more action items left 04:18:40 #action check on -> ACTION: #112 bckurera ships swag soon as possible 04:18:50 ok 04:18:56 +1 04:19:00 azneita: there are ;) 04:19:02 next: 04:19:08 #3 ACTION: aks to update the ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/12 04:19:26 aks? 04:19:44 found them! 04:19:48 * FranciscoD waits on aks 04:20:00 I've already updated that I won't be applying for reimbursement 04:20:09 the report is prepared just need to post it 04:21:08 ah, may we know why aren't you applying for reimbursement aks ? 04:21:33 * FranciscoD waits on aks 04:21:57 is it import duties? 04:22:25 hum.. okay next: 04:22:25 FranciscoD: the cost were low, and besides due to time lack I could not prepare much media and promo materialsa 04:22:38 aks: ah, alright :) 04:22:46 it's a big thanks then :) 04:22:51 yep :) 04:22:53 next: 04:23:11 * FranciscoD harish to respond https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/13 04:23:13 closed, 200 f16 cds arrived a few days ago 04:23:23 closed fixed 04:23:34 +1 04:23:38 FranciscoD: I suggest that India be swag shipping point for Nepal 04:23:59 aks: could sure be, but i dont think we have any swag at the moment either XD 04:24:01 how do we close that ACTION? INFO? 04:24:13 yeah that will be even easy 04:24:16 let me co-cordinate with folks here and get back to you aks 04:24:21 and i already finished 50 of them .. passed to a person who want to give it to his college 04:24:22 FranciscoD: ok, I meant from next time 04:24:24 azneita: i dont think you can close actions :P 04:24:24 XD 04:24:38 aks: sure, I'll get back to you 04:24:59 #action FranciscoD find out about swag etc production in India to set up distribution point to Nepal etc. 04:25:05 okay, next: 04:25:08 * FranciscoD tuanta: submit a question on the ambassador mailing list to ask about Fedora 16 release dinners 04:25:57 I think tuanta is kind of busy today 04:25:58 tuanta is probably in a conference right now 04:26:04 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018735.html 04:26:08 he did mail the list 04:26:12 might be useful to revisit this for next meeting 04:26:18 sure 04:26:25 +1 azneita 04:26:41 #action -> revisit ACTION: tuanta: submit a question on the ambassador mailing list to ask about Fedora 16 release dinners 04:27:01 last action item: 04:27:05 * FranciscoD tuanta raise the chicken/egg situation in mentoring 04:27:10 was also on the list iirc 04:27:21 +1 azneita and FranciscoD 04:27:25 yup, quite long too 04:27:31 probably best to revisit next time when tuanta is more active? 04:27:36 +1 04:27:39 just so we have his input first hand? 04:27:42 alrighty 04:27:54 #action ->revisit ACTION: tuanta raise the chicken/egg situation in mentoring 04:28:11 #topic APAC Trac for regional support 04:28:21 i think we covered that already 04:28:24 two tickets, both have been taken care of 04:28:26 moving on 04:28:32 yup 04:28:35 #topic APAC events 04:28:52 our topic KageSenshi 04:29:04 * FranciscoD sits in the corner and listens :) 04:29:11 :) 04:29:13 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:APAC_2012_Bid_Malaysia 04:29:18 malaysian bid is almost done 04:29:32 final meeting to finalize will be at 10pm myt tuesday in #fedora-my 04:29:34 nice! 04:29:51 * azneita cowers in a corner 04:29:57 please give input if theres anything we might miss in the doc 04:30:19 +1 KageSenshi 04:30:28 awesome guys 04:30:34 proposed date is 18-20th may 04:30:37 #action all -> please give input on FUDCon 12 Malaysia bid document 04:30:55 for PH, we have a bit of trouble with the date 04:30:56 KageSenshi: that's kinda near, you're going to have a lot of work :P 04:31:03 +1 04:31:11 FranciscoD, thats the furthest i can put XD 04:31:16 heh 04:31:20 :) 04:31:26 FranciscoD, jsmith mentioned it need to be within 1st march-31st may 04:31:43 that killed our bid actually 04:31:52 we're looking at aug 04:31:58 yeah, i think that's the last period of our cycle i think 04:32:10 azneita: sad :( 04:32:34 azneita, :( 04:32:39 KageSenshi: is there anything else you'd like to add, or should I move to the next event on agenda? 04:32:43 we'll probably continue building our bid page but I'm personally for KageSenshi's bid 04:32:44 erm 04:32:54 another event -> FADKL is on 28th jan 04:33:06 same venue which will host fudcon .. 04:33:10 azneita: So why don't you try to move in to that time frame? 04:33:12 aha! nice ! 04:33:13 will be meeting up the volunteers that day 04:33:29 KageSenshi: is there an event page? for the logs? :) 04:33:35 udinnet, goes against global schedule 04:33:42 http://fedora.my/events/fadkl012012/ 04:33:52 thanks KageSenshi :) 04:34:00 per jsmith's announcemnet 04:34:01 please make it as a link 04:34:17 udinnet: it will automagically be done iirc 04:34:31 my bad 04:34:34 :) 04:34:39 KageSenshi: will you be useing the irc? I can be around that way :P 04:34:47 (at the FAD) 04:34:47 err darn i need to move that site to a larger jail . .disk full again .. >.< 04:34:53 XD 04:34:56 haha 04:35:09 anymore events? 04:35:15 * FranciscoD waits for people to jump in 04:35:20 not from ph now 04:35:31 but we'll cook up something to make up 04:35:39 * FranciscoD intends to have an unconference with fedora folks here one of the weekends 04:35:52 4gb jail is not good for production :P 04:35:56 a very informal hack session sort of, will keep ambassadors in the loop 04:36:03 azneita: +1 04:36:04 +1 04:36:06 KageSenshi: :P 04:36:13 I'm travelling Belihuloya sri lanka for a FOSS event. 04:36:19 In university of Sabaragamuwa 04:36:20 udinnet: link? 04:36:21 back again 04:36:41 link is Still on the way 04:36:47 I'll prepare it asap 04:36:50 alright :) 04:36:53 udinnet +1 04:37:01 * FranciscoD waits for more event related input 04:37:07 FranciscoD, usually we dont do on irc, but if you want to give a session, probably i can figure out something .. 04:37:29 KageSenshi: lol, I'll let you know :) 04:37:35 ok :) 04:37:40 geneerally the #fedora-fad channel just stays around for the fads 04:37:45 for people to chat etc. 04:37:50 ah 04:37:54 We planned to talk about Fedora Installation and also some networking related things 04:37:58 ok never knew about that channel 04:37:58 +1 for more FADs! 04:38:06 KageSenshi: XD 04:38:11 dramsey: +1 04:38:18 I am with KageSenshi on the #fedora-fad good information! 04:38:24 Welcome back bckurera 04:38:25 udinnet: if you need stuff for the event, you know the procedure :) 04:38:50 next topic then? 04:38:54 pls 04:38:58 #topic Status of F16 Release Parties 04:39:02 any updates? 04:39:05 bckurera already have some prepared media, we'll use them 04:39:08 FranciscoD: ok 04:39:29 FranciscoD on the event there will be a fedora session 04:39:31 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-01-07#Status_of_F16_Release_Parties 04:39:34 not a total fedora event 04:39:40 +1 04:39:49 bckurera: as long as there;s something on fedora, we're happy :) 04:39:50 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events 04:39:59 thank you dramsey :) 04:40:02 anyway will post an event report soon the event finishes 04:40:10 I strongly think that APAC did are great job for Release Parties! Well done everyone! 04:40:19 +1 bckurera 04:40:20 anyway udinnet and hasithajk is participating 04:40:25 unlucky me :( 04:40:27 +1 dramsey 04:40:32 +1 udinnet 04:40:50 +1 04:40:59 next: 04:41:02 bckurera having some exams in hit university 04:41:10 #topic Status of F17 Release Parties 04:41:26 I put the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events as a place holder like I did six months ago for Fedora 16 04:41:37 just need to have an idea in two months for our needs... 04:41:40 it's just to remind you that you can start preparing already :) 04:41:44 All from me 04:41:45 dramsey: +1 04:41:57 +1 FranciscoD 04:42:07 #info Begin preparing for F17 releaes parties so we can gather requirements 04:42:19 next 04:42:22 +1 04:42:22 #topic APAC plans for 2012(Suresh) 04:42:25 yeah apac trac can be used for requests 04:42:30 media plus budget 04:42:38 suresh isn't around today, is he? 04:42:43 * FranciscoD looks around 04:42:45 i think no 04:42:49 hrm 04:42:51 next: 04:43:02 Red Hat information training for Ambassadors 04:43:04 dramsey: ^ 04:43:06 :) 04:43:10 :P 04:43:18 #topic Red Hat information training for Ambassadors 04:43:23 We done a survey 04:43:23 XD 04:43:36 The 30 people who replied results are here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aplp6tv7mdWBdEVGRlJNY0dKQkp2bUJKbEJlVEtpOGc#gid=0 04:43:40 udinnet: spreadsheet link please :) 04:43:43 #link http://lk.fedoracommunity.org/fam_rh_certification/ 04:43:45 ah, there it is 04:44:16 Conversation is here 04:44:23 #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018758.html 04:44:42 Thank you, udinnet for the Survey. We adjusted some columns and I hope that along with Ankur's survey, we may have ideas for future #fedora-classroom as well as herlo SystemSG classese 04:44:53 +1 dramsey 04:44:56 Got lot ideas, right dramsey? 04:45:00 +1 dramsey 04:45:02 i think we need to focus more on classrooms 04:45:13 I'd really want to see at least *one* a week 04:45:14 I hope that next week more information on the next SystemSG EC2 for your growth if you want to "test drive 04:45:25 +1 for classrooms!!! 04:45:31 +1 04:45:37 remember, you do not have to be an expert 04:45:43 a classroom can really be beginner level 04:45:56 it neednt be too long either, even 20 minutes is great! 04:46:10 imo -> shorter, more the attendace ;) 04:46:14 +1 FranciscoD, the #fedora-classroom I am so happy to see happening and people need to reinforce basics that is cool. 04:46:22 +1 Shorter = availability 04:46:26 :D 04:46:29 20 min is a good time, we can scale up when needed 04:46:33 XD 04:46:46 #action all -> take classroom sessions to make them a regular occurence 04:46:53 +1 04:46:59 FranciscoD: +1 04:47:07 next then? 04:47:11 * FranciscoD looks at dramsey 04:47:12 +1 04:47:16 :D 04:47:19 #topic Ambassadors' survey followup 04:47:26 well, wev'e done this already 04:47:32 Great survey FranciscoD!!! :) 04:47:37 the good news (which I've already mentioned) is that famsco had a look at it 04:47:38 +1 04:47:42 :D 04:47:47 Getting ideas from the people helps everyone understand needs. 04:48:01 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/242#comment:4 04:48:02 Very true dramsey 04:48:04 is the trac link 04:48:07 with comments etc 04:48:12 please do go through it 04:48:19 so you know whats going on 04:48:22 thats all. 04:48:27 * tuanta back now :) 04:48:42 * udinnet already looked @ it 04:48:50 I will hold another survey in a few months, just as a channel to collect some feedback 04:49:03 * FranciscoD EOF 04:49:07 next: 04:49:16 #topic Open Floor :D 04:49:29 please go ahead :) 04:49:45 can we go back to Suresh's topic? 04:49:51 sure tuanta :) 04:49:52 he send me a private email 04:50:07 ok there is a ML for lk-users, if you want to read you can join lk-users@lists.fedoraproject.org 04:50:16 he wants us to discuss on his proposal 04:50:46 #topic APAC plans for 2012(Suresh) : round 2 04:50:52 then if there is no other issue, we can #agreed to push it on 04:51:15 Liked Suresh's ideas 04:51:16 :) 04:51:40 if there are more questions, ideas, comments, he will review the meeting logs then answer later 04:51:42 tuanta: link? I hadn't followed up on this 04:51:57 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Plans_2012 04:52:14 +1 Tuan tuanta 04:52:48 really good ideas from Suresh 04:52:57 I'd like to discuss the "proper fpo website point a little" 04:53:05 doesnt this fall under the websites team? 04:53:40 I'm not aware of the procedure of requesting changes to websites 04:53:58 my ticket for moving the "distribution" process to the main fpo website is still in queue 04:54:01 no responses 04:54:20 so, something as big as this will require approvals, designs, finally implementation 04:54:28 Suresh's ideas look good 04:54:31 Does this need #info #action FranciscoD? 04:54:32 i dont see a plan of action here 04:54:39 sure does dramsey 04:55:05 #action collect information on procedure to requrest website changes 04:55:22 #action draw up plan of action for suresh's idea "proper fpo website" 04:55:40 +1 04:55:42 +1 FranciscoD 04:55:57 +1 Suresh's ideas, should we discuss the four ideas? 04:56:11 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/73 04:56:26 ^ ticket to move distribution related pages to main fpo website 04:56:36 +1 FranciscoD 04:56:40 * FranciscoD likes suresh's ideas :) 04:56:50 i cant think of any issues there 04:57:03 but yes, we will need to start getting approvals for whatever needs them 04:57:19 * FranciscoD sits back in the corner 04:57:30 Good information FranciscoD, I like it! 04:58:11 XD 04:58:46 oh! and the "year end ambassador report" should be given top priority 04:58:55 * FranciscoD just scrolled down and bumped into it 04:59:06 Cool 04:59:12 that'll give us a funneled down view of our year-wide progress and problems 04:59:20 aye 04:59:25 +1 04:59:30 any more inputs then? 04:59:33 That is true.. also I like this idea too "Best Event/Party photo Competition" 04:59:36 tuanta: KageSenshi azneita ? 04:59:42 udinnet: +1 great idea :) 05:00:10 So again open floor? 05:00:18 no more input from me , at least for now :) 05:00:20 Sounds like Suresh's ideas will need direction and information in the future 05:00:24 Me, too 05:00:30 Next. 05:00:35 +1 05:00:49 and we've reached 1 hour :) 05:00:57 :) 05:01:03 FranciscoD, thank you for chairing! Happy New Years to everyone and together APAC, we will do some great things. ;) 05:01:10 :D 05:01:20 #topic open floor round 2 05:01:20 +1 05:01:29 if there's anything, please quickly bring it up 05:01:35 otherwise we can endmeeting :) 05:01:44 * FranciscoD waits 05:01:55 FranciscoD: nothing much from my side, need to follow up on Suresh's ideas 05:01:59 yeah.. And lastly please do visit lk.fedoracommunity.org and give some ideas to improve it 05:02:09 udinnet: sur 05:02:18 udinnet: s/sur/sure/ 05:02:19 #action -> all: follow up suresh's plans 05:02:29 countdown then 05:02:29 5 05:02:30 +1 05:02:36 See you all in two weeks1 05:02:41 4 05:02:41 s/1/! 05:02:49 3 05:02:57 2 05:03:07 1 05:03:13 0.5 05:03:20 0.25 05:03:25 0.125 05:03:26 ahahhaha 05:03:31 XD 05:03:34 #endmeeting