05:01:06 #startmeeting APAC Ambassador's bi-weekly meeting 21 Jul 2017 05:01:06 Meeting started Fri Jul 21 05:01:06 2017 UTC. The chair is pjp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:01:06 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:01:06 The meeting name has been set to 'apac_ambassador's_bi-weekly_meeting_21_jul_2017' 05:01:13 hello pjp :) 05:01:19 jonatoni: Hi, 05:01:36 #topic Roll call 05:01:46 .hello 05:01:46 pjp: (hello ) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 05:01:52 .hello pjp 05:01:53 pjp: pjp 'None' 05:02:17 .hello bex 05:02:18 bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' 05:02:18 .hello bex 05:02:20 bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' 05:02:25 .fas jonatoni 05:02:26 jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' 05:04:41 #chair bexelbie jonatoni 05:04:41 Current chairs: bexelbie jonatoni pjp 05:06:41 Are there any other APAC ambassadors in attendance? 05:08:32 * sumatro is here 05:08:48 praveenkumar: paragan skamath sumatro ^^ 05:10:02 pjp, sorry I have to give a presentation in 5 minutes so I will not be looking here. 05:10:07 bexelbie: jonatoni What time is it for you guys? Quite early AM? 05:10:11 according to the wiki there are 90 ambassadors in APAC 05:10:18 7am here :P 05:10:21 7am for me (which is early for me) 05:10:37 paragan: Okay 05:11:04 bexelbie: jonatoni ..boy! 05:11:36 bexelbie: jonatoni doesn't look like we have much attendance, 05:12:12 pjp, what country are you in? You're coded as unknown in the wiki 05:12:13 * pjp don't mean to keep you hanging for long early morning 05:12:15 do we have a specific agenda for today? 05:12:45 sumantrom: various budget/funding requests 05:13:00 #topic APAC budget requests -> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issues 05:13:14 bexelbie: India. 05:13:19 pjp ack :) 05:13:51 pjp, you should probably fix whatever has needs to be in your profile to get your locatoin fixed 05:13:53 in the wiki 05:14:04 bexelbie: Okay 05:15:04 You cannot judge by a single meeting, but I am concerned about APAC. I have not heard from your combined treasurer/card holder since 2 June. 05:15:46 I see 20 open tickets, of which at least 7 are current enough to be "immediate" in some sense 05:15:59 the other 13 require reading to determine if they are still real 05:16:10 bexelbie: That's another issue, Izhar holds the card, and hasn't been much responsive, maybe busy with work 05:16:22 but given the number of F24s in the titles, I suspect they are now instant-close 05:16:46 People get busy, it is understandable. However it isn't clear that APAC has met in a long time 05:16:52 bexelbie: Yes, those are older ones 05:17:08 and having a combined treasurer/card holder makes it hard for the region to have consistent information and reimbursements 05:17:19 Yep 05:17:45 It sounds like there are only 2 people here who would vote today 05:18:02 bexelbie: We did discuss about having another card in the region, but it couldn't be done for various reasons 05:18:02 and you all submitted the majority of the tickets 05:18:11 pjp, a second card is not the answer 05:18:25 bexelbie: Yes 05:18:36 when you have a two people doing hte work they can help each other and we have ways of getting reimbursemnts done with other cards, mine for example 05:19:04 bexelbie: Isn't that for regional expenses ? 05:19:32 pjp, the regional cards are primarily used for a specific regions expenses, however all regional cards can be used to help out other regions 05:19:37 I also have a card that can be used for the same 05:19:46 bexelbie: Okay 05:19:51 the idea is that if we run out of limit on a card or there is another problem, then other regions help each other out 05:19:59 APAC, like the other regions, is not a separate island 05:20:02 we are a single project 05:20:17 bexelbie: Yes, true. 05:20:50 * sumantrom concurs with bexelbie 05:21:08 jonatoni, I think it is time for FAmSCo to act and figure out how to work with APAC to get the ambassador structure working again here or to determine that the last 1.5 months is a seasonal anomaly 05:21:10 o/ 05:21:12 * skamath is late 05:21:14 .hello skamath 05:21:16 I am in my college and was finding a stable net to hop onto IRC 05:21:16 skamath: skamath 'Sachin S Kamath ' 05:21:36 hi 05:21:45 hi skamath 05:21:54 Hi bex! 05:22:00 sumantrom, o/ 05:22:12 Reading the scrollback 05:22:34 I think we are going to have to send all the tickets to FAmSCo to approve ... 05:22:59 bexelbie: Yes, I have opened a ticket for it, 05:23:14 It isn't exactly ethical to have only hte people who opened the tickets voting for them 05:23:19 :) 05:23:21 yes bexelbie, that's why I wanted to be part of this meeting to see how is the situation with APAC, and will talk with other FAmSCo members about this 05:23:28 or at least it looks bad 05:23:40 even if everyone acts ethically 05:24:41 bexelbie: Yes 05:25:00 jonatoni: that will be good 05:25:50 jonatoni, ty 05:26:17 bexelbie: Recently quite a few active ambassadors left due to relocation and/or other reasons, 05:26:27 pjp, a lot of them. 05:26:35 skamath: Yes 05:27:08 I pulled data of all the ambassadors and I could see a *lot* of inactive people. 05:27:19 There has not been much of guiding support for newer ones to get going.. 05:27:45 sankarshan is going a great job. I onboarded a couple of months back and he was really responsive. 05:27:47 sankarshan++ 05:27:47 skamath: Karma for morpheus changed to 1 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 05:27:59 pjp: I think its practically possible to record these bi-weekly meetings cz I never found a single log, so even if someone misses it , they can go through what happened https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/sresults/?group_id=apac&type=team needs updating, can you please do it? 05:28:18 Yes sankarshan has been a great mentor too. 05:28:22 sumantrom, If the meeting name is set, it will automatically be logged. 05:28:24 sankarshan++ 05:28:24 sumantrom: Karma for morpheus changed to 2 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 05:28:30 This is a situation where FAmSCo can help 05:28:53 sumantrom: Meeting are logged when they happen, 05:29:31 skamath: i see 2014 latest meeting logs. meetings happened after that .... I guess 05:29:35 For the meetings to aggregate, I think you need to set the same .meetingname everywhere 05:30:15 everywhere = for all the meetings 05:30:24 yes, meetbot's search and aggregation needs to be improved 05:30:32 I suspect it is just waiting on a patch :) 05:31:32 sumantrom, maybe the meetingname was not set or meetings did not happen at all 05:32:28 skamath: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_Asia_Pacific_(FAMAPAC) maybe we should spend some time updating the wikis. 05:33:05 the meetbot links ahref-ed with this wiki itself..... 05:34:16 Well, if the meetingname is set as apac after starting the meeting, it will automatically be logged over there 05:34:28 Was meeting name set for this meeting? My scrollback is limited 05:34:31 #topic apac 05:35:24 bexelbie, it should be #meetingname apac 05:35:26 bexelbie: thanks, now it will start logging. :) 05:35:45 bexelbie: It was set when the meeting started :) 05:35:49 sumantrom: ^^ 05:36:18 Idk why i'm getting a limited scrollback :/ 05:36:33 skamath: same here :\ 05:36:37 bexelbie jonatoni pjp skamath is there by anychance we cand do an weekly than an bi-weekly meeting?