04:01:32 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting APAC 2013 07 20
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04:01:42 <FranciscoD> #meetingname APAC meeting 2013-07-20
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04:01:48 <FranciscoD> #chair suresht tuanta kushal KageSenshi
04:01:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi kushal suresht tuanta
04:01:56 <FranciscoD> #topic Init process
04:01:58 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:01:59 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:02:01 <FranciscoD> #chair sentabi_
04:02:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi kushal sentabi_ suresht tuanta
04:02:03 <suresht> .fas suresht
04:02:04 <zodbot> suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' <sureshp8@gmail.com>
04:02:09 <kushal> .fas kushal
04:02:10 <zodbot> kushal: kush4l 'Kushal Sakurdeep' <kush4l@gmail.com> - kushal124 'Kushal Khandelwal' <kushal124@gmail.com> - kushalkaur 'Kushal Kaur Sardar' <skushalkaur@gmail.com> - kmrkushal 'kumar kushal' <kmr.kushal@gmail.com> - spallion 'kushal kant goyal' <krishan0103@gmail.com> - kushal119 'kushal J. Gujarati' <kushaljsk@gmail.com> - kushal 'Kushal Das' <kushaldas@gmail.com> - babai 'Kushal Das' <programmerkd@yahoo.co.in> - (1 more message)
04:02:14 <FranciscoD> .hellomynameis ankursinha
04:02:26 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com>
04:02:28 <kushal> I do the same mistake everytime :(
04:02:37 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal
04:02:38 * tuanta reading kushal info :)
04:02:39 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <kushaldas@gmail.com>
04:02:58 * FranciscoD waits for any one else
04:03:13 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi appears to be missing. Or hiding.
04:03:58 <FranciscoD> OK. Moving on.
04:04:23 <FranciscoD> Please use !,?,eof as usual.
04:04:37 <FranciscoD> #topic Announcements
04:04:48 <KageSenshi> more like, was finishing up this one anime episode ..
04:04:50 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar
04:04:51 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com>
04:05:01 <FranciscoD> .fas nanthang
04:05:02 <zodbot> FranciscoD: 'nanthang' Not Found!
04:05:04 <nangthang> .fas nangthang
04:05:05 <zodbot> nangthang: nangthang 'Thang Nguyen Nang' <thangnguyennang1988@gmail.com>
04:05:09 <nangthang> hi
04:05:10 <FranciscoD> ah
04:05:33 <FranciscoD> I don't think I have any announcements.
04:05:41 <FranciscoD> F20 is on. Work has already begun.
04:05:58 <FranciscoD> #info The docs team can use a lot of help right now, tracking the new features that will need to be documented.
04:06:45 <FranciscoD> #info The marketing team can also use quite a bit of help.
04:07:03 <FranciscoD> You know how to contact them, if you have queries, feel free to ask
04:07:04 <mribeirodantas> .fas mribeirodantas
04:07:04 <zodbot> mribeirodantas: mribeirodantas 'Marcel Ribeiro Dantas' <ribeirodantasdm@gmail.com>
04:07:05 <FranciscoD> eof
04:07:07 * mribeirodantas Brazil
04:07:27 <FranciscoD> tuanta: Any announcements from FAmSCo?
04:07:33 <tuanta> yes
04:07:35 <FranciscoD> Any announcements from folks going to Flock?
04:07:38 <FranciscoD> tuanta: go
04:07:49 <tuanta> the new FAmSCo term has been started
04:08:31 <tuanta> sesivany has been elected as FAmSCo chair again
04:08:45 <tuanta> and aeperezt was appointed to vice chair
04:09:10 <tuanta> I have myself started another new role: FAMA
04:09:51 <tuanta> regarding to Flock, It seems only me from APAC to attend.
04:09:55 <FranciscoD> tuanta: could you also please announce the thing about FADs? That link to the mail would be sufficient.
04:10:02 <tuanta> do you know anyone else?
04:10:05 <FranciscoD> I think kushal is attending too.
04:10:14 <FranciscoD> Not sure though
04:10:28 * FranciscoD looks at kushal
04:10:45 <tuanta> yes, about FADs, the funding process is a bit clearer
04:10:55 <kushal> FranciscoD, yes, I am going
04:11:18 <tuanta> you can see here:
04:11:23 <tuanta> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2013-July/001390.html
04:11:39 <FranciscoD> This is important information. Please bookmark that link.
04:11:41 <tuanta> if you want to organize a *real* FAD, please consider to read it
04:11:41 <tuanta> eof
04:11:45 <suresht> !
04:11:48 <FranciscoD> suresht: go
04:12:04 <suresht> before moveing on, we need to rememberour own Seth Vidal
04:12:06 <tuanta> great, kushal. Nice to see you again there :)
04:12:13 <suresht> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-July/003174.html
04:12:16 <kushal> tuanta, :)
04:12:35 <suresht> eof
04:12:45 <tuanta> +1 suresht
04:12:49 <FranciscoD> suresht: ++. We're all greatly saddened by what happened.
04:13:13 <FranciscoD> Personally, I had a tough time the next few days.
04:13:19 <FranciscoD> A few announcements about that:
04:13:30 <FranciscoD> #info the board is considering dedicating F20 to Seth
04:13:39 <KageSenshi> +1
04:13:41 <suresht> +1
04:13:52 <FranciscoD> #info there will probably be an event dedicated to Seth at Flock also. A cycling event from what I read on the fudcon-planning list.
04:14:04 <FranciscoD> If you're going to flock, please participate :)
04:14:17 <FranciscoD> eof
04:14:17 <tuanta> sure, FranciscoD
04:14:31 <FranciscoD> If there aren't any more announcements, I can move to the next topic
04:14:51 <tuanta> !
04:15:12 <FranciscoD> tuanta: go
04:15:31 <tuanta> we have not finished process to select a CC holder in APAC yet
04:15:43 <tuanta> will back to this topic in Open Floor
04:15:46 <tuanta> eof
04:16:10 <FranciscoD> tuanta: Won't that have to wait until Ruth and Robyn are done with flock? I think they're *pretty* busy with it.
04:16:38 <tuanta> lets continue this in Open Floor
04:16:41 <FranciscoD> Sure
04:16:44 * FranciscoD notes
04:16:49 <FranciscoD> Next topic then.
04:16:52 <tuanta> it's related to kuhsal
04:17:10 <tuanta> kushal, hope you will be until the end of the meeting
04:17:17 <FranciscoD> #topic Review actions from previous meeting
04:17:19 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-06-22#Review_action_items_from_last_meeting
04:17:34 <FranciscoD> There isn't much here.
04:17:41 <FranciscoD> udinnet isn't here.
04:18:04 <FranciscoD> I know KageSenshi hasn't bought the lightsabers yet.
04:18:11 <KageSenshi> -_-"
04:18:20 <FranciscoD> Buddhike isn't here so ticket 70 will not be discussed.
04:18:23 <KageSenshi> aint the verdict is .. creditcard for RH employee? xD ..
04:18:46 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: if you promise light sabers, I'll vote for you ;)
04:18:51 <KageSenshi> lol
04:18:52 <FranciscoD> okay, next topic then
04:19:16 <FranciscoD> #topic Trac tickets
04:19:19 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-06-22#Trac_tickets
04:19:27 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9
04:20:12 <FranciscoD> First: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/88 -> Release party in Hanoi, Vietnam
04:21:30 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F19_Hanoi
04:21:43 <tuanta> I myself no reason to stop it
04:21:45 <FranciscoD> Requirement is $75
04:21:57 <tuanta> yes, it's in budget
04:22:00 <FranciscoD> Looks good to me too.
04:22:24 <FranciscoD> nangthang: tuanta : will you need more funds for the swag bit?
04:22:50 <tuanta> for my event in Can Tho?
04:23:06 <FranciscoD> tuanta: for the release party
04:23:21 <FranciscoD> ah, the break up has it mentioned
04:23:32 <tuanta> the main organizer is nangthang
04:23:39 <nangthang> !
04:23:42 <FranciscoD> Sorry. The "Media and swag would be produced separately " part confused me.
04:23:42 <tuanta> I just support him
04:23:45 <FranciscoD> nangthang: go
04:24:17 <nangthang> yes, we're going to organize F19 release party next week
04:24:53 <tuanta> any questions for nangthang?
04:25:00 <FranciscoD> Not from me
04:25:01 <FranciscoD> +1
04:25:06 <tuanta> or go to vote?
04:25:44 <tuanta> nangthang: DVDs & lables: 300,000 VND  (about $15), is that enough?
04:25:47 <tuanta> do you need more?
04:26:10 <tuanta> how many DVD would be produced?
04:26:47 <tuanta> nangthang_: DVDs & lables: 300,000 VND  (about $15), is that enough? do you need more? how many DVD would be produced?
04:27:01 <nangthang_> sorry, i 've just been disconnected
04:27:32 <tuanta> nangthang_: please go with my questions!
04:27:59 <FranciscoD> (we do have two important issues to discuss in open floor)
04:28:06 <nangthang_> yes, I will produce about 50 DVDs including labels
04:28:30 <nangthang_> it costs about $15
04:29:01 <tuanta> any more questions?
04:29:03 <nangthang_> eof
04:29:15 <FranciscoD> Let's vote. It's clear and simple really.
04:29:17 <tuanta> please go to vote
04:29:21 <FranciscoD> +1
04:29:24 <tuanta> +1
04:29:28 <suresht> +1
04:29:38 <tuanta> ping kushal suresht
04:29:59 <tuanta> ping KageSenshi sentabi_
04:30:13 <KageSenshi> +1 here
04:30:21 <sentabi_> +1 :)
04:30:45 <FranciscoD> That's a +5/-0, so approved I guess
04:30:48 <tuanta> have we reached quorum, FranciscoD?
04:30:59 <tuanta> yes,+1 FranciscoD
04:31:09 <FranciscoD> #agreed Approved nangthang 's request for funds for a release party
04:31:21 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD update ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/88
04:31:23 <kushal> +1
04:31:27 <tuanta> :)
04:31:29 <kushal> sorry for being late
04:31:33 <nangthang> thanks :)
04:31:43 <tuanta> FranciscoD typing so fast :)
04:31:43 <FranciscoD> Next: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/84
04:31:54 <FranciscoD> "Travel Subsidies for Fedora 19 Release Party in Can Tho, Vietnam"
04:32:06 <tuanta> ah, my ticket
04:32:07 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F19_Cantho
04:32:19 <FranciscoD> Request: 22-$
04:32:23 <FranciscoD> er 220$
04:32:49 <FranciscoD> tuanta: banner is a generic banner, or one specific to the event?
04:32:56 <tuanta> I just got a confirmation from Can Tho university that they can only available from 12 of August
04:33:00 <FranciscoD> It's already been approved though..
04:33:24 <tuanta> so I need to have your approves for that date change
04:33:25 <FranciscoD> tuanta suggested it be re-discussed since the dates have changed.
04:33:48 <tuanta> I will travel to Can Tho on 24th of August
04:33:56 <tuanta> after Flock
04:34:12 <tuanta> (just back from Flock on about 14th of August)
04:34:21 <FranciscoD> tuanta: The event seems OK to me.
04:34:26 <tuanta> any questions?
04:34:29 <FranciscoD> Doesn't matter if it isnt' a release party.
04:34:36 <FranciscoD> Just call it a "Fedora event"
04:34:47 <FranciscoD> or a "Fedora meetup" as you suggest.
04:34:56 <tuanta> yes, it could be Release Party or whatever
04:35:14 <tuanta> just an opportunity fo spread Fedora more
04:35:19 <KageSenshi> no cool name anymore :(
04:35:24 <tuanta> to have more chances to get more contributors
04:35:41 <nangthang> great tuanta
04:35:47 <tuanta> KageSenshi, any suggestion?
04:35:52 <FranciscoD> Still got my +1. In fact, since it's going to be during school time now.
04:36:00 <KageSenshi> tuanta, sadly, still have no idea
04:36:03 <FranciscoD> it's going to be even better.
04:36:31 <tuanta> how about "Fedora Introduction @ Mekong Delta area"?
04:36:43 <vanhonit> i'm very happy fedora event organize in my hometown
04:36:53 <tuanta> hello vanhonit :)
04:37:11 <vanhonit> hello tuanta
04:37:14 <FranciscoD> .fas vanhonit
04:37:16 <zodbot> FranciscoD: vanhonit 'Hon Nguyen Van' <vanhonit@gmail.com>
04:37:23 <FranciscoD> #chair vanhonit
04:37:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi kushal sentabi_ suresht tuanta vanhonit
04:37:26 <tuanta> vanhonit is a new approved Ambassador
04:37:31 <FranciscoD> Ah! Great!
04:37:35 <tuanta> he would help me to organize that event
04:37:38 <vanhonit> i'm new Ambassador
04:37:56 <nangthang> welcome vanhonit
04:37:58 <FranciscoD> tuanta: do you want us to vote on your event again?
04:38:03 <tuanta> then I hope he can follow all up next times
04:38:20 <tuanta> FranciscoD: honestly, I am not sure
04:38:29 <tuanta> if it is necessary, please go
04:38:31 <FranciscoD> It's already approved.
04:38:49 <tuanta> then a comment for date change are enough?
04:38:54 <FranciscoD> #info If anyone has reservations about https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F19_Cantho, please comment on the ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/84
04:39:09 <FranciscoD> tuanta: yep.
04:39:18 <tuanta> ok, thanks!
04:39:40 <FranciscoD> Last, but doesn't need discussion: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/87
04:39:48 <FranciscoD> Please comment with your ideas
04:39:54 <FranciscoD> "Contents of a event box for APAC"
04:40:15 <tuanta> yes, please go and comment
04:40:29 <FranciscoD> Open floor then
04:40:35 <FranciscoD> #topic Open floor
04:40:44 <FranciscoD> tuanta: yours, about the cc
04:41:06 <tuanta> yes, my turn :)
04:41:19 <FranciscoD> tuanta: if you finish quickly, I'll want to clarify the "FAD" in Indonesia.
04:41:48 <tuanta> we got another stuck in selecting CC holder in APAC
04:42:00 <sentabi_> yups, please clarify that 'FAD' :) or we must use different name
04:42:17 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/333#comment:8
04:42:47 <tuanta> although we nominated KageSenshi
04:42:59 <tuanta> rsuehle and OSAS prefer a Red Hat employee
04:43:16 <FranciscoD> (it'll be more convenient with the paper work etc.)
04:43:39 <tuanta> after a short discussion, we nominate Shakthimaan
04:44:00 <tuanta> however, when I contacted to him, he refused
04:44:28 <tuanta> then introduce his colleague who also works at Red Hat
04:44:36 <tuanta> and he's Kushal
04:44:38 <tuanta> :)
04:44:51 <KageSenshi> +1
04:44:57 <FranciscoD> ++
04:44:58 <tuanta> now I hope to hear your ideas, comments, especially from kushal
04:45:05 <suresht> +1 great
04:45:06 <FranciscoD> I vote for 2 credit cards ;)
04:45:13 <tuanta> ping kushal
04:45:24 <tuanta> FranciscoD: I am all for that way :)
04:45:37 <FranciscoD> tuanta: you can have 2 cards linked to the same account, right?
04:45:50 <tuanta> I am not sure :)
04:46:17 <FranciscoD> I think kushal and mbuf will have to discuss this and decide how to go through with it.
04:46:32 <tuanta> ping kushal
04:46:39 <tuanta> are you available here?
04:46:59 <tuanta> lets continue to discuss this later vi email
04:47:03 <FranciscoD> tuanta: maybe add him to the ticket and request for comment?
04:47:05 <tuanta> s/vi/via
04:47:22 <tuanta> let me send him a personal email first
04:47:29 <FranciscoD> Ok. Great.
04:47:57 <tuanta> #action tuanta to send a personal email to invite kushal to take CC holder for APAC
04:48:06 <tuanta> next, please.
04:48:11 <FranciscoD> Ok.
04:48:36 <FranciscoD> This is a slightly more important issue. I'll lay out the facts. sentabi_ please correct me if I go wrong.
04:48:44 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Klaten,_Indonesia_2013
04:48:56 <FranciscoD> 1. The event is named a "FAD" but
04:49:08 <FranciscoD> a. The goal is to build an IT village
04:49:27 <FranciscoD> b. There is no or very little fedora related activity happening here
04:49:44 <FranciscoD> Therefore, in my view, it isn't a FAD at all.
04:49:58 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD
04:50:05 <FranciscoD> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD
04:50:24 <FranciscoD> 2. The event has already happened
04:50:32 <FranciscoD> It was not approved before hand.
04:50:40 <FranciscoD> The budget is 1500$
04:50:55 <suresht> IMO, there are few fedora related things... so this is not FAD..
04:51:25 <suresht> and budget is too high.
04:51:27 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: Does the fedora-indonesia community understand why this event should not have happened expecting fedora budget?
04:51:28 <suresht> eof
04:51:30 * KageSenshi nods
04:52:08 <sentabi_> first I'm not too clear about FAD since I never held/attend FAD before :)
04:52:12 <tuanta> suresht: IFAIS, they used Fedora only
04:52:23 * FranciscoD lets sentabi take the floor
04:52:39 <sentabi_> from the wiki FAD : ..... gather together in order to work on specific tasks related to the Fedora Project
04:53:31 <sentabi_> to held FAD, we must contribute to Fedora Project, such as coding related or something else?
04:53:32 <kushal> tuanta, sorry
04:53:54 <sentabi_> because I'm not clear about these 'specific task',
04:54:02 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: if you read the "how to organize a FAD", it specifies that a FAD is for contributors.
04:54:03 <tuanta> kushal: lets discuss later, after this topic
04:54:09 <kushal> ok
04:54:13 <FranciscoD> It's where you get contributors together and handle a specific task
04:54:17 <FranciscoD> for example: a docs sprint
04:54:19 <FranciscoD> or a packaging sprint
04:54:27 <FranciscoD> or an anaconda code hack
04:54:55 <tuanta> e.g. and infrastructure, ambassadors regional planning, etc
04:55:03 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: it's okay to have outsiders in it, but the main goal has to be something to do with Fedora
04:55:44 <FranciscoD> A FAD generally has a free walk in where others can come in and have a look and even participate if they are interested.
04:56:12 <sentabi_> 1.b : I don't think so, because we want to have more people contribute to Fedora project, but maybe not coding related,
04:56:30 <sentabi_> and we'll use Fedora for the OS
04:56:57 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: using fedora for the OS is good.
04:57:12 <FranciscoD> I just don't think it's worth 1500$ :/
04:57:15 <FranciscoD> To put it bluntly
04:57:25 <sentabi_> and we'll teach student using Fedora,
04:57:27 <tuanta> FAD is not specific for coding only, it's for all Fedora activities
04:57:38 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: all of that has been done by ambassadors for a long time
04:57:44 <sentabi_> for the budget I'm still not clear :) and we can change that later
04:57:48 <jsmith> If I might add a bit -- a FAD is not about *using* Fedora, a FAD is about *solving one particular problem* in Fedora
04:58:05 <FranciscoD> #chair jsmith
04:58:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi jsmith kushal sentabi_ suresht tuanta vanhonit
04:58:06 <tuanta> just not for encouraging to use Fedora
04:58:13 <jsmith> Planning for how to solve that problem, getting the right people in the right place to solve that problem, and then reporting on what was done
04:58:33 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: We'd like to support the event, but I cannot see you getting a 1500$ budget for this.
04:58:34 <jsmith> It's an *engineering* effort, not a recruiting effort
04:58:37 <sentabi_> jsmith, not just using fedora, but teach the student , and people from goverment how to use Fedora and tell them how to contribute to Fedora Project
04:58:43 <FranciscoD> Firstly, the event was not approved.
04:59:02 <tuanta> +1 jsmith. your last sentence clears all up
04:59:03 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: you're at the start of that chain. When you get to the contributing part, you do a FAD. Until then, you do simple ambassador events.
04:59:17 <sentabi_> FranciscoD, as I said that budget not fixed yet, I'll ask yogi (jurang dankal) about the budget.
04:59:26 <FranciscoD> the recruiting step stays as simple Fedora events, which have much smaller budgets
04:59:35 <FranciscoD> (which we readily approve, as you'll see above)
04:59:56 <sentabi_> as I said before, [11:41] <sentabi_> yups, please clarify that 'FAD' :) or we must use different name
05:00:01 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: you've seen the mails that we've had. Yogi assumes Fedora will reimburse 1500$.
05:00:07 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: it is definitely not a FAD
05:00:17 <suresht> sentabi_: it's seems your event page bit out of scope of fedora but we need more events and we have enought funding (but not too hight)so put more related to fedora things alike FranciscoD says...
05:00:17 <FranciscoD> And I doubt you'll get a 1500$ budget for this event either.
05:00:34 <tuanta> sentabi_: you can do many things to recruite more contributors, then wehn you have got enough ones and have some specific tasks need to get done, you start organizing a FAD
05:00:48 <FranciscoD> As a simple Fedora starter event, we try to find locations where stuff like internet are readily available
05:00:59 <tuanta> is that clear, sentabi_?
05:01:04 <kushal> most of the events we organize in India needs only travel budget for speakers, zero budget for anything else :)
05:01:08 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: the other issue is that the event happened *without* approval.
05:01:10 <FranciscoD> kushal: ++
05:01:16 <sentabi_> can I tell you again, if that budget not fixed yet, and let's not focus on the budget only
05:01:26 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: Yogi says it's already been spent.
05:01:40 <FranciscoD> That puts us in a very odd position, which is my primary concern.
05:02:19 <tuanta> sentabi_: maybe, it's not fixed, it should not be different too much between estimated cost ($1,500) and actual cost
05:02:27 <sentabi_> I'll confirm with him, because I don't know about the budget.
05:02:52 <sentabi_> and how about using another name for this 'FAD'???
05:03:03 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: it was a "Fedora setup event"
05:03:23 <kushal> ^^ which is supposed to be almost always free
05:03:26 <kushal> of cost
05:03:27 <sentabi_> please give suggestion, but not judge
05:03:58 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: the FAD/not FAD issue only comes up when you need to see how to reimburse the funds
05:04:04 <sentabi_> we open for suggestion, since I'm the only one who can attend this meeting
05:04:15 <FranciscoD> (since we can't reimburse for premier events)
05:04:40 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: What kind of suggestions are you looking for? The event has already happened. :/
05:05:04 <FranciscoD> The one suggestion is to start small.
05:05:23 <sentabi_> for the name of that event, for example
05:05:36 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: a "Fedora setup event"
05:05:41 <FranciscoD> It's a generic event.
05:05:45 <FranciscoD> There isn't a special name for it.
05:06:15 <tuanta> I have to go now
05:06:19 <sentabi_> yes, the event already happen and will end at July, 28
05:06:43 <sentabi_> Fedora setup event ? I dony think that name fit for the event
05:06:44 <tuanta> kushal, lets discuss on email
05:06:49 <kushal> tuanta, ok :)
05:06:52 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: Aye. We'll keep an eye on it. Please limit your expenditures. I cannot guarantee that oyu'll get all your money.
05:06:53 <nangthang> I have to go outside too
05:07:00 <sentabi_> because this not only about setting up fedora
05:07:15 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: IT set up at <> if you want.
05:07:34 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: issue being, Fedora cannot pay for setting up IT at places. Not in our scope.
05:08:00 <FranciscoD> lets wrap it up. We're 1hour+ already.
05:08:16 <sentabi_> oke then, I'm done.
05:08:16 <FranciscoD> sentabi_: We'll keep an eye on it, see how it goes.
05:08:24 <sentabi_> we'll talk in email
05:08:29 <FranciscoD> Sure.
05:08:35 <sentabi_> thanks
05:08:37 <sentabi_> :)
05:08:38 <FranciscoD> suresht: can you please send out the logs again :)
05:08:46 <suresht> FranciscoD: sure :)
05:09:07 <FranciscoD> I was goint to make vanhonit do it, but he left :/
05:09:14 <FranciscoD> Great. Thanks.
05:09:18 <FranciscoD> Thank you all for coming.
05:09:21 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting