16:01:37 <jbrooks> #startmeeting atomic_community
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16:01:37 <centbot> Meeting started Mon Sep 18 16:01:37 2017 UTC.  The chair is jbrooks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:01:48 <jbrooks> #topic roll call
16:01:51 <dustymabe> .hello dustymabe
16:01:52 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
16:01:53 <jbrooks> Who do we have?
16:01:58 <miabbott> .hello miabbott
16:01:59 <zodbot> miabbott: miabbott 'Micah Abbott' <miabbott@redhat.com>
16:02:01 <strigazi> .hello strigazi
16:02:05 <zodbot> strigazi: strigazi 'Spyros Trigazis' <strigazi@gmail.com>
16:03:11 <jbrooks> #chair dustymabe miabbott strigazi
16:03:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks miabbott strigazi
16:03:11 <centbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks miabbott strigazi
16:03:22 <jzb> .hellomynameis jzb
16:03:23 <zodbot> jzb: jzb 'Joe Brockmeier' <jzb@redhat.com>
16:03:52 <jbrooks> #chair jzb
16:03:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jzb miabbott strigazi
16:03:52 <centbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jzb miabbott strigazi
16:04:00 <jbrooks> We last met a month ago: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/atomic/2017-08-21/atomic_community.2017-08-21-16.03.html
16:04:05 <jlebon> .hello jlebon
16:04:06 <zodbot> jlebon: jlebon 'None' <jlebon@redhat.com>
16:04:24 <jbrooks> #chair jlebon
16:04:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jzb miabbott strigazi
16:04:24 <centbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jzb miabbott strigazi
16:04:42 <jbrooks> #topic action items
16:04:51 <jbrooks> jberkus to look into replacing docs.projectatomic.io/registry with directive to that standalone page
16:04:52 <jbrooks> jberkus to replace Registry docs on pa.io with standalone blog post
16:04:52 <jbrooks> whenry to file issue re skopeo/buildah registry issue
16:04:52 <jbrooks> kushal to check on vagrant image growth and report to list
16:05:24 <jbrooks> I don't know if those folks are here atm
16:06:11 <dustymabe> where's jberkus when you need him
16:06:37 <jbrooks> :) pto
16:06:57 <dustymabe> yeah i thought he was still going to try to make the meeting though
16:07:15 <jbrooks> Maybe he'll show up in a bit
16:07:21 <jbrooks> #topic CentOS Atomic Update
16:07:50 <jbrooks> We're close to releasing a new build that matches the 1708 centos release -- that's the one that matches 7.4
16:08:06 <jbrooks> The big addition is overlay storage
16:08:25 <jbrooks> There are images to test here: https://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/atomic/x86_64/Builds/20170915_01/
16:08:43 <jbrooks> Those include a signed ostree, and if all is well will probably be what we release
16:08:47 <dustymabe> jbrooks: +1
16:08:59 <jbrooks> The tree is at https://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/atomic/x86_64/repo/
16:09:33 <jbrooks> I don't think there were other topics submitted in advance do we have items for
16:09:38 <jbrooks> #topic Open Floor
16:09:46 <dustymabe> i have something
16:09:49 <jbrooks> shoot
16:10:07 <dustymabe> basically trying to bring broader awareness to this: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/333
16:10:12 <dustymabe> to see if anyone has any input
16:10:23 <dustymabe> subject: " removing gluster/ceph rpms from base atomic host"
16:11:09 <dustymabe> strigazi: jbrooks: how is the kuberenetes sig going ? https://pagure.io/atomic/kubernetes-sig ?
16:11:20 <strigazi> Could we have ceph-fuse in a system container?
16:11:35 <dustymabe> strigazi: maybe??
16:12:25 <jbrooks> strigazi, I need to update some of those issues -- I've been working on ansible that automates the system containers bit
16:13:15 <jzb> Would it be an option to layer the RPM on instead if system containers are a problem?
16:13:23 <jbrooks> dustymabe, I figure err on the side of keeping them in
16:13:40 <jzb> If we only think a small % of people are using w/gluster-fuse or whatever we could recommend layering the package instead of making it default.
16:13:42 <strigazi> And for remove-kube, IMO  if we streamline the contianer image builds and tags we are good
16:13:43 <jbrooks> Layering will work, but will probably require a reboot
16:13:49 <dustymabe> jzb: i believe package layering would be an option
16:13:55 <jzb> jbrooks: we have the experimental livefs stuff now
16:13:57 <dustymabe> it does require a reboot
16:14:05 <jzb> might as well have a good use case to road test it.
16:14:06 <dustymabe> jzb: yes, but livefs is experimental
16:14:08 <jbrooks> Yeah, it doesn't always work
16:14:24 <dustymabe> there are quite a few open issues against it
16:14:29 <jbrooks> I haven't tried specifically w/ those pkgs, but I know it doesn't work right w/ etcd
16:14:51 <walters> https://github.com/projectatomic/rpm-ostree/pull/996 will address a good percentage of issues
16:15:05 <jbrooks> #chair walters
16:15:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jzb miabbott strigazi walters
16:15:05 <centbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jzb miabbott strigazi walters
16:15:21 <walters> but there's a whole lot of UX work and design to do for sure
16:15:30 <jbrooks> cool
16:15:51 <dustymabe> i think a litmus test for this issue is "can openshift-ansible install a vanilla atomic host system and get gluster storage"
16:16:07 <jbrooks> strigazi, I don't think we can expect any labeling changes in the near term
16:16:10 <dustymabe> so basically i'm ok with layering/system containers
16:16:21 <jbrooks> strigazi, I mean the tagging
16:16:27 <strigazi> jbrooks yeap, got it
16:16:30 <dustymabe> but i think it would be good to have openshift-ansible know about and be able to apply those changes
16:16:45 <dustymabe> before we pull them out.
16:16:56 <dustymabe> i've got an ongoing discussion with some gluster guys too
16:17:04 <dustymabe> so maybe that will yield some different results
16:17:14 <dustymabe> does that seem reasonable?
16:17:14 <jzb> how much "weight" does the gluster-fuse pkg add?
16:17:28 <jzb> that would also be good to know if it's kb vs mb vs gb
16:17:57 <dustymabe> i suspect it is small, but I don't have the numbers
16:18:44 <jligon> .hello jligon
16:18:45 <zodbot> jligon: jligon 'Jeff Ligon' <jligon@redhat.com>
16:18:52 <jbrooks> #chair jligon
16:18:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jligon jzb miabbott strigazi walters
16:18:52 <centbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jligon jzb miabbott strigazi walters
16:19:15 <dustymabe> jzb: all packagse are less than 1M
16:19:18 <dustymabe> compressed
16:19:32 <jzb> ok
16:19:32 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal
16:19:33 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <mail@kushaldas.in>
16:19:38 <dustymabe> jzb: https://da.gd/AOysj
16:19:40 <jzb> so it's not the end of the world if we leave it in.
16:19:58 <dustymabe> jzb: it's definitely not a go binary :)
16:20:00 <jbrooks> #chair kushal
16:20:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jligon jzb kushal miabbott strigazi walters
16:20:00 <centbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jligon jzb kushal miabbott strigazi walters
16:20:03 <jzb> heh
16:21:26 <jbrooks> hey kushal
16:21:45 <jbrooks> I have an action item logged for you from a previous meeting: to check on vagrant image growth and report to list
16:21:51 <jbrooks> Did you check that out?
16:22:26 <kushal> jbrooks, I checked and I think it was done before F26, something I missed.
16:22:44 <kushal> jbrooks, it has now increased around 20MB
16:22:48 <kushal> so not much.
16:22:53 <kushal> I think my memory failed me.
16:23:50 <jbrooks> OK, other items for this week?
16:25:45 <dustymabe> shutitdown :)
16:26:07 <jbrooks> #endmeeting